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[TypeOU]

I didn't talk about FKG, we had a comparaison direct between a normal fairy and servant in lb6 and it stated that normal fairy are stronger than many servant, and fk gawain litteraly destroyed tristan tho.... Gawain and lancelot she fought later were buffed so don't count as servant.

FKG explicitly said that while her galatine was as strong as Gawain's, she wasn't. Can't make it clearer than that. And again it doesn't matter if rando fairies were called servant level (or even higher), every lb has those until they get fodderized as low or mid hp enemies in main quests. FKT is much weaker than FKG so the scaling is there. Also you're seriously gonna use Tristan as an example? The same Tristan who was fighting FKG and not getting stomped? And you're trying to tell me that a rando fairy could beat him?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Dunno about saber, but rider astolfo could be a good match sure. His luck would allow him to no-sell the curse but she could win with regular failnaught. Just don't pit her against top servants

Crap, i already put her against Raikou, f*** me i guess

 

[TypeOU]

Crap, i already put her against Raikou, f*** me i guess

Raikou isn't a top servant.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Raikou isn't a top servant.

Well but still, Raikou is a bit too much for Sith
Remind me to bump that match to surface since i feel that despite the revision, all of the addition to Sith wouldn't change the outcome of her fight against Raikou

 

[Mageman460]

Tristan state himself that he couldn't defeat the first fairy we met, and she one of the weakest fairy who have lost her reason. (Second image is just here to show which fairy he talk about)

This was not only an amnesiac Tristan, but Tristan himself has a bad affinity with fairies. He is clearly panicking just being around fairies.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Well but still, Raikou is a bit too much for Sith
Remind me to bump that match to surface since i feel that despite the revision, all of the addition to Sith wouldn't change the outcome of her fight against Raikou

why are you so obsessed with raikou?

you a raikou main?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

This was not only an amnesiac Tristan, but Tristan himself has a bad affinity with fairies. He is clearly panicking just being around fairies.

Hey mage why do fairies hate humans again? What bad thing Did the humans do to them?

 

[Excaliburhuman]

why fairies so mean though. What is their beef with humans again?

They don't hate humans they just find it fun to play with them.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

They don't hate humans they just find it fun to play with them.

so they’re dicks basically?

 

[Regidian]

FKG explicitly said that while her galatine was as strong as Gawain's, she wasn't. Can't make it clearer than that. And again it doesn't matter if rando fairies were called servant level (or even higher), every lb has those until they get fodderized as low or mid hp enemies in main quests. FKT is much weaker than FKG so the scaling is there. Also you're seriously gonna use Tristan as an example? The same Tristan who was fighting FKG and not getting stomped? And you're trying to tell me that a rando fairy could beat him?

? FKG was always as strong than gawain + her using gawain name weaken her. Not like she have litteral better feat than him.
Tristan got stomped by FKG and could only use his NP with all of his lifeforce to do a thing. + In lb6 only mash powered, castoria and two high tier fight them...

 

[Regidian]

This was not only an amnesiac Tristan, but Tristan himself has a bad affinity with fairies. He is clearly panicking just being around fairies.

Being amnesiac doesn't change his strengh outside of his NP

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Being amnesiac doesn't change his strengh outside of his NP

out of the three fairy knights who’s the nicest one of them.

Also judging by fairy knight gawain’s appearence. Is she the strongest out of them?

 

[Regidian]

out of the three fairy knights who’s the nicest one of them.

Also judging by fairy knight gawain’s appearence. Is she the strongest out of them?

Sith was the nicest in her first reincarnations. but now it would be barghest.
Melusine is the strongest

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Sith was the nicest in her first reincarnations. but now it would be barghest.
Melusine is the strongest

i assumed Barghest was the strongest based on her appearance. She tall and muscular.

but melusine she scrawny regi.

I guess appearances don’t mean everything.

 

[Regidian]

i assumed Barghest was the strongest based on her appearance. She tall and muscular.

but melusine she scrawny regi.

I guess appearances don’t mean everything.

Melusine is the hand of albion her apparance is only here to appeal the fairy she consider as a mother

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Melusine is the hand of albion her apparance is only here to appeal the fairy she consider as a mother

oh.

but if fairies are evil to humans because it’s fun. Does that mean they cannot be redeemed?

