Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Samlex1234]

The one Arc calculated

The calculation ARC provided considers the kinetic energy of Earth’s spin around its axis over 24 hours and its orbit around the Sun over 365 days. These energies are constant and persistent and will remain present for billions of years to come. However based on arc calc, while Boruto can draw as much or as little energy as he wants from these sources, we encounter a key problem: if these energies are finite, then what happens when Boruto uses a significant portion of them in one fight?

To clarify with the numbers provided:

• Earth’s rotational kinetic energy (KE):2.138e29 J
• Earth’s orbital kinetic energy (KE):2.646e33

If Boruto used all of Earth’s rotational KE in a battle against Code, then logically, the rotational KE would be depleted. How, then, would Uzuhiko work in subsequent battles? For example, if Boruto later wanted to use part of the rotational energy in a fight against Hidari, where would that energy come from if he had already used it up in the previous fight? Similarly, if Boruto used half of the Earth’s orbital KE in one battle, he would only have the remaining half available for future uses. Hope you are seeing the logic. This creates a contradiction unless we accept the conclusion that the energy source for Uzuhiko is both constant and effectively limitless:

• Constant: The energy is always present, as planetary spin and orbit are ongoing processes.

• Limitless: The energy replenishes continuously, allowing Boruto to tap into it at any time without exhausting it.

Now, if we take the concept further:

• If Uzuhiko allows Boruto to draw orbital KE repeatedly, how much can he draw in total? Is there a cap e.g., half, the full orbital KE, or an absurd amount like 20x, 500x, or even 1 million times Earth’s orbital KE ()?

Thus, Without addressing these questions, any claim about the total energy Uzuhiko can access becomes invalid because it doesn’t align with the fundamental nature of the energy source.
Ultimately, the only plausible conclusion is that Uzuhiko taps into a perpetual and replenishable energy source, making it nearly limitless. If we don't accept this implication then we might as well throw the whole thing away.

 

[Samlex1234]

Jura should just scale above the Uzuhiko given that it's heavily implied Boruto has no chance against him. At least a likely rating I feel would be warranted when his profile exists

When you say maximum Uzuhiko what does that even mean?

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Don't agree with scaling Jura about FP Uzuhiko until we see more with Jura. Jura could be far faster than Boruto, or have abilities that circumvent Uzuhiko as a whole (Flight, for example).

(Although, I wouldn't be surprised that he does scale above FP Uzuhiko. For now though, I think we should wait)

kinda funny to imagine boruto and sarada coming together to do a coop attack like naruto and sasuke to kill jura like done to juubito

and the jutsu ends up being the hyped up fp uzuhiko

 

[Samlex1234]

The calculation ARC provided considers the kinetic energy of Earth’s spin around its axis over 24 hours and its orbit around the Sun over 365 days. These energies are constant and persistent and will remain present for billions of years to come. However based on arc calc, while Boruto can draw as much or as little energy as he wants from these sources, we encounter a key problem: if these energies are finite, then what happens when Boruto uses a significant portion of them in one fight?

To clarify with the numbers provided:

• Earth’s rotational kinetic energy (KE):2.138e29 J
• Earth’s orbital kinetic energy (KE):2.646e33

If Boruto used all of Earth’s rotational KE in a battle against Code, then logically, the rotational KE would be depleted. How, then, would Uzuhiko work in subsequent battles? For example, if Boruto later wanted to use part of the rotational energy in a fight against Hidari, where would that energy come from if he had already used it up in the previous fight? Similarly, if Boruto used half of the Earth’s orbital KE in one battle, he would only have the remaining half available for future uses. Hope you are seeing the logic. This creates a contradiction unless we accept the conclusion that the energy source for Uzuhiko is both constant and effectively limitless:

• Constant: The energy is always present, as planetary spin and orbit are ongoing processes.

• Limitless: The energy replenishes continuously, allowing Boruto to tap into it at any time without exhausting it.

Now, if we take the concept further:

• If Uzuhiko allows Boruto to draw orbital KE repeatedly, how much can he draw in total? Is there a cap e.g., half, the full orbital KE, or an absurd amount like 20x, 500x, or even 1 million times Earth’s orbital KE ()?

Thus, Without addressing these questions, any claim about the total energy Uzuhiko can access becomes invalid because it doesn’t align with the fundamental nature of the energy source.
Ultimately, the only plausible conclusion is that Uzuhiko taps into a perpetual and replenishable energy source, making it nearly limitless. If we don't accept this implication then we might as well throw the whole thing away.

