Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[MinatoSparkle]

I was talking about where Kawaki kills Boruto and Code later kills him & destroyed the World.

Me too?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Me too?

Actually wait. Now I checked the scan again. Most likely your interpretation is right. Version of Kawaki wasn't specified

 

[RenderGK]

point

 

[karo_senpaii]

That's because that is not the problem I'm describing. I'm not saying KK is gonna forget anything. But even if he remembers that the jutsu exists, the source of that information, i.e. the timeline is gonna vanish at some point. So after that point in time, the information basically came into KK's mind out of nowhere because that future timeline never actually existed. That creates an information paradox.

You can trace it like this:

Boruto knows x jutsu in the year 15 and learned it from Konohamaru who invented it in that year. Let's call this possible timeline A.
KK sees that future in the main timeline in year 10 and teaches it to Boruto.
Timeline A doesn't exist anymore. It never happened at all. Main timeline reaches year 15 but Konohamaru dies before that.
So now where did the information of jutsu x come from? Sure KK remembers it, but the future he saw never actually existed. Only one timeline exists here physically. So the source of that information never actually became a reality. This causes an information paradox in my head.

Idk if I was able to explain it well. Also all of this is assuming MWI doesn't exist in Boruto.

acasuality KK?

 

[HelloThere1089]

acasuality KK?

I don't know. It's more likely that KK's statement about there being no contradictions hint that there is something we don't know yet that might be revealed later. Maybe it is MWI and when KK says narratives get snuffed out, he meant they are not available anymore for their timeline, but they still exist physically. That would solve any and all paradoxes.

 

[RanaProGamer]

Do we assume characters are changing their futures or are simply hoping from one possible future to another?

 

[HelloThere1089]

Do we assume characters are changing their futures or are simply hoping from one possible future to another?

I think it's more like a train switching tracks. Wouldn't hopping to futures require time travel?

 

[RanaProGamer]

I think it's more like a train switching tracks. Wouldn't hopping to futures require time travel?

When I said hopping, I didn’t mean literally, I meant switching tracks

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

you mean like ichigo style?

 

[RanaProGamer]

you mean like ichigo style?

Yeah, cuz the way KK says “take one fate we’ve already escaped” implies it’s possible for characters to “escape” their fate and follow another one cuz KK follows it up with “but there’s a sufficient likelihood it would”. And since you brought up Ichigo, this kind of goes in line with Yhwach’s “switching to another fate statement”.

 

[Samlex1234]

Shibai being a literal HDE (4D) being is certainly an equivocal claim. Like it is very much a possible interpretation, and given how he has abilities like Prescience, which grant him a 4D perception, I wouldn't be surprised if he did eventually end up as tier 2. However, right now there's just no solid supporting evidence to dial in on a most likely interpretation for what occurred to Shibai when he transcended, outside the fact that he's super strong and left his physical body. He'll probably be the Fudo Myo'o of the Naruto verse ngl, but until we get more information y'all are gonna have to be happy with Deceived and I slapping 4-C on him.

Please do not make shibai 4-c. Don’t create any account if you do not have enough information.

 

[HelloThere1089]

We do have enough info tho. He can create storms.

 

[SlendVeny]

We do have enough info tho. He can create storms.

Casually, too. I think we can get him to 6-B easily.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Casually, too. I think we can get him to 6-B easily.

He should at least be superior to Part I Tenten, so I'm thinking "Unknown. Likely 8-B" is a good place to start.

 

[karo_senpaii]

He should at least be superior to Part I Tenten, so I'm thinking "Unknown. Likely 8-B" is a good place to start.

Higher with amado and momoshiki glaze

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Higher with amado and momoshiki glaze

Umm, 'possibly higher', akshually

 

[karo_senpaii]

Umm, 'possibly higher', akshually

we have concrete glazing statements though, Momoshiki even confirmed amado glaze and expanded on it, so I think a flat-out glaze rating is justified

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

we have concrete glazing statements though, Momoshiki even confirmed amado glaze and expanded on it, so I think a flat-out glaze rating is justified

Nu-uh, chief, we gotta be as pedantic as humanly possible

 

[Samlex1234]

we have concrete glazing statements though, Momoshiki even confirmed amado glaze and expanded on it, so I think a flat-out glaze rating is justified

I don’t think they were glazing though just to clear this out. All the information we have now points to the fact that there statements are indeed factual. However if we feel the evidence are still not enough then let’s wait.

