Naruto Revisions: Still continuing

[Omimi]

Kep the problem is if EMS Sasuke was Low 6-B, he would have stomped Kabuto.

it was only skeletal Susanoo thou

 

[Kepekley23]

EMS Sasuke (pre-Juugo) should be downgraded to 7-B.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

This is actually armored Susanoo

 

[Dark649]

Agree with Kep, EMS Sasuke is not superior to the Bijus.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I agree with Kep aswell

 

[Dark649]

Kep we should also upgrade Kakashi Susanoo to 6-B and downgrade his speed?.

 

[Kepekley23]

Also, taking hits from KCM Naruto doesn't automatically make you 7-B. Edo Itachi has zero 7-B feats, so he should be 8-A or 7-C at most.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

well def 7-C at the minimum, cause Itachi knocked naruto hard enough to send him a few meters back and put him on guard

 

[Kepekley23]

Kakashi should be 6-B via scaling, yes. And his speed should be downgraded to Massively Hypersonic+ since other people on the same level as him are scaled to this rating.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

yeah, he didn't keep up with her, her attack speedblitzed him, he literally reacted just in time.. so even with a high ball he would only have sub relativistic Reactions,

 

[Mindovin]

I think adding at least or low-end to Juubi's and Kurama's -not 5C/moon level+ - ap and tier more accurate to their power because we never see their strongest attack -for example a BD created with all their chakra reserves- only see/read 2 of them casually tossing BD.

 

[LordWhis]

Capable of Fighting KCM Naruto Hand to Hand

Damaged Kabuto and ultimately defeated him

this is all with out Susanoo

He wasn't really trying against KCM Naruto, besides he didn't use susanoo against him.

He was holding back against Kabuto, Sasuke did worse than he did against Kabuto, he is still low 6-b.

Feats that put him at EMS Sasuke's level or higher-

Sasuke could barely keep up with him through the woods.

Kabuto noted Itachi to be faster than Sasuke.

Saved Sasuke's life & protected him with his susanoo about a million times during the Kabuto fight.



When he used Izanagi, Sasuke was simply in awe .

Knocked him back with Chakra crows-


Pimpslapped his susanoo-



His Yasaka magatama was shown to be equal to Sasuke's Complete Susanoo Arrow-

 

[Kepekley23]

We're not talking about Susano Itachi, just Edo Itachi.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Also is it still fine if we can add a New Era Key for Kakashi

 

[Dark649]

Also is it still fine if we can add a New Era Key for Kakashi

Seems harmless, also should we give a 8-A key for Masked Man Obito and make BaseMinato just 8-A?.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

How strong would new era Kakashi be? 7-C?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Kakashi should be 6-B via scaling, yes. And his speed should be downgraded to Massively Hypersonic+ since other people on the same level as him are scaled to this rating.

Power doesn't necessarily equate to speed. We've already seen that DMS Kamui > Madara's TSB. Obito kept up with Juudara, and it was accepted in a thread, iirc. The only reason Obito was downgraded is because BSM Naruto would scale, and it's stupid for him to scale from something Juudara did.

 

[LordWhis]

We're not talking about Susano Itachi, just Edo Itachi.

Well, I'm requesting a low 6-B for Susanoo Itachi, do whatever you want with Base Itachi.

If it's of any help, amaterasu was stated to be able to one shot a High 6-C killer B, scale him from that.

 

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

@dark, I like that. 7-c minato would make his rasengan stronger than a rasenshuriken, which is weird.

 

[BlackeJan]

@Blacke
There's currently only one calc.

Alrighty! then we can juct calc for the other transformation (whatever that is)

 

[Dark649]

Obito keeping up with Juudara is PIS, Madara at that point was much faster then Juubito, Obito [Who lost the bijus] only obtained fragments from Madara and was still not strong as he was before, Madara would have blitzed him, but decided to toy with him.