For anyone that doesn't want to read my long epistle. Quick summary,

This is the current calc for Maximum output for Uzhiko by Arc

Spiral Lad yield = 2.646e33 J

This energy is the orbital and Rotational KE energy that is generated over a Year however it is always constant. If we all agree that boruto can use this energy in his maximum output for Uzuhiko, what will he use for another Uzuhiko when he finishes this energy?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Jura can blitz and run circles around boruto before his eyes can register what the hell is happening that definitely is not gaining him any new ratings

we wont give characters spatial dura neg immunity if they were to be stated above shippuden kakashi, the same rule applies here

It's more than that tho, there's countless futures that Jura dog walks, so just by sheer probability, it is likely that in at least one of them, Jura tanks or clashes with a high charged Uzuhiko. And I'm sure Koji has considered stalling to allow Boruto to full charge, and if he thought that gave them good odds, he'd probably mention that.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

When you say maximum Uzuhiko what does that even mean?

My calc.

For anyone that doesn't want to read my long epistle. Quick summary,

This is the current calc for Maximum output for Uzhiko by Arc

Spiral Lad yield = 2.646e33 J

This energy is the orbital and Rotational KE energy that is generated over a Year however it is always constant. If we all agree that boruto can use this energy in his maximum output for Uzuhiko, what will he use for another Uzuhiko when he finishes this energy?

If you accept your interpretation, that means he must be using less than 10^33 joules by a significant amount.

 

[Samlex1234]

My calc.


If you accept your interpretation, that means he must be using less than 10^33 joules by a significant amount.

Then tell me how many of these is he able to use before he runs out? 6 times, 4 times or 2 times also when he runs out does that mean the Orbit and rotation of the earth are done?

Edit
By the way, I'm not the one who put the limit on how much energy he can draw, you did that. You told us the limit is 10^33 joules.

So I'm asking when he draws out this energy for a maximum Uzuhiko, where will he get the energy for the next Uzuhiko from? Or is it done is that the end of Uzuhiko, does he have to wait another year (hopefully the planet will not be in the sun by then)?

 

[Godernet]

When you say maximum Uzuhiko what does that even mean?

Pretty sure he's just talking about Uzuhiko at Full Power, which Bort just calls Maximum Output

 

[Samlex1234]

Pretty sure he's just talking about Uzuhiko at Full Power, which Bort just calls Maximum Output

I know this, my question is what exactly is the maximum output of Uzuhiko?

Edit
If you say the full power is 10^33 joule, then the follow-up question would be why? Is it because Boruto exhausted the KE, and how long would he have to wait again to use Uzuhiko again ?

 

[Godernet]

I know this, my question is what exactly is the maximum output of Uzuhiko?

there is no definitive answer to that rn

Arc's calc gave us a value for Uzuhiko in general that utilized what we currently know Uzuhiko is based on (centrifugal and rotational force) to assign it a value (600 Zettatons).

Edit
If you say the full power is 10^33 joule, then the follow-up question would be why? Is it because Boruto exhausted the KE, and how long would he have to wait again to use Uzuhiko again ?

The site usually doesn't grant charitability if there's no sound logic that beats out the other interpretations, for the sake of indexing, that value was assigned to Uzuhiko at its strongest, aka Maximum Output Uzuhiko.

This was partially due to where we currently scale the characters and based on our current understanding of Uzuhiko, in that it's only comprised of Boruto's chakra + the Planet's rotational and centrifugal energy, meaning that its highest output being at least the full yield of said energy is probably the least assumptive and most consistent route to take until more information is presented, barring arguments like "Uzuhiko doesn't use the planet chakra in its AP", which ends up being a completely different topic from just assigning a value to a jutsu.

If we get more information that makes it seem like Uzuhiko is much more than what we were initially told, then we'll just update accordingly.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

It's kinda crazy how important this statement is for scaling but no one seems to talk about it

 

[Nierre]

It's kinda crazy how important this statement is for scaling but no one seems to talk about it

how relevant would this be in scaling

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Uzuhiko tethers the opponent to that rotational energy. Boruto doesn’t steal it. That’s antithetical to his entire character, where he’s trying to find ways to fight against people who steal energy from the planet. So he’s not taking away from the planet to empower his own attacks, he’s basically enabling the planet to “punch” the enemy. He directs that energy at the opponent without stealing from the planet. He shares with and helps the planet fight back, the villains take from the planet and give nothing.