 

[HelloThere1089]

Nu-uh, chief, we gotta be as pedantic as humanly possible

10-C it is then.

 

[karo_senpaii]

I don’t think they were glazing though just to clear this out. All the information we have now points to the fact that there statements are indeed factual. However if we feel the evidence are still not enough then let’s wait.

come on man let's joke around a bit.

 

[HelloThere1089]

Speak for yourself. I'm dead serious on tier 11 Shibai.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Please do not make shibai 4-c. Don’t create any account if you do not have enough information.

Aren't you supposed to be on your self imposed ban?

 

[Samlex1234]

Aren't you supposed to be on your self imposed ban?

Honestly it been over 2 years now. I had to come back and message as soon as I heard 4c for shibai.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

thats wild

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

thats wild

Flashes Back to 2022:

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I'm bored so weird hypothetical question: If a Facehugger from Alien infected an Uchiha with functioning Sharingan, would the resulting Xenomorph have actual eyes to use them or would it lack eyes but somehow still have access to Sharingan powers?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I'm bored so weird hypothetical question: If a Facehugger from Alien infected an Uchiha with functioning Sharingan, would the resulting Xenomorph have actual eyes to use them or would it lack eyes but somehow still have access to Sharingan powers?

IIRC doesn't the growing Xenomorph take on characteristics of its host?

So it might have the possibility of developing eyes, similar to the Human Alien Hybrid from Alien 4

Though that thing was born from a Queen that was birthed from Ripley Clone

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

IIRC doesn't the growing Xenomorph take on characteristics of its host?

They do but they've never had eyes on any of them.

So it might have the possibility of developing eyes, similar to the Human Alien Hybrid from Alien 4

Though that thing was born from a Queen that was birthed from Ripley Clone

That thing is definitely the most non-standard Xenomorph imaginable.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

They do but they've never had eyes on any of them.

They might not have visible eyes though, though that depends on your take of the Alien's POV in Alien Covenant

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

They might not have visible eyes though, though that depends on your take of the Alien's POV in Alien Covenant

They have perfectly fine eyesight in the games despite not having eyes or even eyesockets on their skulls in every media, so maybe they just have some kind of replacement sensory ability. Either way, potential MS without actual eyes to ruin sounds kind of broken.

 

[Samlex1234]

Shibai just won't be Low 2-C on this site with the level of information we have for his transcendence.

Having a general statement of accruing so much power that you transcend into a higher dimension isn't enough to assume said transcendence was one that resulted in him transferring into a dimension that is mathematically higher compared to the normal Naruto world or him transcending beyond pass the 3-D existence that constructed his physical body.

Y'all can try to add it when the profile is made, but you're getting slammed on your head by DT.

Actually, you are wrong based on the information we have, It is indeed a mathematically higher dimension. However, I believe we can wait for further information.

 

[HelloThere1089]

Thoughts on literal fate stealing Code's Ws?

 

[Robo432343]

It is indeed a mathematically higher dimension.

we simply don't have enough evidence for this

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

you are wrong

 

[Deceived3596]

Actually, you are wrong based on the information we have, It is indeed a mathematically higher dimension. However, I believe we can wait for further information.

What is the evidence that supports the interpretation of the dimension being mathematically higher compared to the Naruto universe?

 

[Robo432343]

What is the evidence that supports the interpretation of the dimension being mathematically higher compared to the Naruto universe?

shibai is above this

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

What is the evidence that supports the interpretation of the dimension being mathematically higher compared to the Naruto universe?

Geh Thoughts​

 

[Samlex1234]

we simply don't have enough evidence for this

If you believe so. I don't claim to be an expert in the Japanese language however, I know that the Japanese kanji if you put it into any translator the explanation is always the same ( mathematically Higher dimension)
こうじげん
高次元の

 

[Robo432343]

If you believe so. I don't claim to be an expert in the Japanese language however, I know that the Japanese language if you put it into any translator the explanation is always the same ( mathematically Higher dimension)
こうじげん
高次元の

what
i translated it and it never said anything about a higher mathematical dimension

look at this

This statement blatantly tells us they're in fact not referring to Shibais spatial dimensions but the place he resides in

Shibai not being in their dimension most likely means he's in something comparable to the plane of existence where Limbo resides in, or comperable to the afterlife. Both of which are places (dimensions) where non physical beings reside in.

Momoshikis statement is most likely referring to Shibai reaching a place similar to the afterlife. A place where he doesn't need a physical form, but with the difference that he's still alive and can likely interact with the physical world of living.