Look at it this way.
Present an argument for why he should be above 2C
Boruto won’t “arrive” to that future
Not necessarily because he's viewing a different Boruto's possible future, not the current Boruto's future that'll come to pass. At least that's how I sorta understood it. He's looking at different possibilities for the future (aka different timelines), not necessarily how their own future will play out.
There's literally no reason to assume Shibai is even 2-C to begin with given the information we currently have. I'm not saying he can't be that high, or even higher, but based on what we have now? Nah.
Yeah but that would be a bootstrap paradox would it not?
Yes but the old one vanishes. So basically the info about the jutsu effectively came from thin air.
MCU follows MWI so it wouldn't have that issue. In Boruto, the way it's explained, possibilities vanish. So the source will eventually vanish. Causing a bootstrap paradox.
it doesnt take much, Code downs a bottle everyday
We basically have confirmation (unless the translations are incorrect) that the dimension Amado was talking about isn't a mathematical one, rather a completely separate dimension. When Momoshiki confirms Amado's statements he says that Shibai is no longer in this dimension. Someone who becomes 4D doesn't just leave the preexisting 3 Dimensions. So most likely Amado was talking about a separate dimension like pure lands or sumn.
nuh uhhh!!!!
Not necessarily. So long as Boruto still has the capacity for those Jutsu, it wouldn’t create a paradox.
Yes but in the new futures he learned it from KK. That creates a Bootstrap Paradox tho.
Sure. But information paradoxes exist.
This works if there are separate physical concurrent timelines. Boruto doesn't have this. That would be MWI.
Didnt care enough to check so far, but did anyone see what the raws say in the place where Momoshiki says that Shibai is no longer in their dimension in the English translation? I know some people were making a fuss about Amado using the word jigen when he described his ascension and saying that means hes a legit higher dimensional being, but did Momoshiki use jikūkan (time-space)?
The way Koji explained it, it sounds like Multiple Branches exist until the timeline selects a Branch. This would ironically erase an infinite amount of branches while creating an infinite amount of branches at the same time
I don't think fake Rinnegan are as powerful as real Rinnegan even taking Limbo aside, there's a reason there was so much emphasis placed on how Madara shouldn't get back his other Rinnegan, despite Obito not knowing Limbo. I also think Edo Madara~>Edo Hashirama as he got immobilizing rods in Hashirama's back that he just elected not to use until he revived
I mean he says Amado is right in response to him saying he attained higher dimensional existence so I wouldn't say that debunks it. Left the dimension can also mean leaving because he transcended to a higher one.
I think it's just that Koji's ability is outside these normal rules of time in that all possibilities that could've happened but didn't remain in his brain
They are possibilities I think. If they were actual physical timelines, then every action would effectively be a genocide destroying entire universes.The way Koji explained it, it sounds like Multiple Branches exist until the timeline selects a Branch. This would ironically erase an infinite amount of branches while creating an infinite amount of branches at the same time
Koji did allude to it by saying "No contradictions. Believe it!" Prolly the only thing I dislike in this godly chapter.**** it… Prescience gives Koji Resistance to Time Paradoxs.
That was such a Big D, Giga brain move from Chadara.
For this to happen (And it could be happening in the future), there has to be a second time axis that stores the history and information of all the possibilities.
I think we still have a lot to learn about the cosmology, so it's entirely possible that all of these issues will be squared away naturally in the future.
For sure. I am just bouncing off ideas and asking questions to form my own position. The manga isn't over and it can easily answer my questions in the future. I'm just impatient asf.
Hey, I get it lol. It doesn't help that we may have to wait years to find out the answers given how horrendous the pacing is.
**** me. I am finished. My grand kids can prolly figure it out when they get the next bit of info abt this.
Thanks, I didn't know abt the japanese wording. Just to clarify, is it like Shibai went to a separate dimension but that dimension could be 4D(spatially)? If we take it at face value that is.
I'm not quite sure if this is sarcasm but I believe it's not?
Mayb there is. Maybe Koji's brain is the second time axis
Lol. Koji is literally the big brain meme now.
Yup yup, I know. Just curious about what Momoshiki said in Japanese when he said that Shibai is no longer in their dimension. Momoshiki saying that Shibai left the jikūkan or time-space (what we usually call dimensions in Naruto and what is used to describe Kaguyas dimensions, the Kamui dimension, etc.) seems unlikely when Amado described Shibai using a different term that more so points to a higher spatial dimension in the very chapter before that. If Momoshiki also used the mathematical wording for dimension, what exactly did he say?
Nah, I mean it. It's pretty badass that Madara was so confident in his revival plan panning out that he held out on using his winning move against Hashirama.
Shibai dumps on Clorox. Shut up.
Wouldnt Many Worlds mean that there are infinite timelines that physically exist? I dont think Koji implied thats how it works in the verse but I might be confused.