Net actually pioneered this take and gave a much better explanation in one of my Uzuhiko threads.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

how relevant would this be in scaling

Basically means that summons are always gonna be relevant no matter how strong you get cause you can amp your summons and that generally users will somewhat scale to their summons (with exceptions). There's also the fact that it makes some strange feats make more sense like the Rashomon Gates that redirected a Nine Tails Bijuudama being dented by P1 Kiba, Nagato's summons being able to combat KCM Naruto, and Gamabunta being able to temporarily restrain Kurama.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

It's more than that tho, there's countless futures that Jura dog walks, so just by sheer probability, it is likely that in at least one of them, Jura tanks or clashes with a high charged Uzuhiko. And I'm sure Koji has considered stalling to allow Boruto to full charge, and if he thought that gave them good odds, he'd probably mention that.

“I’m gonna use a hypothetical possibility to scale the real deal”


There’s a possibility where Jura nuked a galaxy with his fart, you can’t use it because it’s not provable for the current Jura, all of it is relying on poor wishful thinking
With Regards to foreseeing Boruto’s defeat, we outright see him get speed blitzed, that is a very powerful wincon for Jura, or he may have something similar to Kamui that bypasses it and makes it entirely useless
Jura could also have a ninjutsu he doesn’t come close to scaling to that hard counters uzuhiko

All of it is very strictly context dependent especially for a tier jump of this magnitude would likely require even greater amounts of irrefutability in an argument, you can’t arbitrarily assign a tier like so for a character who’s full arsenal isn’t seen on top of currently existing wincons

 

[karo_senpaii]

“I’m gonna use a hypothetical possibility to scale the real deal”


There’s a possibility where Jura nuked a galaxy with his fart, you can’t use it because it’s not provable for the current Jura, all of it is relying on poor wishful thinking
With Regards to foreseeing Boruto’s defeat, we outright see him get speed blitzed, that is a very powerful wincon for Jura, or he may have something similar to Kamui that bypasses it and makes it entirely useless
Jura could also have a ninjutsu he doesn’t come close to scaling to that hard counters uzuhiko

All of it is very strictly context dependent especially for a tier jump of this magnitude would likely require even greater amounts of irrefutability in an argument, you can’t arbitrarily assign a tier like so for a character who’s full arsenal isn’t seen on top of currently existing wincons

Not that I fully agree with arc but your analogy is really different from what he said. Possiblities depend on actions. You have to tie a specific action that will 99% happen for jura to (can't believe I'm saying this) fart a galaxy. Considering there is literally nothing in the entire media that would even slightly denote that then your analogy is whack.

On the other hand boruto using uzuhiko directly on jura is an actual possibility. I'm pretty sure you believe prescience sees countless timelines. Boruto is dead to jura is every single one except this. While the wiki doesn't take countless as truly infinite it doesn't change the fact that countless is a really large number into 2B. If boruto chances of even Landing uzuhiko is very low there would still be a chance of it landing in one of the countless timelines kinda like end game type shit where they beat Thanos 1 out of 1million+ times. But yet koji says there is no timeline that he wins. That means there is possibly a timeline where boruto lands uzuhiko and jura tanks it.

Hence the "likely or possibly".

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Not that I fully agree with arc but your analogy is really different from what he said. Possiblities depend on actions. You have to tie a specific action that will 99% happen for jura to (can't believe I'm saying this) fart a galaxy. Considering there is literally nothing in the entire media that would even slightly denote that then your analogy is whack.

On the other hand boruto using uzuhiko directly on jura is an actual possibility. I'm pretty sure you believe prescience sees countless timelines. Boruto is dead to jura is every single one except this. While the wiki doesn't take countless as truly infinite it doesn't change the fact that countless is a really large number into 2B. If boruto chances of even Landing uzuhiko is very low there would still be a chance of it landing in one of the countless timelines kinda like end game type shit where they beat Thanos 1 out of 1million+ times. But yet koji says there is no timeline that he wins. That means there is possibly a timeline where boruto lands uzuhiko and jura tanks it.

Hence the "likely or possibly".

1) its infinite no buts or ifs
2) even if it is a possibility you cant scale that timelines jura to this one, only that hypothetical jura would be as strong, not this one, there's absolutely nothing stating every possibility has characters retain the same power level, that literally contradicts the very point of infinite possibilities
3) narutos likely outer lets give him half ratings for tier 1

 

[Samlex1234]

there is no definitive answer to that rn

Arc's calc gave us a value for Uzuhiko in general that utilized what we currently know Uzuhiko is based on (centrifugal and rotational force) to assign it a value (600 Zettatons).

