Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Deceived3596]

Greatest Halo ever made

the deceiver

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

the slayer and the deceiver

Damn, dude be referring to Slayer and Deceived like they be characters in DOOM

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Lex is getting rat packed by the goon squad it’s tragic

1. Cause we have evidence to prove my claim order than your claim. Eg, more unknown forces, slayers point of absorbing energy from a continually spinning planet, Boruto charkra + planet energy= not acting as 1+1?

Why does any of that support your claim? You’ve yet to provide any kind of argument as to why the unknown forces are relevant. Slayers point is in support of my argument not yours lmao. The planet having semi-perpetual spin doesn’t mean anything for it being 1 + 1. I urge you to explain why something like the planet spinning for a long time disproves linear addition.

2. While Uzuhiko uses the raw energy of the planet, that doesn’t rule out that they might be complex interactions between this energy. Just because it’s not strictly chakra doesn’t mean the energy doesn’t interact in a way that could enhance Uzuhiko’s power beyond a simple sum.

You’re equivocating again. You’re positing possibilities without actually proving why they’re substantial. Do you know what the words posit, possibility, and substantial mean? Like do you understand what I’m saying when I speak to you?

3. Simpler explanations are preferred I don't disagree, but only when they adequately explain the situation. If there's evidence or context suggesting that energy interactions are more complex, then dismissing it because it's "extraordinary" overlooks how energy combinations often work in fictional settings.

What evidence is there that the addition of raw energy with Uzuhiko is a non linear amp. Again I can grant you this claim and it means nothing unless you provide argumentation against the linear amp and refute my argument.

4. Suggesting that energy interactions could be non-linear isn’t an extraordinary claim if supported by narrative context. The fact that you’re framing this as a burden shift misses the point: it’s about exploring how these energies combine and the implications for power scaling. In your word the verse is currently limited to 5b because of Uzuhiko

What context for the Uzuhiko exists to indicate it’s not linear? You’re presupposing axioms that I simply have not granted. I agree that if there’s evidence that an amp isn’t linear then it isn’t linear. But self evidently by my argumentation I don’t agree that evidence exists for Uzuhiko.

5. Moving the Goalpost. Arc’s motto ” fallacies are a part of me, I can't do without them”

Prove I moved the goalpost.

GG “son”

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Lex is getting rat packed by the goon squad it’s tragic

Like do you understand what I’m saying when I speak to you?

Arc really hit them with:

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Well tbf language barriers are rough so maybe sumn is getting lost in translation.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Schizo Nerdo theory time: Hagoromo and Hamura aren't actually brothers and Ashura is actually Hamura's son. In fact, Isshiki is Hamura's father. In actuality, the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura are actually all gay lovers. This means that when Madara told Hashirama that he wanted his wood, he meant it. Also, the fujoshis have Koji's Shinjutsu, they saw the possible future where NaruSasu was canon. Kishimoto gave the fandom hints this whole time also.
Sorry, I'll go back to r/dankruto now.

 

[Samlex1234]

This isn’t relevant to the argument. Boruto doesn’t add other chakra to the Uzuhiko, it’s his normal Rasengan chakra + planet energy.


Sage mode isn’t a valid counter example nature energy and orbit energy aren’t the same. I can dismiss your claim that they’re not linear with the claim that they are, under equal interpretations. Furthermore, read my earlier posts I provided an argument why it’s more likely to be linear. Stop repeating “prove it” and actually read and respond to my proofs.


I don’t need to prove anything regarding nature energy since Boruto isn’t using senjutsu. He’s using the forces of orbit and rotation. This entire point of yours is one giant non sequitur. Start addressing my actual arguments instead of ducking. Stop compromising the dialectic by refusing to engage in debate, you keep ignoring my posts that provide proof and just repeat “prove it”. You’re getting son’d by the burden of rejoinder.

U don't read?
No that is not it, you read but your understanding is darkened and your interpretation is flawed.

Who said nature energy. I said the nature of the energies interacting.

Who ever said it functions like Sage mode? Sage mode or any other chakra is an example of how energies in fiction are not always one plus one, superman uses solar energy does not mean is star level or even solar system level.

My point I repeat for the 100th time

You can't interpret Boruto chakra + planet chakra as 1+1

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

This means that when Madara told Hashirama that he wanted his wood, he meant it.

Related or not, he still wanted that WooD

Kishimoto gave the fandom hints this whole time also.

