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Same thing happened to me in December when I needed to get a new phone. I guess FGO wasn’t compatible with it so I tried reinstalling it without realizing I need a code to get my save data back
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Save the code is the first thing one need to do when begin to play, it's literally one of the first things I searched at first.
Try to contact the support of na to recover it. https://fate-go.us/sp/
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Well I deleted it in a fit of rage so unfortunately I wasnt thinking clearly.
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Yes, I have come to realise this 
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You still can recover it, just contact the support of na, search for a guide preferably.
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damn bro, i hope all those waifus/husbandos return to you...Yes, I have come to realise this
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I was sad because it was the first time in a lot of time that I basically didn't was getting anything golden, it was like 4 CE SR in around 100 SQ, but finally the glorious rainbow come, already maxed Morgan (well, not completely because of the new material so the skills are at 8), after wake up when the sun is above I'm gonna try a bit more for "Gawain".
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The amount of Muramasa x Castoria in this chapter is real i can't stop giggling
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high tiers get a upgrade? can anyone give me thread link?
Also from Arjuna alter profile in vsb:
"before absorbing the rest of the pantheon consisting of 330 million gods"
as far as i remember those number was were never mention in LB4, and in real life Hindu pantheon didn't have 330 million gods, it's 33 Koti, where Koti means category which was mistranslation as crore and 1 crore= 10 million, Hindu pantheon have hundreds of gods but not 330million
Also from Arjuna alter profile in vsb:
"before absorbing the rest of the pantheon consisting of 330 million gods"
as far as i remember those number was were never mention in LB4, and in real life Hindu pantheon didn't have 330 million gods, it's 33 Koti, where Koti means category which was mistranslation as crore and 1 crore= 10 million, Hindu pantheon have hundreds of gods but not 330million
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two more thing regarding Arjuna alter
1)Stamina: Infinite (Should have superior stamina to Kama and stated that his divine power can be considered infinite)
it was stated in lb4 that he have infinite energy, by douman(forgot the section) and by Ashwatthama when he was about to use time travel
2)Likely Resistance to Void Manipulation (Can exist in a nothingness without any trouble)
he was shown to exist in void without any trouble, ash and karna was able to do it as well
1)Stamina: Infinite (Should have superior stamina to Kama and stated that his divine power can be considered infinite)
it was stated in lb4 that he have infinite energy, by douman(forgot the section) and by Ashwatthama when he was about to use time travel
2)Likely Resistance to Void Manipulation (Can exist in a nothingness without any trouble)
he was shown to exist in void without any trouble, ash and karna was able to do it as well
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It sounds like Arjuna Alter is getting a CRT at the end of the month or some time like that so you can just bring these up there.
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not a crt more like little correction in profile
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No like Arjuna Alter is getting a pretty big CRT towards the end of the month so it can be discussed there.
No point in making like 5 changes when the profile is about to be revamped.
No point in making like 5 changes when the profile is about to be revamped.
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Servant Tier List - Lostbelt 4 edition
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was this change approved?
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Caster (Solomon)
Life always ends eventually. Life is also a pilgrimage that accumulates suffering. But it is by no means a story of death and extinction. My long standing mistake from the past, O' beast born from my dead body, now it's time to judge your evil with my own hands.Solomon to Goetia Caster (キャスター...
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AAS was directly mentioned as one of the NPs that would be changed in the “Low 1-C, possibly 1-C” CRT to be changed just like Ea was.
Although I dont know about the normally part, just that AAS is Tier 1.
EDIT Just looked into it a bit and yeah that specific change was not an approved change.
Although I dont know about the normally part, just that AAS is Tier 1.
EDIT Just looked into it a bit and yeah that specific change was not an approved change.
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I went through his profile, and it really has some scaling inconsistences.
I wonder, does anyone a source for Arjuna being the strongest enemy that Chaldea faced up to LB4?
I guess that will have to go anyways since LB5.5 had Sion saying that Beast I and Beast VII were the strongest recorded entities by Chaldea's records, plus Zeus being stronger than Arjuna by Holmes and Rasputin saying that Beast had the strongest Saint Graphs in Earth besides the Ultimate One of Oort.
Also, it wasn't like anything that Chaldea had seen before. It was just Holmes who hadn't witnessed anything like that before, but he wasn't present during the Timple of Time.