The site usually doesn't grant charitability if there's no sound logic that beats out the other interpretations, for the sake of indexing, that value was assigned to Uzuhiko at its strongest, aka Maximum Output Uzuhiko.

This was partially due to where we currently scale the characters and based on our current understanding of Uzuhiko, in that it's only comprised of Boruto's chakra + the Planet's rotational and centrifugal energy, meaning that its highest output being at least the full yield of said energy is probably the least assumptive and most consistent route to take until more information is presented, barring arguments like "Uzuhiko doesn't use the planet chakra in its AP", which ends up being a completely different topic from just assigning a value to a jutsu.

If we get more information that makes it seem like Uzuhiko is much more than what we were initially told, then we'll just update accordingly.

You’re still not understanding my point. I never claimed that Uzuhiko doesn’t enhance AP. My argument is that the energy source for Uzuhiko cannot be finite. If it were finite, and we agreed that the maximum energy source is only 600 zettatons, then it would impose a strict limit on how long Uzuhiko could use that energy. A finite energy source inherently means a restricted duration for its activation, which contradicts the implication of its sustained usability.

 

[Samlex1234]

Uzuhiko tethers the opponent to that rotational energy. Boruto doesn’t steal it. That’s antithetical to his entire character, where he’s trying to find ways to fight against people who steal energy from the planet. So he’s not taking away from the planet to empower his attacks, he’s basically enabling the planet to “punch” the enemy. He directs that energy at the opponent without stealing from the planet. He shares with and helps the planet fight back, the villains take from the planet and give nothing.

Net actually pioneered this take and gave a much better explanation in one of my Uzuhiko threads.

Huh? What is this headcanon?



Boruto said he takes in the Planet Chakra he never mentioned anything about redirecting it, he said “To Kill him with a single blow, I will need quite a lot of it”. So no he does not just direct it, he also uses it along with his own chakra in the initial impact.

 

[Iabihs]

Boruto tethers you after he hits you with the intial hit(or if you touch him)


I Still wouldnt use it for scaling anywhere until we get another interpretatation, better safe then sorry

 

[Iabihs]

That statement could explain Gamakichi or whatever hurting the TSB,

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Jura should just scale above the Uzuhiko given that it's heavily implied Boruto has no chance against him. At least a likely rating I feel would be warranted when his profile exists

I disagree. Uzuhiko requires a charge time and Boruto being on the ground. Two things Jura isn’t likely to do or has a response for.

Suggesting Jura may scale above it implies Boruto is able to get off these restrictions against him and that’s way too speculative atm.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Boruto tethers you after he hits you with the intial hit(or if you touch him)


I Still wouldnt use it for scaling anywhere until we get another interpretatation, better safe then sorry

I’m sorry but I disagree with this take. Boruto isn’t just “tethering” you to it. Every instance of the ability comes with the context that the strength (Impact) of the jutsu is directly linked to the Planet’s Energy, which is why there is a noticeable affect in the planet to characters like Daemon.

Your stance would inherently deny Uzuhiko’s strike strength scaling to the Planet’s Energy when that isn’t supported. It uses that energy for the strike while simultaneously tethering you to that energy, which is why the damage it does and its side effects are “permanent”.

 

[Samlex1234]

I’m sorry but I disagree with this take. Boruto isn’t just “tethering” you to it. Every instance of the ability comes with the context that the strength (Impact) of the jutsu is directly linked to the Planet’s Energy, which is why there is a noticeable affect in the planet to characters like Daemon.

Your stance would inherently deny Uzuhiko’s strike strength scaling to the Planet’s Energy when that isn’t supported. It uses that energy for the strike while simultaneously tethering you to that energy, which is why the damage it does and its side effects are “permanent”.

You guys are saying the same thing.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

You guys are saying the same thing.

Ironically hilarious actually.

 

[Iabihs]

I’m sorry but I disagree with this take. Boruto isn’t just “tethering” you to it. Every instance of the ability comes with the context that the strength (Impact) of the jutsu is directly linked to the Planet’s Energy, which is why there is a noticeable affect in the planet to characters like Daemon.

Your stance would inherently deny Uzuhiko’s strike strength scaling to the Planet’s Energy when that isn’t supported. It uses that energy for the strike while simultaneously tethering you to that energy, which is why the damage it does and its side effects are “permanent”.

So were agreeing here on how uzuhiko works or????

