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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

Franstel said:
What do you think about giving a Alive key to people such as the Hassans or the Heyan Kyo cast that possess the same powers as their servant self but without the servant physiology and thus without invulnerability ?
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Actually the Heian Kyo people are above servant level. The Raikou and Shuten in the Seven Swordmasters of Shimosa were confident they would lose to Yagyu unless they were living. Do note, the Seven Swordmasters are already stronger than servants.

Edit: They would currently be Low 6-B.
 
Mageman460 said:
Actually the Heian Kyo people are above servant level. The Raikou and Shuten in the Seven Swordmasters of Shimosa were confident they would lose to Yagyu unless they were living. Do note, the Seven Swordmasters are already stronger than servants.

Edit: They would currently be Low 6-B.
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They were shown struggling against servants even in a 5 vs 2.
Also why are the Seven Swordmasters even Low 6B in the first place that justification, feel very weak since a boost in strenght is not necessarly a jump in tier + the Musashi couldn't kill them without muramasa's sword come from the fact that Douman hided their spirit core outside their bodies or something like that,
 
Franstel said:
They were shown struggling against servants even in a 5 vs 2.
Also why are the Seven Swordmasters even Low 6B in the first place that justification, feel very weak since a boost in strenght is not necessarly a jump in tier + the Musashi couldn't kill them without muramasa's sword come from the fact that Douman hided their spirit core outside their bodies or something like that,
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You mean when they were toying with Musashi and then Yagyu 1v1d Inshun to show off his regen and then corrupt him? Inshun is also pretty much stated to have the greatest skill when it comes to a spear, even greater than the current Musashi's sword skill and likely even that Yagyu's sword skill. Or the 2v2 Muramasa and Musashi vs Rider/Berserker. When Musashi was growing throughout the singularity and Muramasa had already blitzed and one shot Inshun. Muramasa is actually built different.
The summoning is directly stated to be greater than that of regular servants. If you read the scan attached to the statement about Muramasa's sword, you would see it was an actual statement about how Raikou easily parried Musashi and Musashi believed she had no chance against any of them at that point because they were just stronger than her. Also, they should just be Low 6-B, iirc, not sure why they're Low 6-B+. Pretty sure it was just a mistake in editing. Base Servants are currently 962 Gigatons, which is a 1.04x difference to Low 6-B, so everything stronger than Servants just upscale to baseline Low 6-B.
 
Mageman460 said:
You mean when they were toying with Musashi and then Yagyu 1v1d Inshun to show off his regen and then corrupt him? Inshun is also pretty much stated to have the greatest skill when it comes to a spear, even greater than the current Musashi's sword skill and likely even that Yagyu's sword skill. Or the 2v2 Muramasa and Musashi vs Rider/Berserker. When Musashi was growing throughout the singularity and Muramasa had already blitzed and one shot Inshun. Muramasa is actually built different.
The summoning is directly stated to be greater than that of regular servants. If you read the scan attached to the statement about Muramasa's sword, you would see it was an actual statement about how Raikou easily parried Musashi and Musashi believed she had no chance against any of them at that point because they were just stronger than her. Also, they should just be Low 6-B, iirc, not sure why they're Low 6-B+. Pretty sure it was just a mistake in editing. Base Servants are currently 962 Gigatons, which is a 1.04x difference to Low 6-B, so everything stronger than Servants just upscale to baseline Low 6-B.
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No I'm talking in Heyan Kyo in the servant boss rush part.
An Alliance of Kintoki, Danzou, Raikou, Nursery Rhyme, Tsunaand Ritsuka barely managed to beat Touta and Rapthalia's plagiat (I forgot her name). They had to bait them into using their NP and strike them while their guard were down.
 
