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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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HelloThere1089
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From what I'm seeing, there is no confirmation for MWI. Those are all possible futures. MWI requires physical universes to combat the quantum superposition issue. Unless I'm misinterpreting something. Don't get me wrong it could still end up being MWI, but the way it's currently explained make it sound like they're just possible futures.
MinatoSparkle
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just means that his no longer in the present world as we know it, you can become HDE and still leave the physical world (most fictional series treat it differently)
Tdjwo
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Suck ma ballz
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Shibai being a literal HDE (4D) being is certainly an equivocal claim. Like it is very much a possible interpretation, and given how he has abilities like Prescience, which grant him a 4D perception, I wouldn't be surprised if he did eventually end up as tier 2. However, right now there's just no solid supporting evidence to dial in on a most likely interpretation for what occurred to Shibai when he transcended, outside the fact that he's super strong and left his physical body. He'll probably be the Fudo Myo'o of the Naruto verse ngl, but until we get more information y'all are gonna have to be happy with Deceived and I slapping 4-C on him.
Tdjwo
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Trust the process. One day. Once we get rid of these Clorox goons aka Arc7bleachdrider.
Tdjwo
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Ok on a serious note, do we now agree that the verse is around multiversal level cosmology-wise?
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I personally think it's fine to say that there are countless timelines in the Naruto/Boruto broader universe (2-B to 2-A). It's not doing anything for the verse outside of give Shibai and Koji 2-B to 2-A precog, but yeah I think it's fine. I do think you can be skeptical about the vernacular utilized, "future possibilities" referring to possibilities and not actual timelines, and Koji referencing a timeline paradox just meaning he isn't ******* up the timeline they exist in, but atm I feel like that's needlessly pedantic.
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So what “is” accepted about Omnipotence as far as the wiki goes?
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- Omnipotence:
- Passive Reality Warping (Ada possesses a derived version of Shibai's Omnipotence Shinjutsu which is beyond her conscious control, but subsconsciously she has used it to create an empathic power that enchants people in her presence, and Kawaki has used it via Ada to alter the memories of humanity on a global scale[7].Omnipotence the true nature of Ada's Charm, triggered by the desire to be loved, Ada cannot control this ability like her charm and her subconscious desires are automatically triggered and become to reality.)
- Passive Memory Manipulation (Ada is capable of altering people's memories through linked chakra, with the exception of herself, Otsutsuki's and certain individuals who are immune for unknown reasons[7]. However Ada has shown no conscious control over this ability. Concept Of Omnipotence protects Ada's desire, even if there is physical evidence, Concept Of Omnipotence will not allow them to accept physical reality, if someone remembers, Concept Of Omnipotence will be triggered and their memories will rewrite)
- Passive Empathic Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement & Limited Durability Negation (Ada's very presence instantly enchants all around her, both men and women, into becoming completely captivated with her. Her influence affects those around her on an instinctual, unconscious level[8] so that they are left unable to harm her[9][8] or resist her commands[10]. Trying to resist her control will lead to a variety of afflictions: vertigo, fever, headaches, as well as other issues[8] and can inevitably lead to mind damage to those who try to resist it[8]. She has no control over this ability, and the effect lasts until she dies[8])
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Damn, I didn’t know Eida had a completed Pf.
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anime or manga
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The manga just won the battle royal of fatethe anime is just another timeline that very closely follows the events of what's happening in the manga, but for some reason that timeline ceased to exist after the Code arc
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because the manga does not have the SHibai Slayer cho cho scaling, so it never had a timeline where earth was in troublethe anime is just another timeline that very closely follows the events of what's happening in the manga, but for some reason that timeline ceased to exist after the Code arc
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fate saw the anime glazing Butterfly Chocho, and had to cut things short.The manga just won the battle royal of fate
they didn't want to see her surpass Shibai.
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Kashin Koji still saw the future in his past, he didn't go back from the future to give himself that jutsu.
HelloThere1089
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That's still an information paradox. Because the source of the information will vanish as if it never happened. It doesn't matter if it is in KK's memory. The timeline itself doesn't exist after some point. This is assuming the verse isn't MWI.
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I could
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Good thing Kashin Koji will still have seen Boruto explaining his jutsu to everyone whenever he uses it.
HelloThere1089
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I'm assuming this is a joke. If so then lol.
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Joke, but real
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No you can't.
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My argument is that it would be pretty cool i think
HelloThere1089
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I still can't tell tbh. But just in case you're not joking. That wouldn't solve the problem.
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Still don't believe the problem exists. Kashin Koji isn't going to forget visions of the future he already saw.
HelloThere1089
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That's because that is not the problem I'm describing. I'm not saying KK is gonna forget anything. But even if he remembers that the jutsu exists, the source of that information, i.e. the timeline is gonna vanish at some point. So after that point in time, the information basically came into KK's mind out of nowhere because that future timeline never actually existed. That creates an information paradox.
You can trace it like this:
Boruto knows x jutsu in the year 15 and learned it from Konohamaru who invented it in that year. Let's call this possible timeline A.
KK sees that future in the main timeline in year 10 and teaches it to Boruto.
Timeline A doesn't exist anymore. It never happened at all. Main timeline reaches year 15 but Konohamaru dies before that.
So now where did the information of jutsu x come from? Sure KK remembers it, but the future he saw never actually existed. Only one timeline exists here physically. So the source of that information never actually became a reality. This causes an information paradox in my head.
Idk if I was able to explain it well. Also all of this is assuming MWI doesn't exist in Boruto.
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