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Like I said Altjuna (And LB4) is getting a CRT once LB6 is over, Crimson is doing it.
Zeus definitely isnt stronger than Altjuna, also iirc Holmes was specifically talking about the fact that Altjunas power required like worship or something while Zeus’ didnt iirc.
But what ever his tiering justification will be revamped in the CRT iirc.
Zeus definitely isnt stronger than Altjuna, also iirc Holmes was specifically talking about the fact that Altjunas power required like worship or something while Zeus’ didnt iirc.
But what ever his tiering justification will be revamped in the CRT iirc.
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In lb 5.5 they never talk tell that beast I and VII were the strongest record entity.
She just compare goetia and the beast VII by saying that goetia power is in the class of tier 2 planet and that alien god is in the class of tier 3 planet.
And Do you have the statement about Rasputin pls?
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LB5 has a conversation where it appears to state that Zeus is more powerful than Arjuna, because Arjuna's power is variable according to the faith of his followers. Found a couple of fan translation.
Source
In LB5, Beryl tells Rasputin that the King of his Lostbelt is the strongest being on the planet, seemingly refeering to Morgan. Assuming he isn't bluffing, it would probably only scale to Rhongomyniad/Excalibur, especially since Muramasa was sent to assassinate Morgan. Though a plot twist where Morgan isn't the real English Lostbelt King is plausible.
On the note of Morgan,
Apocrypha design of Morgan, and what her Caster version (which might never show up in FGO) would probably look like:
Morgan's design from some 2006 manga:
I saw it, so you have to see it too.
I'll be making a CRT to upgrade Wall level Servants to be physically comparable to their Tier 6 contemporaries, which is a relatively large change. Is now a good time?
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In LB5, Beryl tells Rasputin that the King of his Lostbelt is the strongest being on the planet, seemingly refeering to Morgan. Assuming he isn't bluffing, it would probably only scale to Rhongomyniad/Excalibur, especially since Muramasa was sent to assassinate Morgan. Though a plot twist where Morgan isn't the real English Lostbelt King is plausible.
On the note of Morgan,
Apocrypha design of Morgan, and what her Caster version (which might never show up in FGO) would probably look like:
Morgan's design from some 2006 manga:
I saw it, so you have to see it too.
I'll be making a CRT to upgrade Wall level Servants to be physically comparable to their Tier 6 contemporaries, which is a relatively large change. Is now a good time?
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LB5 has a conversation where it appears to state that Zeus is more powerful than Arjuna, because Arjuna's power is variable according to the faith of his followers. Found a couple of fan translation.
Source
In LB5, Beryl tells Rasputin that the King of his Lostbelt is the strongest being on the planet, seemingly refeering to Morgan. Assuming he isn't bluffing, it would probably only scale to Rhongomyniad/Excalibur, especially since Muramasa was sent to assassinate Morgan. Though a plot twist where Morgan isn't the real English Lostbelt King is plausible.
On the note of Morgan,
Apocrypha design of Morgan, and what her Caster version (which might never show up in FGO) would probably look like:
Morgan's design from some 2006 manga:
I saw it, so you have to see it too.
I'll be making a CRT to upgrade Wall level Servants to be physically comparable to their Tier 6 contemporaries, which is a relatively large change. Is now a good time?
For the lb5 case, it's just gordolf that assume that and holmes explain that it's just that zeus is a true god and so don't have the weakness of arjuna alter to nee faith
Only explanation we could get from that it's that Arjuna alter whithout faith could be weaker than zeus
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I dont know if that really states that Zeus is specifically stronger just that he has to be dealt with differently than Arjuna Alter.
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There is no indication that Arjuna is stronger. Zeus is a similar composite divinity with complete control over his texture and anti-galaxy/solar system attacks that can threaten the entire star. So in capabilities they are the same, but Zeus is explictly a higher rank of existence due to Divinity with a body > Hollowed Divine Spirit.
That's not the only explanation. It's the only explanation if you can't part from the notion of Arjuna Alter being the strongest, even when LB5 explictly goes against that notion.
It had been long established, since Babylonia, that Divinities were stronger than Divine Spirits. LB2 repeated that and Lostbelt 5 was the first instance where we saw a full pantheon (even if mostly enslaved and cannibalized under their chief god) of such beings fighting us.