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Franstel said:
No I'm talking in Heyan Kyo in the servant boss rush part.
An Alliance of Kintoki, Danzou, Raikou, Nursery Rhyme, Tsunaand Ritsuka barely managed to beat Touta and Rapthalia's plagiat (I forgot her name). They had to bait them into using their NP and strike them while their guard were down.
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AH my bad. You were referring to the summonings that were even better than the Seven Heroic Swordmasters. So uh yeah, not really.
 
Mageman460 said:
AH my bad. You were referring to the summonings that were even better than the Seven Heroic Swordmasters. So uh yeah, not really.
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Can't seem to find where it ever have been stated but i'll just believe you since I don't want to launch a pointless debate. The Heyan Kyo cast was nothing than an example in the first place.
 
Tdjwo said:
Saber Shiki is not the root
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People in 「FateGO」
The woman whom we’ve gotten a glimpse of during the irregular singularity, the Boundary.

She wears a bright clear kimono with graceful gesture, showing discernment, but full of affection. This defines her routine even in abnormal situations.

Due to the uncertainty of her own existence, she wishes to remain uninvolved in strange cases, even when she knows the details about them.

A distinguished individual one would not normally meet. But— in the opposite case, it would be on a snowy day, while everyone is asleep.

She’s the same person as Shiki Ryougi, the girl who wears a jacket over her kimono. However, their personalities are different.

If Shiki Ryougi is the girl known as 「Shiki」, then this person is the woman known as「Shiki Ryougi」

The personality of the body itself, embodying 「 」 that represents the beginning.

She slumbers within Shiki from her birth to her death.

Shiki can't perceive 「Shiki Ryougi」, and 「Shiki Ryougi」 will never take Shiki's place.
 
Hossein28e7 said:


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People in 「FateGO」
The woman whom we’ve gotten a glimpse of during the irregular singularity, the Boundary.

She wears a bright clear kimono with graceful gesture, showing discernment, but full of affection. This defines her routine even in abnormal situations.

Due to the uncertainty of her own existence, she wishes to remain uninvolved in strange cases, even when she knows the details about them.

A distinguished individual one would not normally meet. But— in the opposite case, it would be on a snowy day, while everyone is asleep.

She’s the same person as Shiki Ryougi, the girl who wears a jacket over her kimono. However, their personalities are different.

If Shiki Ryougi is the girl known as 「Shiki」, then this person is the woman known as「Shiki Ryougi」

The personality of the body itself, embodying 「 」 that represents the beginning.

She slumbers within Shiki from her birth to her death.

Shiki can't perceive 「Shiki Ryougi」, and 「Shiki Ryougi」 will never take Shiki's place.
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I think I should have worded it differently. Saber Shiki is a nerfed version of Void Shiki/root because of the servant container.
 
Hossein28e7 said:
Why? Where is it said?
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It's not specifically mentioned for Shiki. But we know servant containers have limits based on Enkidu's statements regarding Gods and their nerfed servant containers compared to their original. The same applies for Saber Shiki.
 
illimitableuntildeath.fandom.com

Mystic Eyes of Death Perception (Innate Skill)

Can be able to see the thing 『Death』, 『Death』 this type the form receive that concept that does not have the entity by visual message, manifests to be similar to doodle 『Line』, when 『Line』 of object shut off, the shut off part will be coursed the end directly, creates death that is unable to...
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xianxia dude got MEODP lol
 
Grand_Saver_Ritsuka said:
illimitableuntildeath.fandom.com

Mystic Eyes of Death Perception (Innate Skill)

Can be able to see the thing 『Death』, 『Death』 this type the form receive that concept that does not have the entity by visual message, manifests to be similar to doodle 『Line』, when 『Line』 of object shut off, the shut off part will be coursed the end directly, creates death that is unable to...
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xianxia dude got MEODP lol
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I feel like this might be copyright infringement.
 
Tdjwo said:
What in the copyright fanfic is that? Copied the name and ability word for word, bar for bar.
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Have you seen this?
I see. ...It's a difficult concept to put into words," Glenn said.

