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Quite literally, the Shinju's head game is out of this world.
Even War Arc Shinju got that Gwak Gwak 3000 and Hawk Tuah
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Since my last discussion was inconclusive, let's move on to round 2:

Resurrected Post-Edo Madara(2 Rinnegan) and Izuna Uchiha vs Alive Hashirama and Tobirama
I am now developing an obsession with continuing this until it becomes a fair fight.

Resurrected Madara(given 2 Rinnegan, presuming 1 Limbo Clone)
Izuna Uchiha
WM Obito(No Bijuu)

vs

Alive Hashirama
Alive Tobirama
Tobirama's 6-man squad(prime, no Moon Level Hiruzen)
 
I am now developing an obsession with continuing this until it becomes a fair fight.

Resurrected Madara(given 2 Rinnegan, presuming 1 Limbo Clone)
Izuna Uchiha
WM Obito(No Bijuu)

vs

Alive Hashirama
Alive Tobirama
Tobirama's 6-man squad(prime, no Moon Level Hiruzen)
How does giving Madara another super busted teammate like Obito make this more fair when Madara already high-key stomps on his own? 😭
 
Why the obsessesion with Limbo tho? Just restrict that and this fight would immediately become way better.

Izuna dies seeing Tobirama since Tobirama is an Anti Izuna Buff

Madara and Hashirama go 1v1. Ends in seggs Madara beating Hashirama but getting penetrated from behind since that's his weakness

Obito ***** around with Tobirama's squad then stabs them with his long hard wood

Obito and Tobirama play space-time ninja tag, Tobirama goes infinite boom since he already knows Obito's Kamui's weakness

Conclusion: Young Hiruzen with Enma stomps everyone
 
I am now developing an obsession with continuing this until it becomes a fair fight.

Resurrected Madara(given 2 Rinnegan, presuming 1 Limbo Clone)
Izuna Uchiha
WM Obito(No Bijuu)

vs

Alive Hashirama
Alive Tobirama
Tobirama's 6-man squad(prime, no Moon Level Hiruzen)
Since apparently an invincible, invisible, and intangible clone of Madara that can easily kill everyone on here makes it way to easy for Madara to win, and I can't give everyone Limbo because that would be stupid, I will have to do this bit:



Resurrected Madara(given 2 Rinnegan, no Limbo)
Izuna Uchiha
WM Obito(With Jinchuuriki, but they're alive)

vs

Alive Hashirama
Alive Tobirama
Tobirama's 6-man squad(each is in their prime, Hiruzen is not 5-C, Kagami's ">Shisui" statement from the anime is included if you want)
 
Why is this disclaimer necessary....? 👀
You haven't been here in a while, allow me to explain.

-First and foremost was a joke about how Konohamaru would defeat his Shinju enemy with Monkey Sage Mode and then say he'd finally surpassed his grandfather.
-We made some Moon Level Hiruzen jokes
-I later made a joke about Orochimaru saying the Sannin used to dodge light all the time back in the day
-Someone said "back when we used to be Moon Level"
-It continues from there.
 
You haven't been here in a while, allow me to explain.

-First and foremost was a joke about how Konohamaru would defeat his Shinju enemy with Monkey Sage Mode and then say he'd finally surpassed his grandfather.
-We made some Moon Level Hiruzen jokes
-I later made a joke about Orochimaru saying the Sannin used to dodge light all the time back in the day
-Someone said "back when we used to be Moon Level"
-It continues from there.
I hate all of you with a passion. 😭 I see.
 
I still think Part 1 Orochimaru with a month's prep time and prior knowledge on the Rinnegan invading the Hidden Rain should've beaten Pain in that matchup.
 
Since apparently an invincible, invisible, and intangible clone of Madara that can easily kill everyone on here makes it way to easy for Madara to win, and I can't give everyone Limbo because that would be stupid, I will have to do this bit:



Resurrected Madara(given 2 Rinnegan, no Limbo)
Izuna Uchiha
WM Obito(With Jinchuuriki, but they're alive)

vs

Alive Hashirama
Alive Tobirama
Tobirama's 6-man squad(each is in their prime, Hiruzen is not 5-C, Kagami's ">Shisui" statement from the anime is included if you want)
The Uchihas prolly win high diff. EMS Madara was already close to Hashirama. Given that the Rinnegan based on narrative and other scalings is likely a bigger boost, and the broken Rinnegan abilities and Mokuton, he should beat Hashirama eventually.

Izuna loses to Tobirama, but the difficulty depends on how much Tobirama improved after the Warring States Era, which is a bit unknown. Either way, the result of their battle probably isn't that important since they're the weakest members of their teams.

Obito should beat Tobirama's squad. Hiruzen and Danzo are the only ones with any scaling. Danzo is an MS Sasuke victim so he's getting destroyed (not sure if he could even Izanagi back from the Kamui dimension since that doesn't hurt him), and while Prime Hiruzen's higher metas get him above Obito, I think him just being vaguely Tobirama level+ is the most consistent, which isn't enough to put him above Obito.
 
Obito should beat Tobirama's squad. Hiruzen and Danzo are the only ones with any scaling.
I still believe in my GOAT Kagami. If one of his teammates gets dropped, he could probably awaken MS.
Danzo is an MS Sasuke victim so he's getting destroyed (not sure if he could even Izanagi back from the Kamui dimension since that doesn't hurt him), and while Prime Hiruzen's higher metas get him above Obito, I think him just being vaguely Tobirama level+ is the most consistent, which isn't enough to put him above Obito.
Wait, how is being stronger than Tobirama not enough to put him over Obito? Is it... Minato scaling?
 
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