We don't know for certain that it is limited to 5B is my argument.
If those "other forces" were relevant enough to take Uzuhiko significantly above the 5-B forces it's making use of, they would have been mentioned.
You’re misunderstanding Slayer’s and my own argument. Based upon the information presented we know that the Uzuhiko comprises Boruto’s own chakra, the energy of the Earth’s orbit and rotation, among unnamed other forces. What Slayer and myself are claiming is that it is most probable and most likely that Uzuhiko isn’t massively above 10x 5-B to any quantifiable degree. We aren’t claiming it is hard capped by the value of Earth’s orbital and rotational energy + Boruto’s energy. We are claiming that it is far more likely to be around that level of energy given that these unnamed forces are unquantifiable vague forces, that were clearly not significant enough to even be named. The onus is on you to provide substantiation for the claim that Uzuhiko is far beyond that 10x 5-B value, something which you just haven’t done.
Read what Arc said in the above post carefully.
Halo 3 spotted, immediately based.
This is a pure example of an Argument from Ignorance
It isn’t. It’s an abduction argument, which utilizes logical reasoning in order to produce a most likely conclusion based upon incomplete information. Given that the only forces important enough to be named in the databook are Boruto + Planet motion, and when Boruto explains it in the manga he doesn’t even make mention of these other forces, heavily implies a lack of significance for said other forces. Especially the fact that Boruto made absolutely 0 mention of these unnamed forces, leads to the more likely conclusion that they simply aren’t relevant in this AP equation.
Words like limitless, infinite, unlimited, boundless, etc can all simply mean “very great” and do not inherently mean literally without limit or literally mathematical infinite. The onus again would be on you to prove that they mean that the Jutsu is quantifiable above ~10x 5-B. You’ve been merely restating the same claim that “we don’t know these other forces therefore the Jutsu could be stronger”, positing a hypothesis without any justification. We can equivocate and posit possibilities all we want, but unless you can prove that your position is the more or most likely position, then you simply lack any ground to stand on.
Boruto’s chakra by itself clashed evenly with Hidari. When Boruto added planet energy he vaporized 70% of Hidari. Boruto’s chakra is not relevant here at all, it’s blatant that the energy from the planet added to the Uzuhiko is far beyond Boruto’s energy alone empirically so.
And my opinion of you has just been exponentially multiplied.Greatest Halo ever made
Again no evidence. I won't argue this with you. I would not conform to you and arc fallacies. Appealing to common sense, taking about intuition when we have evidence.
It's also possible that Boruto's referring to the fact that the energy "never runs out" so long as the planet keeps spinning, which he's mentioned in the Code altercation, but I digress. You've pretty much said it better than I could've.
You got my other post too son.
Lol, I'm counting your fallacies all I see are fallacies. I'm about to eat this. Talking about son.
I will explain the fallacies later but go on accusing me of what you know not about.
cook that fraud
Make the thread.
All I can say is.....
@AKM sama defend yourself
Argument from ignorance
That just isn’t our argument. We are arguing that because Boruto didn’t find them pertinent enough to mention as opposed to referencing the planet’s energy, that they likely are not a significant aspect to the jutsu. This is very much a logically reasoned conclusion. The reason Boruto is explaining the jutsu to his allies is such that they can gain an understanding of the jutsu, as the reason anyone explains anything is to grant the person receiving the explanation an understanding of whatever is being explained. So, when Boruto intentionally leaves out the other forces in his explanation towards allies that he has no reason to withhold pertinent information and lie to, we can logically reason that those unnamed forces aren’t relevant to the jutsu. Hence the essence of the abduction argument. By taking this known and unknown information we are able to piece together a conclusion irrespective of the whole picture, that is most likely to be true. It is not an argument from ignorance because it inherently addresses the information that we the audience are ignorant of and substantiates a likely interpretation of the information we do know, again this is an abduction argument.
We aren’t appealing to abduction without explaining how we abductively reasoned our conclusion. We’ve laid out several times the logic that leads to our conclusion, logic that you have yet to refute or even address. You are simply attempting to shift the burden away from you, as you have not substantiated a single one of your claims, and are blatantly dodging our arguments. You’re comprising the dialectic by refusing to engage in meaningful debate, and if you intend to continue doing so, I’ll accept the concession via burden of the rejoinder.
I'm sorry, what did I miss?
I love the facts that we all have different interpretation. So tell me why yours or arc should be the conclusive one?
Strawman
Now you're the one appealing to ignorance.
We’ve been telling you why our conclusion is superior to yours this entire time bruh.
This is just a bunch of equivocations, or in simpler terms a bunch of unsubstantiated claims. Repeating yourself doesn’t make your claim correct.
Good.
Why is it more likely that the limitless statement is attributed to the unnamed forces as opposed to the interpretation I provided? Once again all you are doing is positing unsubstantiated claims. Saying something can be X does not prove it is most likely X.
We can debate about the ETSO if you want. I doubt you can provide a coherent argument for why anyone scales to the ETSO. Uzuhiko doesn’t add chakra to anything, it’s explicitly stated to not be chakra but literally the raw energy of the planet. All these chakra additions being non linear just doesn’t apply here since Uzuhiko doesn’t absorb any planet chakra, it only absorbs the raw energy.
Occam’s Razor. The simplest conclusion born from the least amount of assumptions is that additions functions like addition is defined to intrinsically. If you wish to argue otherwise you need to fulfill that burden. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and the claim that addition of energy is exponential is by far the less logical and more extraordinary claim.
I will reply to this soon. However, this Is dishonest. I told you I was busy and I would address the arguments. It is one thing to argue with you, it is another to argue with you, the slayer and the deceiver while working.
Also, he doesn't need to prove any of those things to you. He never made the claim that Uzuhiko is higher than 5-B, or lower, or that it's hard capped at 5-B.
I never said you can’t take your time. Take all the time you want, but in every post you’ve made you’ve yet to substantiate a single claim or refute a single argument from my or slayer’s position
“I urge to revisit Arc's last post, as he puts it really well”