Plus just from a narrative perpective, Arjuna Alter is not even the final boss of the first half of part 2, it's natural for him to be powercreeped.
They say that Beast VII had the second strongest entity by energy output, second only to Goetia.
Here is from the raw:
You also have it translated here:
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From Olympus epilogue:
| 神父 | いや。私もすぐに発つ。 |
| 神父 | 『異星の神』は今の器より、より強固な器をお望みだ。 その調達に向かうのだよ。 |
| 千子村正 | ？ 今でも充分に強いじゃねえか。 地球上ではあれより強い霊基は作れないんだろう？ |
| 千子村正 | なら、これ以上の器なんざどこにも無えぞ？ |
| 神父 | それが、あるのだよ。 |
| 神父 | 太古の昔、この惑星に飛来した外来の種は アトランティスの機神だけではない。 |
| 神父 | 広大な地下冥界シ バ ル バ ーをその胎はらに抱いた、 巨獣たちが闊歩かっぽする黄金の樹海。 |
| 神父 | アラヤが安定した世界では眠りにつき、 ガイアが出現する世界では蠢動しゅんどうするもの。 |
| 神父 | オールトの雲より飛来した、 極限の単独種ア ル テ ミ ッ ト ・ ワ ンがね。 |
During Hell Realm Mandala Douman also says that Beasts have the strongest Saint Graph:
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Except zeus is a composite of 12 god and arjuna alter is the composite his entire pantheon (with god like shiva that can theathen the universe)
We already know that divinity can't mean too much as lb5.5 we already have ibuki being compared to zeus when she only a burei.
They don't say that beast VII has the second strongest output they litteraly talk about planet scale energy to compare the two beast.
Serisouly they have litteraly 0 mention of strongest in the text. Even more when we already know that a bloomed tree equal ASS in energy and that arjuna alter could do it easily after absorbed the tree compared to Goetia who need an enormous amount of time to be able to do it.
Arjuna also tried to increase his own strength, accessing the pocket dimension of the Fantasy Tree Spiral, revealing the galaxy inside. Arjuna states that the boost he gained from absorbing its tremendous amount of Magical Energy made him just as powerful as when he first absorbed the gods, if not more. Sherlock Holmes states that with that much sheer energy, Arjuna would be able to easily incinerate the Earth’s surface, as Goetia did.
Lb5 don't go against this notion.
Divinities are not always stronger than divine spirit we have already see this many time to. And if we go by that most of god in lb4 that arjuna have absorbed were full god too. As the time arjuna alter have do this was way before the degradation of god.
Except that fate doesn't go only for power creep thing lol. And even in combat lb5 is not here to show us the final boss of part 1 but to introduce alien god.
And rasputin doesn't tell that beast have the strongest saint grail except Ort he litteraly tell that alien god want a strongest vessel and that the best for it is ORT. Not like just before we hear that alien god fear one of the being in lb6. And that he got punched out of lb5.2 easily by krisch.
The last thing is like already destroy by kama fearing the shit out of arjuna alter.
Having god that was at least equal to tiamat ( like her husband before his death and marduk that was equal to her).
Douman should not even be used as proof when he doesn't even know the qualifications to become a beast lol.
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12 Machine Gods + the Titan pieces was already an entire pantheon. It doesn't matter if there is a million, if the quality is lower.
A Bunrei can be equal in power to the main thing. That's the entirety of the deal with Tamamo, who can grow to be equal to the GWF.
They do, though?
From LB 5.2 we already know that Lostbelt trees work in a similar way than Goetia's incineration, except they get energy from recreating history instead than from burning it. But that's irrelevant for Arjuna Alter since that power-level depends on being connected to the tree, not a thing on his own. He even says after the line you posted that by getting in full sync with the tree, he is more powerful than he was just with all the divinities of India:
And incinerating the entire surface is a thing that Goetia does not one time, but he does it one second at a time for 3000 years.
Plus Goetia incenerates not only the surface one at one timeline, he branches even into other timelines by burning down the tree into its roots:
Surtr was also going to incinerate the surface with the power up from the Tree of Time and Kirsch also thought that he could be used against Zeus (probably thanks to the Anti-God properties):
Finally, from 5.5 that a fully matured tree still results in a being inferior to Goetia, even if the readings were comparable at first. The Atlas Tree had the highest output and it ended up with a being that ranks seconds to Goetia.