 

[Godernet]

You’re still not understanding my point. I never claimed that Uzuhiko doesn’t enhance AP.

Never said you did

My argument is that the energy source for Uzuhiko cannot be finite. If it were finite, and we agreed that the maximum energy source is only 600 zettatons, then it would impose a strict limit on how long Uzuhiko could use that energy.

It wouldn’t unless you believe Boruto is taking energy from the Planet for Uzuhiko, which I’ve given a ton of reasons in the past as to why that likely isn’t the case.

A finite energy source inherently means a restricted duration for its activation, which contradicts the implication of its sustained usability.

Boruto already said that Uzuhiko can last semi permanent because the energy a planet produces by rotating will last far longer than their meager human life spans.

Finite is quite literally any energy amount that isn’t infinite.

Uzuhiko can still be finite but last millions of years if needed because of the sheer amount of energy it draws from.

Also if Boruto is only directing the energy at people rather than absorbing it, the energy of the planet never really decreases when he uses Uzuhiko, which means it’ll never actually exhaust the planets rotational energy anyways.

It might however affect the planet to activate a jutsu that affects a planets entire rotational energy pool, which is why when Uzuhiko is used the planet shakes.

 

[Iabihs]

Does boruto say Uzuhikos effects are only semi-permanent because Code will die? Meaning if Code was immortal they would just be Permanent, correct me if im wrong but the planet doesnt stop spinning by itself right? Only due to outside interference

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I mean in billions of years it'll be consumed by the sun

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

i have this opinion too tbh

My hot take opinion was that the Uzuhiko is as strong as the Rasengan itself

im more or less of this mind too, obviously i think the rotational part is fixed but the final output is determined by his rasengan's strength, which right now isnt all that much higher than our values but yeah

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

If Boruto used all of Earth’s rotational KE in a battle against Code, then logically, the rotational KE would be depleted

Boruto doesnt take the energy of the rotation away from the planet he tethers his rasengan to it, which is why its indefinite in effect and why the way to dispel it is similar to stopping a contract.

 

[karo_senpaii]

1) its infinite no buts or ifs
2) even if it is a possibility you cant scale that timelines jura to this one, only that hypothetical jura would be as strong, not this one, there's absolutely nothing stating every possibility has characters retain the same power level, that literally contradicts the very point of infinite possibilities
3) narutos likely outer lets give him half ratings for tier 1

They are divine trees and not people who could be different due to training and so.. there's no reason for jura to be different. Where I disagree with arc though is that I don't even think boruto has uzuhiko in any of the other timelines. The reason he is this strong RN we all know he did not have that knowledge in other timelines

 

[karo_senpaii]

I mean in billions of years it'll be consumed by the sun

Yeah but boruto is the sun according to mitsuki so star level boruto?

 

[Samlex1234]

there is no definitive answer to that rn

Arc's calc gave us a value for Uzuhiko in general that utilized what we currently know Uzuhiko is based on (centrifugal and rotational force) to assign it a value (600 Zettatons).

The site usually doesn't grant charitability if there's no sound logic that beats out the other interpretations, for the sake of indexing, that value was assigned to Uzuhiko at its strongest, aka Maximum Output Uzuhiko.

This was partially due to where we currently scale the characters and based on our current understanding of Uzuhiko, in that it's only comprised of Boruto's chakra + the Planet's rotational and centrifugal energy, meaning that its highest output being at least the full yield of said energy is probably the least assumptive and most consistent route to take until more information is presented, barring arguments like "Uzuhiko doesn't use the planet chakra in its AP", which ends up being a completely different topic from just assigning a value to a jutsu.

If we get more information that makes it seem like Uzuhiko is much more than what we were initially told, then we'll just update accordingly.

Also, Can you stop bringing up the small planet scale? It’s entirely irrelevant to Uzuhiko. Boruto is far stronger than someone like old dying Hagoromo, who performed the lifting feat effortlessly. Starting with Kaguya, the power scaling continues to increase exponentially, stacking higher and higher until we reach something like Baryon Mode. The god-tier characters don’t scale to small planet-level they are leagues beyond that, with multiple layers of far higher, exceeding small planet-scale long before we even get to Boruto.
Furthermore, if we consider the fact that what Hagoromo and Hamura fought was the Ten Tails and not Kaguya in her full physical form, the scaling becomes even more drastic. Hagoromo himself stated that their mother was more powerful than anyone else, meaning Kaguya > Ten Tails that he fought. This implies that Hagoromo fought the Ten Tails in its animalistic form, when we know that Kaguya could use and manipulate the Ten Tails’ chakra to enhance her own abilities far more effectively than the beast itself can use its power. Therefore, Revived Kaguya > Past Kaguya > Ten Tails ~ pre-Ten Tails-absorbed Hagoromo > old Hagoromo without Ten Tails’ chakra and the Gedo mazo.

