Naruto Revisions: Still continuing

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

yeah. and his also an edo at that. when madara was revived, he got strong enough to physically break gates than can hold the juubi's tail down. if hashirama were to also come back to life, he could likely fight juubito. he would likely loose, but it would be comparable, tbh.

 

[DanielX7]

'''''Sasuke's page needs to be corrected and upgraded.'''''

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Should Prime Madara have Wood Release and Hashirama's Regenerationn? Talking about Madara after eating a piece of Hashirama's flesh.

 

[LordWhis]

@Whis

They literally never mention Yin-Yang Release in that sentence.

He's using natural energy through the Ten-Tails. Hitting it with Senjutsu disrupts the technique.


I don't see why you need to extrapolate any more than that.

He is definitely using Yin Yang release as yin yang release is the only thing that negates ninjutsu, senjutsu has never been shown to negate ninjutsu EVER. It is universally held among the fandom that Juubi jin's immunity to ninjutsu is a result of yin yang release & its ability to nullify all ninjutsu except senjutsu because as Naruto says-Natural energy counters itself.

This ninjutsu negation being attributed to yin yang release is also portrayed when Hiruzen survives a TSB before obito masters the juubi & begins imbuing yin yang release into it, only after he starts imbuing them with YY release do they start permanently damaging edo tensei.

Also, the terms natural energy & Yin Yang release seem to be used interchangeably in this volume with Tobirama referring to Juubito's ninjutsu-negation ability as Yin Yang release & Naruto referring to it as Natural energy, strongly implying that they are the same thing.


But this is a bit of a detour from the topic so maybe we should be discussing this somewhere else. I can give you some similarities in the functioning of YY release & senjutsu which further point towards YY release being Natural energy.

PS: What's your final decision on that weakness for Minato we were talking about the other day ?

 

[LordWhis]

Just out of curiosity if EMS sasuke = KCM Naruto, why is KCM Naruto at 7-B & EMS Sasuke at Low 6-B ?

@Omimi: I thought we had all agreed on the Raasenshuriken ignoring durability ?


Also, why hasn't Minato been upgraded to Low 6-B ?

 

[Omimi]

@lordwhis

i didint say anything about Raasenshuriken ?

 

[LordWhis]

Should Prime Madara have Wood Release and Hashirama's Regenerationn? Talking about Madara after eating a piece of Hashirama's flesh.

It's a bit iffy, The Naruto wiki says he can but it's not the most accurate & I'm hard pressed to remember when he ever demonstrated it. If he could he wouldn't have gone through so much effort to grow a Hashirama clone, though he may just not have been skilled enough to create the clone with wood release.

 

[LordWhis]

@lordwhis

i didint say anything about Raasenshuriken ?

You showed the scan of rasenshuriken matching EMS Sasuke's attacks as proof they were equals.

 

[Omimi]

^ oh that one, my bad

black flame also ignoring durability no?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Whis

I don't think he ever did, but I was wondering if it's because he didn't need to.

 

[LordWhis]

@Whis

I don't think he ever did, but I was wondering if it's because he didn't need to.

It would definitely have helped him create Hashirama's clone, so why would he not use it ? unless maybe he wasn't skilled enough with it.

 

[Omimi]

@Burning Full Fingers Should Prime Madara have Wood Release and Hashirama's Regenerationn?

no only edo madara and afterward

 

[LordWhis]

^ oh that one, my bad

black flame also ignoring durability no?

We don't list it as ignoring durability & even if it did it would only invalidate the scan more.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Again, EMS Sasuke > KCM Naruto the fact he unlocked PS During the war is proof.

We're not gonna have 2 Keys for EMS Sasuke, so stop pushing him as = KCM, because he isn't.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Again, EMS Sasuke > KCM Naruto the fact he unlocked PS During the war is proof.
We're not gonna have 2 Keys for EMS Sasuke, so stop pushing him as = KCM, because he isn't.

He unlocked Perfect susanoo only when hagoromo gave him his chakra Ems sasuke is decently below KCM naruto

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I've updated Madara's page. I hope I'm not missing something.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

It was already added for him.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Shouldnt sage madara be Multi continent level as edo madara could pierce hashi with chakra rods

making them rougly equal if they both use sage mode

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Again, EMS Sasuke > KCM Naruto the fact he unlocked PS During the war is proof.
We're not gonna have 2 Keys for EMS Sasuke, so stop pushing him as = KCM, because he isn't.

He unlocked Perfect susanoo only when hagoromo gave him his chakra Ems sasuke is decently below KCM naruto

No. Sasuke unlocked while fighting Juubito. "Majestic-Attire" is PS. And KCM =/= BM.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

@BFF

Madara's page looks good.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Majestic attire isnt PS as i doubt he wouldnt be using PS against juubito

and obviously KCM isnt same as BM naruto

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Madara's page looks pretty good.

Although does Alive Madara have any feats with his katon?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Thanks, guys. I worked on that stuff for almost an hour. Though I forgot Sealing. I'll add it now.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

looks good BFF, does Kurama need a page update?

 

[DodoNova2]

Naruto Rasenshuriken Calc

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blogodoNova2/Naruto_Revision_-_Giant_Rasenshurike

 

[Kepekley23]

Prime Madara's Katon should be Obito-level

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I agree with Kep. Alongside the fact it should at least be somewhat comparable to his Edo MS self.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Updated Prime Madara's Katon.

@Shadow

Kurama? How?

 

[Omimi]

Shouldnt sage madara be Multi continent level as edo madara could pierce hashi with chakra rods
making them rougly equal if they both use sage mode

no cuz that would also put BM natuto on Multi continent level for creaking sm madara susano

also sm madara with susano>sm madara without susano

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

shouldnt he get a High 6-A key like Naruto? he shouldnt be that much weaker than BSM Naruto

i mean Kurama

 

[Omimi]

if kurama can use sm then probably yes

 

[BlackeJan]

Shouldn't BM Naruto be At Least Massively Hypersonic+ since he's more faster then KCM (even KCM should be At Least Massively Hypersonic+ as well)

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

we use the same reasoning to put Kurama at 5-C

 

[Dark649]

Shouldn't BM Naruto be At Least Massively Hypersonic+ since he's more faster then KCM (even KCM should be At Least Massively Hypersonic+ as well)

There is a considerable gap, the at least should start for the characters that are High 6-A phisically and onwards.

 

[BlackeJan]

Shouldn't BM Naruto be At Least Massively Hypersonic+ since he's more faster then KCM (even KCM should be At Least Massively Hypersonic+ as well)

There is a considerable gap, the at least should start for the characters that are High 6-A phisically and onwards.

Is there a way we can calculate both sped feat just in case?

 

[DodoNova2]

I'm also going to compute a Speed Feat of Sasuke Susanoo but I have exams so later

 

[Dark649]

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Is there a way we can calculate both sped feat just in case?

I don't know, but you can also ask to Kep.

 

[Kepekley23]

What feats? That is powerscaling

 

[DodoNova2]

Sasuke who is very high in the sky returns to the ground before the meteorites falls (I also calculate a speed of 400 KM / s for the meteor)

 

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

speed feats for bijuu mode Naruto I believe