 

[TypeOU]

? FKG was always as strong than gawain + her using gawain name weaken her. Not like she have litteral better feat than him.
Tristan got stomped by FKG and could only use his NP with all of his lifeforce to do a thing. + In lb6 only mash powered, castoria and two high tier fight them...

"Fairy Knight Gawain: Galatine...a Noble Phantasm, you say?

Fairy Knight Gawain: I'm confident it can match the original carried by Sir Gawain.

Fairy Knight Gawain: But I can't say the same about myself. I can't stand aside the genuine Knights of the Round Table of pan-human history."

No idea how much more obvious she can make it. And using Gawain name doesn't weaken her because she's stronger. It does because numeral of the saint " is nothing but a hindrance to a creature of the night like myself!". Also she would still roflstomp FKT even with that nerf

Tristan didn't get stomped.

 

[Regidian]

"Fairy Knight Gawain: Galatine...a Noble Phantasm, you say?

Fairy Knight Gawain: I'm confident it can match the original carried by Sir Gawain.

Fairy Knight Gawain: But I can't say the same about myself. I can't stand aside the genuine Knights of the Round Table of pan-human history."

No idea how much more obvious she can make it. And using Gawain name doesn't weaken her because she's stronger. It does because numeral of the saint " is nothing but a hindrance to a creature of the night like myself!". Also she would still roflstomp FKT even with that nerf

Tristan didn't get stomped.

The feat themself tell otherwise + barghest is a simp of gawain i wouldn't take much of her opinion of him. And tristan get stomped, he litteraly did little damage even with his NP, go retake a look at the scene + he litteraly know that he would die with her, he just fight her to let mash/castoria/mc go away bcz them combined wouldn't beat her . Now except if you tell me that gawain can take tristan NP easily then barghest have way better feat. feat>word like how you don't accept that tristan tell that random fairy are stronger than him

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Why is Tristan so afraid of fairies, mage said he has bad affinity for them.

what evil crime did they do to him that resulted in that?

 

[TypeOU]

The feat themself tell otherwise

they don't.

+ barghest is a simp of gawain i wouldn't take much of her opinion of him.

doesn't matter

And tristan get stomped, he litteraly did little damage even with his NP, go retake a look at the scene

source: don't worry bro. They didn't update her sprite but she is explicitly stated to be wounded. Not only that but she even needed to use her np. Stop coping.

+ he litteraly know that he would die with her, he just fight her to let mash/castoria/mc go away bcz them combined wouldn't beat her .

again doesn't matter. Of course he would lose (and even then he thought and did stand a chance), but he didn't lose as badly as FKT would.

Now except if you tell me that gawain can take tristan NP easily then barghest have way better feat. feat>word like how you don't accept that tristan tell that random fairy are stronger than him

he can. Failnaught is an A ranked np. Gawain no-selled higher-ranked NPs with little to no damage.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Yeah, i'm trusting on what Regi said here

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

So I spent all my tickets and got nothing then used 1 single roll with sq got nothing.

Then I used a ten roll 30sq

And guys I got jalter now. How cool is that.


so I have regular Jeanne and I have jalter now.


i guess having sieg is great now thanks to her dragon witch ability too bad it doesn’t buff her which sucks

 

[Ubdon]

So I spent all my tickets and got nothing then used 1 single roll with sq got nothing.

Then I used a ten roll 30sq

And guys I got jalter now. How cool is that.


so I have regular Jeanne and I have jalter now.


i guess having sieg is great now thanks to her dragon witch ability too bad it doesn’t buff her which sucks

Great, even at np1 she good enough to kick anoying ruler class bosses

 

[Ubdon]

Also her 2nd skill don't deverse spending to upgrade

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Great, even at np1 she good enough to kick anoying ruler class bosses

she also good waifu choice.


we have to thank Gilles for creating this wonderful lady even though he is evil.


wait Gilles is a evil sorcerer.

and Jeanne is a ruler class (rulers can be princesses and stuff)

jalter = mileena confirmed?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I know it’s a stupid theory but I like to see Jeanne and jalter the same way as kitana and mileena.