We've seen that before we are the new pics?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

U don't read?
No that is not it, you read but your understanding is darkened and your interpretation is flawed.

Who said nature energy. I said the nature of the energies interacting.

Who ever said it functions like Sage mode? Sage mode or any other chakra is an example of how energies in fiction are not always one plus one, superman uses solar energy does not mean is star level or even solar system level.

My point I repeat for the 100th time

You can't interpret Boruto chakra + planet chakra as 1+1

Brother cheese you quite literally have brought up Sage mode multiple times, would you like me to quote it?

Also I don’t care if you can’t interpret Boruto chakra + planet chakra as 1 + 1 since Uzuhiko doesn’t use planet chakra. It uses planet energy, and I’ve yet to see you address my argument for why planet energy addition is 1 to 1.

 

[Samlex1234]

Arc really hit them with:

Would you not love if a man can think for himself.
Oh Arc
Oh Arc
Oh Arc.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

We've seen that before we are the new pics?

idk, i found it on twitter

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Would you not love if a man can think for himself.
Oh Arc
Oh Arc
Oh Arc.

Bro out here moaning my name, calm down. We can set up a vc debate too if that’s more your speed.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Would you not love if a man can think for himself.
Oh Arc
Oh Arc
Oh Arc.

Gonna go cry? This time about the biased Supporters?

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Brother cheese

This is literally the greatest phrase ever, thanks for this.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

This is literally the greatest phrase ever, thanks for this.

Thank Deceived’s dad, I cannot take credit for your thanks.

 

[Samlex1234]

Gonna go cry? This time about the biased Supporters?

No, I have come to the conclusion that everyone has some form of bias for something they cherish. Its humann. This is a VS battles wiki we debate how strong characters are and we have scaling for the same purpose of course people are biased. The reason we have this wiki is to give people the opportunity to scale and debate with their favourite characters if they have adequate evidence. Do I believe you are biased yes I do, I am too, however evidence is what brings sense to our nonsense.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

No, I have come to the conclusion that everyone has some form of bias for something they cherish. Its humann. This is a VS battles wiki we debate how strong characters are and we have scaling for the same purpose of course people are biased. The reason we have this wiki is to give people the opportunity to scale and debate with their favourite characters if they have adequate evidence. Do I believe you are biased yes I do, I am too, however evidence is what brings sense to our nonsense.

I’m not biased

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Bias is a social construct, Naruto fans don't go outside (jk) and thus are never social. We have developed a resistance to bias.

 

[Samlex1234]

I’m not biased

I know even you don't believe that. You've spent a big chunk of your life at least 4 years of your lifetime trying to upscale the bleach verse, with arguments upon argument, hours upon hours, days upon days even years my son. Why do you do all this if I may ask? Just to look at the profile and smile at it. No, you do it to power scale.

Let Boruto/Naruto fans stop thinking Arc would save you somehow, he will give you planetary only to find the loophole and downgrade it, give you moon level only to make bleach Universal. It is the circle of things this is Vs Battle Wiki. If you want to do anything do it yourself. I see nonsense like Arc giveth and Arc taketh away, lol who decides that?

 

[MasqueTLDF]

I know even you don't believe that. You've spent a big chunk of your life at least 4 years of your lifetime trying to upscale the bleach verse, with arguments upon argument, hours upon hours, days upon days even years my son. Why do you do all this if I may ask? Just to look at the profile and smile at it. No, you do it to power scale.

Let Boruto/Naruto fans stop thinking Arc would save you somehow, he will give you planetary only to find the loophole and downgrade it, give you moon level only to make bleach Universal. It is the circle of things this is Vs Battle Wiki. If you want to do anything do it yourself. I see nonsense like Arc giveth and Arc taketh away, lol who decides that?

lmao

 

[Deceived3596]

who decides that?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I know even you don't believe that. You've spent a big chunk of your life at least 4 years of your lifetime trying to upscale the bleach verse, with arguments upon argument, hours upon hours, days upon days even years my son. Why do you do all this if I may ask? Just to look at the profile and smile at it. No, you do it to power scale.

Let Boruto/Naruto fans stop thinking Arc would save you somehow, he will give you planetary only to find the loophole and downgrade it, give you moon level only to make bleach Universal. It is the circle of things this is Vs Battle Wiki. If you want to do anything do it yourself. I see nonsense like Arc giveth and Arc taketh away, lol who decides that?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Well tbf language barriers are rough so maybe sumn is getting lost in translation.