In Glenn's mind, memories of a mystical experience, where he had glimpsed a fragment of it at the end of his soul's journey spanning billions of light-years, involuntarily resurfaced.

Yes. It’s one and all. All and one.

It governs, grasps, and rules over the wisdom of all things. It is the first soul born in this infinite multiverse world—'the Origin of One.'

At the center of every branching world and every dimensional tree in this world, it is the source of all beings and the singularity.

Therefore, it contains all information of this world and possesses the power of successive multivariate omnipotence that makes up everything in this world.

Some call it 'God.'

Some call it 'the Root.'

Some call it 'the Truth.'

Some call it 'the Overflowing World.'

Some call it 'Heaven.'

Or perhaps some call it 'the Almighty Wish Fulfilling Device.' There are also those who consider it nothing more than a 'gigantic recording medium.'

That is the Akashic Records—the ultimate destination of wisdom pursued relentlessly by all sorcerers.

That, indeed, was the true purpose of the Heavenly Wisdom Research Society, the Great Masters, and the Demon Lord.
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Aoko

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There are allegedly only five magicians in the world, and she is the latest and lowest-ranked of them. This formerly normal high-schooler lived her life uninvolved with the world of magecraft until middle school. This changed one day when she was suddenly arranged to inherit her grandfather's legacy. She's been at fate's mercy every single day, but her courageous and strongly competitive personality proved fortunate, allowing her to live a free and enjoyable magician life.

Bond 1

  • Height / Weight: 163 cm / 51 kg
  • Source: Mahoutsukai no Yoru
  • Region: Japan
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Attribute: Man (regular form), Star (super form)
  • Gender: Female
A caring woman who sticks to her beliefs to the bitter end. A girl who looks special but can be found anywhere.

Bond 2

The second daughter of the Aozakis, a family of unorthodox mages in Misaki city. Since her sister was arranged to be their heir, she spent her life without magecraft until age 15. Aoko had no problems with her position, feeling lucky that all the difficult stuff was shoved to her sister's side. Although she was raised in a warm household with caring parents, since she was close to her magician grandfather, she knew a mage's philosophies, if nothing else.

During Aoko's second year of middle school, her sister went missing, so when she was entering high school, she was declared heir to the Aozakis' magic and sent to live in the house of the daughter of the Kuonjis, a family of close friends to the Aozakis. She butted heads with Alice, the house's owner, multiple times, but after many twists and turns, they became partners.

During her process of learning basic mage skills under Alice's tutelage (her grandfather had already drilled the philosophies into her, so Alice was not involved in that part), the two repelled any underhanded mages trying to steal the lands they controlled.

She served as student council president at her high school and was tasked with looking after the recently transferred Soujuurou, giving her daily headaches.

Bond 3

  • Personality
Logical and overbearing. A tyrannically good-natured woman who strives for perfection in everything she does. The cold type of hero of justice, who appreciates the strong and is fed up with the weak but can't bring herself to forsake them.

She's cheerful and humorous but very thorough when she gets serious. Merciless. Although she views good sense and social etiquette as the correct rules of society, now that she is a mage, she has to commit to their morals, so what she uses for her personal choices follows a case-by-case basis. Aoko weighs both on a scale and picks what she gives more relative importance. In general, she tries to prioritize her life choices over the choices of others... Keyword: tries. If she could actually do it, she'd have already been welcomed into the group by the other magicians.

She's very curious, to the point that she's always trying to pick up on details on other people's conversations and actions. Even when she's not interested, she will listen. She's generally a good listener no matter who is talking. Perhaps due to her iron-wall personality, she's not good at probing others' vulnerabilities.

She's very fettered to logic and reason, with a tendency to overcomplicate her thoughts, but ultimately, she does what she believes is right. Somebody once told her that everything she does unintentionally becomes a benefit to the world and its people, words that didn't come off as a quip or a compliment, but she treasures it as a minor source of pride.