 

[Mindovin]

Minato's keys this way more logical imo: Base | Tailed Beast Mode (Yin-half Nine-Tails). He never used Sage mode -imperfect- and Kyubi Chakra Mode. Maybe Tailed Beast Sage Mode key can added because when using Kurama chakra cloak Naruto absorb nature chakra much more faster, like in seconds.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

In any case, we need a new thread.

 

[LordWhis]

Also, can someone do something about Minato, the strange character who is low 6-b to 6-b in every stat but is in tier high 6-c ?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

@LordWhis

He was fixed a while ago bro.

 

[LordWhis]

Minato's keys this way more logical imo: Base | Tailed Beast Mode (Yin-half Nine-Tails). He never used Sage mode -imperfect- and Kyubi Chakra Mode. Maybe Tailed Beast Sage Mode key can added because when using Kurama chakra cloak Naruto absorb nature chakra much more faster, like in seconds.

If we give Minato tailed beast sage mode based on pure speculation then there should be nothing wrong with giving Itachi a High 6-A key too for natural energy-amped Susanoo.

 

[LordWhis]

@LordWhis

He was fixed a while ago bro.

He is not fixed.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

we need a new thread so long

 

[LordWhis]

Also, totally random but why was Neiji downgraded from Low 7-B to 8-A ?

 

[Dark649]

Also, totally random but why was Neiji downgraded from Low 7-B to 8-A ?

Because he is not comparable to Gates Gai and Kitsuchi.

 

[Mindovin]

Minato's keys this way more logical imo: Base | Tailed Beast Mode (Yin-half Nine-Tails). He never used Sage mode -imperfect- and Kyubi Chakra Mode. Maybe Tailed Beast Sage Mode key can added because when using Kurama chakra cloak Naruto absorb nature chakra much more faster, like in seconds.

If we give Minato tailed beast sage mode based on pure speculation then there should be nothing wrong with giving Itachi a High 6-A key too for natural energy-amped Susanoo.

I don't know why you brought natural energy-amped Susanoo for Itachi because 2 topic is irrelevant with each other even Minato get Tailed Beast Sage Mode key.

1) Susano'o couldn't give it's user nature chakra in canon. If Itachi learned sage arts in the canon he can amp his Susano'o himself maybe this way we see if Susano'o give it's user boost for absorbing nature chakra. 2) Minato train in the sage arts -even imperfect state- and used it against Madara after losing Kurama 3) While using Kurama chakra mode Naruto absorb nature chakra much more faster than normal and Kurama is the same Kurama.

 

[LordWhis]

If we give Minato tailed beast sage mode based on pure speculation then there should be nothing wrong with giving Itachi a High 6-A key too for natural energy-amped Susanoo.


I don't know why you brought natural energy-amped Susanoo for Itachi because 2 topic is irrelevant with each other even Minato get Tailed Beast Sage Mode key.

1) Susano'o can't give it's user nature chakra in canon. If Itachi learned sage arts in the canon he can amp his Susano'o himself maybe this way we see if Susano'o give it's user boost for absorbing nature chakra. 2) Minato train in the sage arts -even imperfect state- and used it against Madara after losing Kurama 3) While using Kurama chakra mode Naruto absorb nature chakra much more faster than normal and Kurama is the same Kurama.



To quote what people said when I said similar stuff about Itachi combining natural energy & susanoo-

It's pure speculation to assume that he would combine them.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

He is not fixed.

yes he was. It just takes a while to be visible outside of desktop.

 

[LordWhis]

He is not fixed.

yes he was. It just takes a while to be visible outside of desktop.

Ah, OK

 

[Mindovin]

@ LordWhis

Itachi never trained in senjutsu, Minato trained in senjutsu -I don't remember he mastered or not, i need to reread the manga later but he can use it in combat- and he is a genius if necessary he use against an opponent.

Your saying comparable to this; why 8-A Naruto didn't use senjutsu against neji in the Chünin Exams.