Still think it's a language barrier problem

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Bro got slammed, dodged the vc debate, and is dropping the escanor quote like this is anime

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Schizo Nerdo theory time: Hagoromo and Hamura aren't actually brothers and Ashura is actually Hamura's son. In fact, Isshiki is Hamura's father. In actuality, the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura are actually all gay lovers. This means that when Madara told Hashirama that he wanted his wood, he meant it. Also, the fujoshis have Koji's Shinjutsu, they saw the possible future where NaruSasu was canon. Kishimoto gave the fandom hints this whole time also.
Sorry, I'll go back to r/dankruto now.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Maybe they're an anime character that got isekai'd to the real world, that would be pretty sugoi desu

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Bro got slammed, dodged the vc debate, and is dropping the escanor quote like this is anime

Must be an 2021 MRK thing

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Can’t wait to see lil bro put his money where his mouth is and “upgrade Boruto himself instead of relying on Arc”

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Maybe they're an anime character that got isekai'd to the real world, that would be pretty sugoi desu

Sucks to be us then since we have to deal with them

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Can’t wait to see lil bro put his money where his mouth is and “upgrade Boruto himself instead of relying on Arc”

Low 2-C Boruto upscaling from Kaguya thread incoming

 

[ssgengar]

What are yall thoughts on Sasuke also getting stronger during the TS? In the skirmish with Code where he’s holding his eye Sasuke is visibly roughed up. So it’s unlikely that he just caught Code off guard and more likely that there was at least a brief exchange where Sasuke was able to damage Code right before the panel we saw

Not tryna use it to upgrade him or anything though it’s just a thought

 

[Aernasilver]

Not to suck off Arc, but if Bleach has something that would downgrade it you bet this motherlover would be the first to do it.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Not to suck off Arc, but if Bleach has something that would downgrade it you bet this motherlover would be the first to do it.

Thanks for the suck off

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

What are yall thoughts on Sasuke also getting stronger during the TS?

Might be possible due to him training Boruto in Swordsmanship, and other physical activities.

 

[Samlex1234]

Can’t wait to see lil bro put his money where his mouth is and “upgrade Boruto himself instead of relying on Arc”

I literally created a CRT sometime last week that has no bearing on the scaling. Literally to change a misinformation that has been on the verse for over 3 years now. I begged The slayer he saw my chats and ignored it up until now( He can do whatever he wants ). You create a CRT and whew at least 4 mods are present. I know where I scale the verse to whether or not it reflects on this wiki is not my concern anymore.

My hope is, for any one that wants to keep upgrading the verse, get That bleach fans-shackle/Yoke of your neck first and do things yourself.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I literally created a CRT sometime last week that has no bearing on the scaling. Literally to change a misinformation that has been on the verse for over 3 years now. I begged The slayer he saw my chats and ignored it up until now( He can do whatever he wants ). You create a CRT and whew at least 4 mods are present. I know where I scale the verse to whether or not it reflects on this wiki is not my concern anymore.

My hope is, for any one that wants to keep upgrading the verse, get That bleach fans-shackle/Yoke of your neck first and do things yourself.

Skill issue. Link the thread

 

[Robo432343]

I literally created a CRT sometime last week that has no bearing on the scaling. Literally to change a misinformation that has been on the verse for over 3 years now. I begged The slayer he saw my chats and ignored it up until now( He can do whatever he wants ). You create a CRT and whew at least 4 mods are present. I know where I scale the verse to whether or not it reflects on this wiki is not my concern anymore.

My hope is, for any one that wants to keep upgrading the verse, get That bleach fans-shackle/Yoke of your neck first and do things yourself.

I am Sasuke Uchiha. I plan to get revenge on my brother Itachi for murdering my entire clan. I don't know why I'm telling you this…

Sasuke finally turns around to meet your eye. He looks completely uninterested in talking to you right now.

Anyway, what are you doing here with me? You're a loser.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Robo shut yo schizo ahh up

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I think Arc and I have a proven track record of not being biased when engaging on the wiki in any official capacity. That's not to say I don't have biases, and even things I disagree with on the wiki. Anyone who knows me knows I have some whacky opinions, but that doesn't mean I let it get in the way of what needs to be done here. And I can assure ya'll, Arc is the same. He's the last person ya'll should call biased, especially not against the verse...