Bond 4

  • Territory Creation: E
She can't keep a satisfactory workshop or a penny in her bank account.

  • Item Crafting: E
Life hack: nab anything you need from your sister.

  • Magician: C
One of the very few still existing magicians. Has resistances against magical energy, fate (insta-death), time, and purge.

  • Magical Bullet Expansion: EX
A Skill that only manifests after Aoko uses her Noble Phantasm and transforms.

  • Magic Circuits (Rotation): A
Special Magic Circuits that enable her to demonstrate Fifth Magic. They never run out of magical energy. Considered one of the factors necessary to depart the planet.

  • Magical Bullet Loading: B
Simple magecraft that utilizes the magical energy generated within her body (od) as bullets. For most forms of magecraft, Aoko is average or below, but when it comes to magical bullets, she's unsurpassable in terms of speed, precision, and destructive force. The magical bullet champion of the world of magecraft.

  • Once Again In This Age: EX
The magic of youth. A powerful mental buff fueled by the wishes, hopes, and dreams everyone had in their infancy. Adds Protagonist Status to one member of the party. When used on herself, it causes an "It's coming back to me!" moment, and when used on others, it makes her a sensei that points lost boys and girls to their future.

Bond 5

  • Life Outside the Domain: E
She's not a lifeform from another planet, but a star (that rotates in the opposite direction) follows her around and she doesn't know what she did to accomplish that.

  • Magic Circuits (Rotation): B
A Skill that manifests when she becomes Super Aoko. The Magic Circuits (Rotation) Skill she had pre-transformation turned into a Passive Skill. It has lost a bit of output.

  • Magic Circuits (Revolution): EX
Superhuman Magic Circuits said to manifest only after she demonstrates Fifth Magic. They generate colossal amounts of magical energy but others are completely incapable of comprehending what kind of spell made them like that and what theoretical basis they came from. Aoko herself is just as clueless. Meanwhile, Zelretch, the user of the Second Magic, figured out the gist of it on his first glance at Super Aoko.

  • In Search of the Milky Way: EX
A crafty strategy only Super Aoko can do, where she shuts out outside interference by overlapping time migration effects from 0.1 seconds in the past and 0.1 seconds in the future. Grants herself invincibility (which her Passive Skill turns into anti-purge defense. Really dirty trick.) and loads 6 magical bullets.

  • First Star: C
Hither and thither.
Beginning and ending.
May this signal reach
the one and only cosmos
shining above.
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Bond 5 + event completion

TBA
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Shizuki Soujuurou's profile​


