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Naruto Speed Revisions and Scaling II
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I'm not sure if we can scale based on a mental battle.
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Kurama is a mass of chakra, so its not like hes fighting a "fake" he also activates SM in real time to fight kurama in his mind. Im unsure what should be done, i just thought id bring it up.Damage3245 said:
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That's not a mental battle at all. Kurama takes physical form inside Naruto and outside Naruto.
Trust me if we're believe it was a menta battle we would have given Naruto mind manipulation a while ago for being able to go into the minds of others and punch them when he connects chakra with them
I can find some more scans for SM Naruto Scaling to sub rel because war arc SM Naruto is stronger and faster and I know a couple scans that can help
Trust me if we're believe it was a menta battle we would have given Naruto mind manipulation a while ago for being able to go into the minds of others and punch them when he connects chakra with them
I can find some more scans for SM Naruto Scaling to sub rel because war arc SM Naruto is stronger and faster and I know a couple scans that can help
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I didn't change the justifications, just changed them to Sub-Rel.M3X said:
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No u.M3X said:
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I can fix that up, but i'd like to get the SM Naruto scaling to kurama solved. I'll work on some of them.
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Wrath Of Itachi said:
We can't do thqt now. We all agreed on making a crt later so we can get it accepted that he needs a key after his profile got messed up again
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I wasn't talking about war arc SM, I was going to use that for pain arc SM.
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Ohhhh pain arc?
Well I personally believe we will have to re-evaluate that arc and some characters again later
Well I personally believe we will have to re-evaluate that arc and some characters again later
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We do not.Omimi said:
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I think there was some talk about make a key for war arc SM, but I'm not sure when the thread for it will be made.
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After this whole speed revision is finished or after the AP revisions
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It should probably be finished before the speed revisions since it will affect scaling.
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I'll help out with editing some of the justifications in the sandbox today.
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What are your thoughts on SM Naruto scaling to Kurama? Also do you agree with the current stats?
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I do think that SM Naruto is beneath Kurama after rereading the fight, but I'm also not sure if we have a solid speed value yet for 50% Kurama. I'll focus on the other ratings in the sandbox for now.
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I agree with mindovin^
But anyways since it seems like we are finished with the high tier we can get ready to discuss the Top Tier sometime soon
But anyways since it seems like we are finished with the high tier we can get ready to discuss the Top Tier sometime soon
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I think Obito should be higher with reactions.
DMS Obito could react to Six Paths Madara and DMS Kakashi could react to Kaguya. Juubito > Them.
DMS Obito could react to Six Paths Madara and DMS Kakashi could react to Kaguya. Juubito > Them.
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Actually is agree Sasuke and Naruto never completely overwhelmed JuubitoS reactions at all man.
I agree with DMS and Juubito having higher reactions from feats and reasoning
I agree with DMS and Juubito having higher reactions from feats and reasoning
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Guys, we aren't done with the high tiers yet.
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I think that Nagato's combat speed for his Edo key should be "At least Massively Hypersonic+". He did manage to react to Killer B in his base state, but when he attacked KCM Naruto it was after Naruto had been caught by his invisible chameleon.
I would probably say the same for Edo Itachi tbh. KCM Naruto and Itachi weren't fighting each other seriously (Itachi's movements were on auto-pilot, and Naruto was doing fine fending him off. They were even chatting to each other as they clashed briefly.).
I would probably say the same for Edo Itachi tbh. KCM Naruto and Itachi weren't fighting each other seriously (Itachi's movements were on auto-pilot, and Naruto was doing fine fending him off. They were even chatting to each other as they clashed briefly.).
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That's fine.
EDIT: Actually, shouldnt he have Sub-Rel reactions since B is also Sub-Rel?
EDIT: Actually, shouldnt he have Sub-Rel reactions since B is also Sub-Rel?
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@Wrath of Itachi; isn't Killer B rated as "At least Massively Hypersonic+" in his base form?
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Itachi scales from Kabuto, so he def is sub-rel.
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@Rocker1189; right now on the sandbox Kabuto gets his scaling from Itachi.
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No, he's Sub-Rel in the sandbox for fighting MS Sasuke. Also Itachi scales to KCM Naruto and Killer B, Kavuto scales to EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi.Damage3245 said:
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I know this is irrelevant, but there is a dude in CV that is saying that Base Naruto and Sasuke are weaker than Sarada because of the volumes statements and is saying that this is enough to assume the author is drugged and light novels and databooks should be ignored.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...er-files-ninja-encyclopedia-powerlvl-2064905/
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...lid-light-speedrelativistic-Reaction-2064570/
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...er-files-ninja-encyclopedia-powerlvl-2064905/
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...lid-light-speedrelativistic-Reaction-2064570/
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This is a CRT thread first.Lthesavant said:
Bring this up in general discussion not here.
Databooks are taken by case by case basis and we generally dont use stats anyway.
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Would this upgrade benefit characters such as Hiruzen ? At least on his prime ?
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