Jalter’s basically a clone of Jeanne.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Question when will da vinci and the 7 counterfeit heroic spirits come back?

because I think I want a Jeanne alter costume change

 

[TypeOU]

Yeah, i'm trusting on what Regi said here

says that bageko stomped Tristan

she was wounded to a point where one of her men was worrying about her after a np clash, and couldn't free herself from failnaught (and yes, city holding is failnaught regular use.)

says that Tristan is weaker than an average fairy

he could fight a fairy knight and wound her when she was known for being invincible in her LB

bageko has better feats than gawain

day and even night gawain takes no damage from A+ and little damage from A++ ranked nps consistently. He literally shrugged off multiple airgeltam TNR. Bageko was wounded through a np clash with tristan's A ranked failnaught.

FKT isn't fodder to top servant

Bageko, who is around top servant tier, is explicitly leagues above FKT, and while 2 bells castoria can win against FKT, she would get stomped by her. And I should mention that she is weaker at chaldea, but I don't even need to.

Yeah sure he totally got it.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I tested Jalter and found she’s stupidly OP especially when using merlin and castoria

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

she was wounded to a point where one of her men was worrying about her after a np clash, and couldn't free herself from failnaught (and yes, city holding is failnaught regular use.)


he could fight a fairy knight and wound her when she was known for being invincible in her LB


day and even night gawain takes no damage from A+ and little damage from A++ ranked nps consistently. He literally shrugged off multiple airgeltam TNR. Bageko was wounded through a np clash with tristan's A ranked failnaught.


Bageko, who is around top servant tier, is explicitly leagues above FKT, and while 2 bells castoria can win against FKT, she would get stomped by her. And I should mention that she is weaker at chaldea, but I don't even need to.

Yeah sure he totally got it.

To each of their own man, don't need to push it like it was so extra for you
Note that i acknowledged Sith being a low tier servant
If Paul seeing your arguments, he might going to laughing at you

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Guys Orion Artemis is pretty terrible I heard.


so what buffs would she need in order to be better?

 

[TypeOU]

To each of their own man, don't need to push it like it was so extra for you
Note that i acknowledged Sith being a low tier servant
If Paul seeing your arguments, he might going to laughing at you

Dude this isn't an opinion. I don't "think" fairies are this or that. It's a debate. There's no "to each their own".

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

To each of their own man, don't need to push it like it was so extra for you
Note that i acknowledged Sith being a low tier servant
If Paul seeing your arguments, he might going to laughing at you

oh wait you must have put me on the ignore list on your account thing

that’s why my replies and posts aren’t notifying you.

Let me guess because I’m cringe

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Great, even at np1 she good enough to kick anoying ruler class bosses

how terrible is Orion/Artemis again ubdon?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Dude this isn't an opinion. I don't "think" fairies are this or that. It's a debate. There's no "to each their own".

Yeah but i prefer both of you agree or disagree, continuing this is pointless

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Yeah but i prefer both of you agree or disagree, continuing this is pointless

you never try to talk to me when I talk to you

 

[Ubdon]

how terrible is Orion/Artemis again ubdon?

Orion terrible? That guy who without supports casually gives 50-100k crits ?? That guy who can kick goetia in 2 turns??? Must be joke

I use artemis only once so can't say

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Orion terrible? That guy who without supports casually gives 50-100k crits ?? That guy who can kick goetia in 2 turns??? Must be joke

I use artemis only once so can't say

i meant Orion as in Artemis

i called it Orion/Artemis because it’s mostly artemis taking Orion’s jobz

 

[Ubdon]

i meant Orion as in Artemis

i called it Orion/Artemis because it’s mostly artemis taking Orion’s jobz

ah ok

well i check her profile and she isn't bad. just not as good as new characters

bond ce give party 25% crit damage

50% +damage to male on skill

1st 20% atk and 30 defence

3rd evade and 34% crit damage

np is good but side effect

Deals damage to one enemy.
(Reduces their attack by 20% for 3 turns.
Reduces their NP gauge by 1. Reduces their critical attack chance for 3 turns.) are meh in lostbelt

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

ah ok

well i check her profile and she isn't bad. just not as good as new characters

bond ce give party 25% crit damage

50% +damage to male on skill

1st 20% atk and 30 defence

3rd evade and 34% crit damage

np is good but side effect

Deals damage to one enemy.
(Reduces their attack by 20% for 3 turns.
Reduces their NP gauge by 1. Reduces their critical attack chance for 3 turns.) are meh in lostbelt

any buffs that would make artemis better?