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A country boy who left his life in the remote mountains and descended into the modern era. A metaphorical time traveler. While trying to acclimate to the excesses of the city despite his ordinary background and unsophisticated disposition, this unlucky part-timer came across a battle between mages.
“Well, magecraft is not that different from the things in the city,” he thought.
That’s the mindset of the man who came to live in the same house as a magician and a witch. One may well call his optimism unrelenting.
Bond 1
  • Height / Weight: 172cm / 61kg
  • Source: Mahoutsukai no Yoru
  • Region: Japan
  • Alignment: True Neutral
  • Attribute: Man
  • Gender: Male
A defender of the risk-free tactic of keeping quiet about his beliefs. Not special but not exactly normal either.
Bond 2
An inconspicuous facilitator. An ordinary man who managed to keep away from mage-leaning subjects despite living in the same house as Aoko and Alice. Impressive layman. Perhaps due to his upbringing maxed out on the nature aspect, he feels like a fish out of the world despite not having any particularly unique characteristics.
He seems to lack an identity…but in reality, he has a solid ego that he simply doesn’t care about. He doesn’t place himself as the most important person.
His strong point is getting along with almost anyone due to having a friendly personality despite not talking much. He’s good at regular, mundane exercises that test his physical capabilities.
Bond 3
  • Personality
Although the definition of normality is a very subjective topic, everyone considers his personality normal by their inconsistent standards. He disapproves of inequality, preaches harmony, wishes every day to be enjoyable, and has honest and ordinary standards of good and evil. He’s unassertive, lacking in desire for attention, and not very sociable. Nevertheless, he’s not decadent or misanthropic either. He's passive but responds in good faith when someone does interact with him. The reason why the quiet Soujuurou has so many friends is probably that as a listener in casual conversation, he’s more sincere about the subject than the speaker. Because Soujuurou doesn’t know how to interact with people, his escape valve is trying to take everything seriously. This never gets uncomfortable because he has zero will to pressure anyone. His serious, honest, and weirdly cozy presence propels the speaker in a positive direction, resulting in people liking him.
People meeting him for the first time tend to appraise him as the very picture of harmlessness, and Aoko makes an appalled face every time she hears this comment.
Bond 4
  • Presence Concealment: A
He’s not exactly trying to hide, but he’s so inconspicuous that people genuinely never see him approaching. It’s impressive how he blends in wherever he is.
  • Knowledge of the Sowa: C
Form is emptiness and emptiness is form. His lifestyle is spontaneously evasive, even though no one really taught him to be like this.
  • Good Luck Chant: EX
Basic hypnosis magecraft cast by someone somewhere somewhen to undo his sense of fear. It doesn’t have any effect because the hypnosis failed, but that was a significant interaction nonetheless. This Skill name is fake. The proper name of the Skill was Weapon Concealment. Negates fear, confusion, and Skill seal.
  • Mushi Fusatsu Henro: A
Buddhist vow meaning “In my pilgrimage, I shall see no death and commit no killing.”1
Treat thy neighbor's death as nothing, and kill not thine own life until thy mission be fulfilled. The bare minimum requirement needed to live in the harsh nature away from civilization. His risk avoidance and optimization of routes to complete tasks were elevated into an everyday habit.
  • Shakutenrin Jizai Zaifuza: A
Buddhist vow meaning “I shall borrow the wheel of Chakravartin to take lotus position wherever.”1
A surge in mental strength at moments of peril. A boost to his abilities caused by mental activity, specifically the vigor and willpower that comes with having a defined objective. The ultimate vital principle—the “I must accomplish this before I die”—is something normally utilized only once, and he’s the living example of what happens when that’s utilized constantly. A further point of note: this whittles away his invisible force of fortuity, but for those capable of accepting being discarded after being used, what can’t be seen might as well not exist.
Bond 5
Coordi■■■■s unknown - Evil spirit ■■■■ing
Rank: Ｃ＋＋＋Type: Anti-World Noble Phantasm
Range: UnmeasurableMax. Targets: 1 person
Lands one unavoidable blow. The more unfair nonsense there is to the opponent’s defenses, the more the unrealistic attack they suffer becomes impossible to perceive/adapt/decipher… Allegedly. The only ones who know what happened and how it happened are the man driven to that choice and his owner.
Bond 5 + event completion
TBA
Bond CE
r/grandorder - Secret recipe for a family meal
Secret recipe for a family meal
An original recipe for an individual dish. Every man living alone develops at least one unique superpower like this.
It started as the staff meal at the Chinese restaurant Soujuurou worked at, but it later evolved into his specialité. It's fried udon with a lot of additional ingredients, but thanks to its thorough seasoning, the flavor is rich and consistent, packing enough of a hidden punch to knock out his two roommates who depended on the high quality of the ingredients to make a decent meal. On a day without any special occasion, he naturally and smoothly offers you this proof of affection.
Translation note
  1. All three vows used as the names of Soujuurou's three active Skills are completely made up by Nasu. The vow used as the name of his not-yet-explained 3rd Skill is Hyakkotsu Bansei Sentou Shugen, meaning "I shall train in a thousand pagodas for a million years to learn a hundred tricks".
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Adult Soujyuro!
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