Arjuna is full of Divine Spirits, not Divinities. In LB4 we meet all Divine Spirits.
Holmes put the Mahabharata in the 5000 BCE, which is after Sefar's attack in 12000 BCE and thus during the degradation. The only ones who seemed to transition later were the Nordic Pantheon who became Divine Spirits during Ragnarok in 1000 BCE.
The entire talk that was posted above and your plan to defeat him is about that: Divine Spirits are dependent on faith (or else they will degrade and lose power), while Divinities have their powers engraved in their bodies and thus aren't subjected to that problem. We always hear that Divine Spirits are 'hollow', and we also see Tiamat overpowering the domain advantage of Ereskhigal who could win against any other god in her Underworld by regressing to her true Divinity form.
In Lostbelt 2 they remark multiple times that Divine Spirits were inferior to Gods:
Surtr has been degraded by having his actual body, the planet Muspelheim, sealed away and turned into a Divine Spirit:
The only Divine Spirits who had been explicitly put above this scale on their own are Ibaki Douji, who was both a Burnei of another greater being, and Amaterasu, who is a god who seems to have a different kind of divinity that the other gods and was said to be comparable to Goetia's incineration of Human History by Tamamo.
Muramasa asks what vessel could be stronger than a Beast class, implying that all the others are bellow, and Rasputin answers that there is only one on Earth: Oort's Ultimate One. You cannot spin that around much, it's pretty clear what it means.
It also ties with the actual plan of the Alien God: the only Lostbelt that was expected to succeed and it eventually does is the Atlantic one. The others were just afterthoughts that Kirsch managed to convince the Alien God to make for his teammates. They had elements that may be threatening to the Alien God, but the original plan for the vessel of the Alien God was to make a Beast in the Atlantic Lostbelt. And after it was proven that it wasn't invincible, Rasputin has gone to search an even superior vessel.
He seems qualified enough to know about the power-levels. And it's consistent with what learn from the Rasputin and Muramasa conversation. I don't see why it needs to be ignored, besides that it would contradict your Arjunawank.
But even without that, Seimei also confirms that even if you absorb all the gods that you want, you won't approach to the Saint Graph of the Beast Class:
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Except the quality of india pantheon is higher than Olympus bruh. Shiva alone have a feat that only composite Zeus is mentionned have
Ibuki was a bunrei with only the saint graph of a servant when she was already tell to be comparable to Zeus. And no tamamo nine tail is still weaker than Amaterasu she tell it herself when she she tell she could become stronger enough to fight with Sefar if she become the Su' but she will not be her anymore, and tell by Amaterasu too as "Tamamo is just a little part of her"
They do not that just tell that this is second to goetia on the planetary energy scale(which we don't even know what his it), the feat we have prove the contrary. + Having Chaos not being able to be defeated even by ASS.
" Holmes claims not even Goetia with the lights bands at full power could fully incinerate it"
With this fact At best it would be the rank of beast themself otherwise it litteraly impossible as we have being tell to be stronger than them appearing and that
The line he tell in raw his not exactly the same as he tell that the tree is equal to the first god (krishna) he have absorb. And it's not depend on being connected as arjuna alter have absorbs it. But anyways if we count that the girl that have eaten the tree in lb6 will be stronger than goetia.
+ By ex the tree in lb2 was just serving to restore the real strength of Surtr meaning.
He tell about the energy gathered in these time span will be used to backward in time. So he still needed 3k years to be able to do it. And this thing is still not a feat he can do normaly.
"One second. One minute. One hour. One day. One month. One year. Energy generated in each of these time spans will be harvested going backwards in time."
Why you even mention that? They litteraly tell that he will be able to do the same thing than Goetia so he would be have enough energy to do it to all the timeline too.
Where do you get the lb5.5 tree being inferior to Goetia and he not fully matured, if he was full matured he would have covered the entire earth it's explain in lb5 ? Douman wasn't able to become a beast only because he doesn't live humanity. Where do you get that their inferior to Goetia pls?
-It's normal we see only divine spirit since the only that rest is a demi servant and Arjuna alter lol, the rest are still god that arjuna absorbed to become what he his now.
He tell himself to have absorbed god and not divine spirit.
