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To be fair, I was in denial at that point and lacked the knowledge I do now, I'm perfectly fine with Tier 5 Naruto characters and don't mind Tier 4 so long as that got it. Heck I don't mind Tier 2 Naruto, as I have two of my favorite verses at that level (DP might get to Tier 1/Low 1-C if the current revision is accepted) but it's not really about the tier for me, heck before the graphic novel and the USE system thread, I was legitimately in the middle of downgrading Danny Phantom (my favorite and most worked on verse) to 9-A because that's their feat level without UES scaling their higher feats.

In the end, if you can solidly prove they are higher, I'd agree. It's just the higher you go, the stronger the evidence you need. Danny Phantom and WITCH have multiple tier 3/2 feats and statements that would be illogical to deny as they literally show them so with statements it was a given. If you got the feats, I'm down with an upgrade. No one is keeping Naruto down, at least not by some impossible standard, just by their own evidence as most normal users and staff who contribute to Naruto threads actually like Naruto, as evident by the staff who outright choose not to get involved, proving they have no biased or interest due to how crazy they can get from the supporters themselves. Do you think people want to get called a downplayer constantly just for giving an opinion.
Honestly, Griffin, I know I used your past as an example, but I also recognize that your stance has changed over time. I don’t even think we disagree as much anymore. That said, I still don’t agree with the idea that some people genuinely care about being called ‘downplayers.’ If you check every god-tier upgrade CRT discussion Damage has participated in, there’s an 80% chance he disagreed with almost everything(sometimes he has no counter he would still wait for another mod that disagrees just to side with them lol). So, it’s clear that a few people aren’t really bothered by those labels.
 
nice job to who created the shibai profile, so while reading through his intrinsic/shinjutsu part of his abilites, i thought since there are shinjutsu forms of all elements in the naruto/boruto verse, which ninjutsu attempts to imitate or replicate, can't we scale his lightning and storm related abilites above every ninjutsu version of it in Naruto/boruto in all metrics?.
 
Why does he have Genjutsu Nullification and Surface Scaling & Water Walking?
 
Why does he have Genjutsu Nullification and Surface Scaling & Water Walking?
bc even an ADHD spiky-haired goofy ball with 0 chakra control can use chakra to walk on water and scale things, let alone an Otsutsuki.

and GJ null is just disrupting your life force, something any chunin level person can do, let alone the God that can use all natural elements with no hand signs, warp reality, and create god abilities.
 
nice job to who created the shibai profile, so while reading through his intrinsic/shinjutsu part of his abilites, i thought since there are shinjutsu forms of all elements in the naruto/boruto verse, which ninjutsu attempts to imitate or replicate, can't we scale his lightning and storm related abilites above every ninjutsu version of it in Naruto/boruto in all metrics?.
Not to sure about that last part given some jutsu are designed differently. Power/speed wise I guess but some aspects maybe not.
 
Dark Mother a tall baddie/mommy who is actually on panel and got feats GG.
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Someone once said:

“First and foremost, not being explicitly shown something is not evidence of said something not being true. Especially when you consider that the reason we only get perspectives from the planets is because we are focusing on the perspectives of characters, characters which aren’t floating in outer space.”
 
 
Someone once said:

“First and foremost, not being explicitly shown something is not evidence of said something not being true. Especially when you consider that the reason we only get perspectives from the planets is because we are focusing on the perspectives of characters, characters which aren’t floating in outer space.”
Fire quote, that’s just factual
 
You're still referring him as a human. Just change it to mortal.
 
we got the shibai profile before two blue boruto lmfao
 
Someone once said:

“First and foremost, not being explicitly shown something is not evidence of said something not being true. Especially when you consider that the reason we only get perspectives from the planets is because we are focusing on the perspectives of characters, characters which aren’t floating in outer space.”
Just put the ramen in the bag lil bro, I ain't trying to hear all that.
 
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