Now, this “old Hagoromo without the Ten Tails’ chakra” is the one performing the small planet feat we have.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

They are divine trees and not people who could be different due to training and so.. there's no reason for jura to be different. Where I disagree with arc though is that I don't even think boruto has uzuhiko in any of the other timelines. The reason he is this strong RN we all know he did not have that knowledge in other timelines

there's a timeline where jura is secretly a lil ass girl using transformation jutsu and chakra signature manipulation
there you go now he's weaker


there's also a timeline where it's a possibility that juras only as strong as god tiers via training, see now your logic falls apart,

 

[MinatoSparkle]

The possibilities are futures that diverge from the present which is already established, so no.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

how do you know he's secretly not a lil genin
how do you know he wont contract a disease that reduces his stats by 100x

 

[Godernet]

Also, Can you stop bringing up the small planet scale? It’s entirely irrelevant to Uzuhiko.

?

I brought it up one time as part of the explanation as to why MO Uzuhiko is currently treated the way it is.

I already agree that the L5B scale isn't important to arguing Uzuhiko.

Most of what I've been saying has been to inform you as to why things are the way they are, not argue.

Boruto is far stronger than someone like old dying Hagoromo, who performed the lifting feat effortlessly. Starting with Kaguya, the power scaling continues to increase exponentially, stacking higher and higher until we reach something like Baryon Mode.

I mean as a person that helped make Jigen+ ppl 10x stronger than Hagaromo I agree.

The god-tier characters don’t scale to small planet-level they are leagues beyond that, with multiple layers of far higher, exceeding small planet-scale long before we even get to Boruto.

See this is the biggest issue here,

You're saying that god tiers cannot be L5B, as if it's a complete impossibility that's not even worth considering.

I don't even think most people who disagree with you feel that close-minded about scales that aren't their own.

Information and arguments are everchanging and nothing is 100% definitive.

If for the rest of the Boruto series, MO Uzuhiko is never surpassed, no new tier 5 or above feats come up, no new information on Uzuhiko comes up, and all we have are the explanations we've already been given about Uzuhiko: then the people that were claiming soft cap were right to be skeptical.

However, if something new comes up, then ppl obviously adapt to that new stuff on Uzuhiko, like any information-based practice would.

When you start to accept that...

• The wiki is for indexing lower/more consistent ends of scaling.
• Charitability isn't something granted without evidence that favors an interpretation.
• You're allowed to have your own way of scaling characters outside of what wiki rules and regulations accept and most normal ppl won't complain.
• No one ever listens to incredulity arguments not (example: This characters can't possibly be here because I can't envision that.)

...you'll probably be less annoyed with how things are for now and realize none of us actually want Uzuhiko to cap the verse and 99% of us are just waiting for more information to hopefully change things.

Furthermore, if we consider the fact that what Hagoromo and Hamura fought was the Ten Tails and not Kaguya in her full physical form, the scaling becomes even more drastic. Hagoromo himself stated that their mother was more powerful than anyone else, meaning Kaguya > Ten Tails that he fought. This implies that Hagoromo fought the Ten Tails in its animalistic form, when we know that Kaguya could use and manipulate the Ten Tails’ chakra to enhance her own abilities far more effectively than the beast itself can use its power. Therefore, Revived Kaguya > Past Kaguya > Ten Tails ~ pre-Ten Tails-absorbed Hagoromo > old Hagoromo without Ten Tails’ chakra and the Gedo mazo.

Now, this “old Hagoromo without the Ten Tails’ chakra” is the one performing the small planet feat we have.

None of this matters to Boruto GTs not being L5B I'm ngl.

in verse, gaps are literally unquantifiable without feats, statements, or multipliers to provide them some kind of numeric value.

and in that regard, Boruto GTs being currently 10x stronger than Shippuden GTs is still a big enough gap to fit the entire scaling chain you made above in a way that makes sense.

there are some verses where you can be 40% stronger than someone to one-shot them, and likewise, there are verses where you can be hundreds of times stronger than someone and still be relative.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

In Naruto a 20x difference isn't enough to blitz or one shot

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

okay twenty more digits ggs