-Do you have the quote about holmes taking about the divergence being in just 5000 BCE??
Srtur even as a divine spirit was stronger than Skadi. And God being always above divine spirit is false. Stheno as god will never be stronger than Shiva as a divine spirit by ex. We even see it in when dioscuri divine spirit and dioscuri god are not even this disparted in strength. Or that skadi as a full god still can't fight surtr
The entire point for a divine spirit being weaker is because is alone as a divine spirit only except that arjuna alter is not is a composite divinity.
And you want to tell that Skadi>Arjuna alter because she is a god and him not?
In Extella the father of karna, Surya is already tell to be somewhat comparable to Amaterasu just a little lower.
And Amaterasu exist in the hindu mythology and she not even that high in the pantheon.
Muramassa doesn't ask what vessel could be stronger than a Beast, he answer to rasputin litteraly with a thing like "he isn't enough strong?"
Seimei just tell that douman can't have a saint graph of the beast with the methods he use. It's litteraly because he doesn't have the qualifications. We have Vitch that just absorb lower beast and his able to become a beast if she continu to do it lol because she have the qualifications. Or just kama who can Become one by just waiting.
And we litteraly have being that was tell to be comparable/have defeat beast or comparable being themself.
The husband of tiamat is comparable to her, Marduk is the one that have defeat her, the father of tiamat is stronger than her.
Seimei is the one to have defeated Amaterasu.
Shiva litteraly one shot kama, kama fearing the shit of arjuna alter
Even for Goetia he is weaker than Solomon with ten ring. Etc.
Buddha is at least equal to Kiara. Kiara CCC herself is already comparable to her beast counterparts. And the two of them are not the strongest of their mythology
Beast was never the strongest being, we litteraly have the grand servant make to defeat them, and most of the beast have being stronger/comparable to them in their own mythology.
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Anyway the moment we know that Chaos and a bloomed tree that arjuna alter have absorbed are more powerful than ASS that is a thing that Goetia make 3k years to make it's enough to know that either that statement of the two being the strongest is false or it's talk about about only Beast.
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Got Morgan but I have no berserker pieces.
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Right now I feel that pain, but with exp cards for Bride.
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He was destroying the universe in his texture, he wasn't even going to spill outside of it.
Lostbelt Artemis was already loaded with an Anti-Star/Planet NP.
She didn't have the Saint Graph of a Servant. She was a full Divine Spirit with the full power of Orochi in her.
Tamamo Nine Tails is on the same power as Amaterasu. That's the entire point of her. It's just that getting at that power brings her too close in personality to Amaterasu to her tastes (albeit in CCC she able to just cut her tails without a problem afterwards).
Look, since you are just ignoring the quote, I will post just it again bolded. You are free to keep ignoring the facts.
He is only using a very small amount of that energy to travel back in time, and thanks to Independent Manifestation he can already travel in time in a limited fashion. There is no point on mentioning that he is harvesting every second of the surface burning if he is going to use it all to travel another second. The 3000 years are needed in their entirety to travel back to the genesis of the planet (4,6 billion years).
I'm talking about the Fantasy Tree Atlas, not Hell Realm Mandala. Fantasy Tree Atlas, which was said to have an energy comparable to AAs, resulted in the Alien God's vessel whose energy readings were inferior to that of Goetia's. So even using the entire fully matured tree doesn't make you superior to Goetia.
I just went through LB4 a few days ago and I don't remember that even said. I also searched through the script and I couldn't find that mention. If you are going to claim that you are gonna have to bring me a quote.
He has the energy to incinerate the surface, not to replicate the burning of the Human Order. Holmes doesn't say that he will be able to burn the 3000 years of history, just the surface, and Anti-Human Order NP> Anti-World NP.
Holmes places the Mahabharata in his Trial Quest.
Skadi explictly says that he is no longer a threat as a Divine Spirit.
He only becomes a threat later on when he usurps the control of the Fantasy Tree using the Paper Moon. Before that, he couldn't even fully use his Authority.
Also Stheno and Euryale are not Divnities, they are Divine Spirits formed by human thoughts.
They don't say that he is comparable anywhere. Karna just has a conceptual advantage over the moon with his sun armor (something that Tamamo remarks in her ending in CCC) and has the Spear of Indra that can threaten the White Titan because as a the 'White God', a god slaying spear is still effective against its first stages. Nothing mentioned on Surya being Amaterasu tier.
