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Naruto vs Ichigo vs Luffy vs Asta vs Natsu vs Meliodas vs Deku Vs Rei
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His cloak consistently portrayed instinctive reaction.
KCM does not.
This isn't "all because he hasn't shown it, doesn't mean he doesn't still have it", because it's instinctive reaction, they would've been summoned.
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I gave context when I edited my comment. Kurama says he can use a small amount of Shadow Clones and Naruto proceeds to use 3. Him being able to make hundreds beforehand doesn't really mean much because they openly state it's harder to maintain Kurama Mode in comparison to KCM1 and with Sage Mode on top.
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This isn't a thing. Like at all. Where did you get this from? Soul Reapers are accepted to attack the souls of their targets. Soul Manipulation (Shinigami can directly damage souls with their Zanpakutō),
Also Kurama mode is free real estate for Asta.
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But that doesn't imply that he is limited to only 3 in that mode specifically. Like wasn't naruto fighting for like three hundred years before that moment and was fatigued or something so he could very well be conserving chakra since he was gonna give it all away. And also there is no stated limit for KCM 2's clones. He was still able to make hundreds in KCM 1 and that mode is bad for his chakra, there is no reason for him not to be able to spam clones if he was at full strength here. In fact hundreds is an exaggeration, even 20 is enough for this battle.
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...what? The War was only 2 days. Naruto joined during the 2nd day and had not only his Chakra and wounds recovered by Sakura but had Minato and Yin Kurama share Chakra with him.
Again just saying he could spam clones in a form that has less maintenance doesn't mean much. If he could make more clones Kurama would have allowed so.
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PrinceofPein
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Does it matter it is not damaging naruto either way, kaido was tanking it easily at that.
Anyway I dont know what they mean by stats equalized its absurd and JTS not done that way here, we are not equalising speed or using a certain tier version but equalising stats, what does it even mean!?
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Equal stats. It means AP, durability and speed equalized.
PrinceofPein
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Well okay then
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Kizaru counts as energy, Haki works on him.
Not at all
The huge yellow fox is getting jumped.
So he starts in Bijuu mode
3 people flying around in mid air, Naruto is not a sharp shooter
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Luffy go brrrrr
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He is a DF and a logia type at that Haki specifically works on him.
I have seen no proof of Ichigo capable of hitting spiritual bodies through physical ones.
Bruh he doesnt have to focus on all three and what do you mean he is not a sharp shooter? He can track people with SM and on top of that BBs are pretty big and so is their explosion.
Again assuming he stars with it most likely Rei is getting jumped, and even then why are you assuming everyone just jumps the biggest thing they see? There are multiple people to jump. Again seems quite arbitrary in your favour.
Actually he shouldnt Bijuu mode is a power not a transformation, his transformation is BSM.
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would this be added on the profiles once a conclusion has been hit?
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Nah, stats equal and RC restricted and we dont add battle royales like this on top of that.
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oh ok
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It WAS, however, his fault for what he did at the hospital in the movie.
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I love how the whole argument about ryou was glossed over. On topic, since I am assuming that Luffy cannot be one shotted here, I would give it to either him or Naruto, since they are the most creative with their abilities. Rei is too weak without her EVA and, with it, it is basically just a giant body with an A.T. Field (which can be broken) and a gun. I’m pretty sure Luffy could use CH to knock her out since the pilots always seem to be very susceptible to mental attacks. And before people argue about that, I just want to remind you all that this is not Lilith Rei, so CH working is a likelihood.
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Meliodas has a good chance. I’ve given my case for him above.
The argument of Ryuou wasn’t dismissed honestly, people just got caught up in other things. Has Luffy shown the ability to use well-ranged Ryuou? I only saw the parts where he used Ryuou on basically physical contact.
The argument of Ryuou wasn’t dismissed honestly, people just got caught up in other things. Has Luffy shown the ability to use well-ranged Ryuou? I only saw the parts where he used Ryuou on basically physical contact.
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It is a relatively new technique and, unfortunately, not much of it has been shown. It wasn’t really physical contact but, at the same time, the distance was not substantial. Considering that there are df users like Kizaru’s who can spam attacks from far away, I would not be surprised if the level of emission is higher than what was initially presented. Despite that, let’s not forget that Luffy’s primary ability is stretching, so distance should not really be a problem.
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Yall keep saying "it's not longe range" as if Luffy can't stretch his limbs...
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I know, I know. I’m just making sure, since it’s, well, a BIG DEAL for this match lmao. I think Luffy will be Meliodas’ main problem just for that specifically. Yet again though, it doesn’t really harm people that are significantly higher than his power like Kaido, so maybe if Meli goes assault mode it won’t be too bad if he gets hit?
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Actually, the point of it was literally TO HURT Kaido. Luffy can only damage him with Ryou. It does internal damage. You should probably read up on the ability from the One Piece wiki to better understand it.
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To be fair, that honestly needs to be revised. It is ridiculous that they still have Luffy at 7-A. Not as ridiculous as the Yonko being at 7-A, but still...
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Luffy hasn't hurt Kaido yet without Ryuo, and it's internal damage, he shouldn't/wouldn't scale
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Fair enough for now. I’d still argue otherwise, but this isn’t the thread for that.
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I see, I see. Nevermind then.
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Luffy is only good at durability negation, any good AoE fighter can take him out. Meliodas and naruto are the best fighters here.
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Attack Reflection, Homing Attacks, 25km range, Flight, and Future Sight handles them with ease.
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Future Sight is the only relavent thing here. Naruto vastly outrages everyone here.
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Yeah observation haki is the best thing in luffy's arsenal, but how tf does he have 25 km range? He's in gear 4 and if he streches that much then that leaves a massive opening to get his arms chopped off.
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Future Sight tied with Flight, he's dodging everything.
Natural Attack Reflection shoots Bijuudama's back before they explode.
Doesn't Haki have a forcefield too? He's not getting hit by anything comparable to him in AP.
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And he can move his limbs out of the way... plus ignoring the fact that he can exert a forcefield around his limbs and he'll know when to retract them via future sight.
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No when he's stretched he's basically helpless, haki can only protect so much, and future sight prevents this... but it also prevents him from ever extending his arms. All this while ignoring that he can't stretch in gear 4.
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I feel like you're vastly overestimating his flight, his FS is the best weapon in his arsenal.
Once he touches them they will explode in his face, and if he tries to reflect a RS he will die.
His forcefield won't last forever and Naruto will be able to outlast him.