None of that changes the fact that he said that it is the mightiest Saint Graph, so what's the point on arguing about the qualifications? You were arguing that Douman's statement wasn't qualified because he didn't know enoguh about Beasts, but Seimei also said that.
So I guess you concede in that the Beasts are said to have the strongest Saint Graph since you are back to arguing on the qualifications instead of disproving that?
A candidate doesn't become a Beast until they do. So comparing them to a real manifested Beast in worlds where they haven't manifested doesn't matter since they won't have the Beast Saint Graph. So that's for your comparative with Marduk, Seimei and Shiva.
Tiamat in her Divinity form was able to overpower the Authority of Ereskhigal, who could overpower any other god of Sumer in her own territory. They also multiple times that there is no power in Sumer that can stop her. And she couldn't be a Beast or Evil or Man during the time she was sealed because... It was so deep in the Age of Gods that there was no Human Order to empower her as a Beast.
Seimei defeated a Nine Tailed Fox who wasn't a Beast.
Shiva burned a Kama who wasn't a Beast. And we don't even see her matured state, she was a larval Beast just like Kiara.
Goetia isn't weaker than Solomon with the ten ring. Solomon in the Temple has the the Ten Rings, they are needed to activate Ars Nova. Solomon (alive) could stop Goetia because the entirety of Goetia is bound to Solomon and he commanded him. Mats say that Goetia surpassed anything that Solomon (alive) could do:
We have only seeing Grands called to defeat a Beast directly in one occasion, and it took two Grands (Merlin and King Hassan), a Chief God tier Divine Spirit, three other Divine Spirit (one in her underworld where she could overpower any other god in her Mythology) and Gilgamesh using Ea to defeat her. And that was after . During the entry of the Alien God, Holmes already mentions that defeating the fully manifested Beast Tiamat and Goetia required a monumental effort and the right circumstances to destroy their immortalities and defenses (something that they repeat in the LB 5.5's prologue).
Also Buddha is the head of his mythology (and at worst he is also the head of other mythologies due to syncretism, like how Casko's matrix makes Amaterasu also Buddha), and Beast Kiara, even while being weaker than her CCC self during the even as she is still in a larva state, has a conceptual advantage against by nullifying his skills via Nega-Saver.
Chaos may be stronger since he is considered a Star. There is no indication that Arjuna Alter is stronger outside of your own wank. Even the quote that you posted, Arjuna + Tree was only able to burn the surface, while Goetia was able to burn the surface millions of times, branch to multiple timelines of incineration and penetrate the planet.
But we just get a glimpse of Chaos, who is an order of magnitude above Zeus, and in LB5.5, we were told that he didn't make it to the top two of Chaldea's recorded energy outputs. And yes, I'm going to keep using that because that's what the text says. That it doesn't fit your headcanon it's not a reason to ignore it.
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Holy shit how do your posts keep getting ******* bigger.
No one wants to read a ******* book for a debate about whos dimensonal **** is bigger, both of you please for the love of god take this to DMs.
No one wants to read a ******* book for a debate about whos dimensonal **** is bigger, both of you please for the love of god take this to DMs.
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Cry me a ******* river, man. The discussion has just been running for a few posts and this is a goddamn forum, if you don't want to read people debating about a series and power levels in its thread and bringing quotes maybe go to another site.
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Oh **** off, plenty of people are capable of making debate posts without making them a ******* novel. Its called links and condensing.
It clogs threads, makes points and information hard to find and is just a waste of time. Large posts are fine but there comes a point when it just becomes to large.
Hell it would be one thing if this was a thread specifically about this topic but its not, all it does is make it hard talk about other shit like the new Lostbelt or even just SKNs tier list.
Its just you two debating it so it can be just as easily done over DMs with clogging up the thread
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I dont even care if you guys continue to debate here just at least try to condense your posts and arguments.
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I prefer to copy the relevant parts and highlight things rather than just calling on them, specially in a site that relies heavily on feats.
If you have a problem with posting feats, as I said, you can just close the window and move to another site.
Not gonna condense quotes since they are a small fragment, but I can spoiler them if seeing 'so many words' really hurts your brain that much.
