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It was done through Chakra iirc, and the same chakra could be used to boost physicals, no? Isn't that why almost all the characters have Statistics Amplification via chakra manipulation?
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Naruto Part II Revisions (Multipliers/Calculations)
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That's a good point
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That's not how chakra works. You don't just give something else AP because it takes the same amount of chakra (we can't even quantify the amount of chakra to do it), or else we would have to quantify healing ninjutsu's AP
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Normal jutsus are comparable to physicals in terms of AP of the characters that are using them. Rain tiger is extremely casual jutsu. Before part 1 Sasukes bear feat we scaled all genins physicals to Sasukes fireball jutsu.
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The Rain Tiger at Will isn't a normal jutsu, it's a sensing jutsu w/ AP formed from creating clouds. At least the fireball is meant to hurt people, this is just regular rain used to sense.
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We would consider attacking jutsu like the Shinra Tensei to be superior to the RTaW, right? Naruto and his clones could survive Shinra Tensei from a weakened Pain, so his dura would scale and Pain can throw hands with him. Also M3X made a 7-B dura calc for Pain himself, I can’t find that though.
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I can't think of any solid evidence that would mean his punches need to be stronger than his ninjutsu.
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You gotta remember, chakra in their world isn't like energy in our world. It could take less chakra to do an attack with more potency.
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If we took our feelings and headcannon out of facts/feats presented we wouldn’t need 16 pages and annual revisions..
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Either way I find doing hst revisions a waste of time considering this wiki can make cannon material non cannon if they choose it.
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Did someone get offended by my interjections lol. Your rebuttals from what I’ve seen are terrible, these content revisions for naruto needs to be made by a competent scaler. Clearly he ones that scaled this verse didn’t do a good job since were here again.
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Wasn’t ranting was just stating what needed to be stated. Until you actually bring value to this discussion instead of “I don’t agree” with no reasoning I suggest you spectate.
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@SinisterShadow703 Look, I understand where you’re coming from, but you aren’t helping. If you’re not gonna actually contribute to the revisions, then it’d be appreciated if you didn’t bog down an already long thread unnecessarily.
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Been chilling and my interjections doesn’t stop anyone from discussing. I’ve just noticed too much headcannon and feelings downplaying facts in this discussion so I made a simple suggestion then went on my usual tangents, not my fault you got hurt.
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I’m spectating atm I just suggested some of the people in here to stop using headcannon and using their feelings about a subject as a rebuttal cuz it goes nowhere. Then this mex kid got offended by my opinion after my suggestion.
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@SinisterShadow. You know that you can't be 100% factual when powerscaling because how people interpret the story and feats is somewhat subjective. Thats why we have discussions to reach a consensus. If you have an example of people using headcanon in this thread tell us so we can address the issue.
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M3X, could you post that 7-B Pain calc you made? It would be pretty helpful rn.
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Pain's durability
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Thank you. That’s not too far away from Sage Jiraiya’s calc (30 megatons to 38.9 megatons), so that’s great.
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Damage uses it a lot ( I’m sure you have seen this) and is always in these discussions for some reason, anyways let’s hope brain gymnastics isn’t used when discussing kaguya revisions to get around scaling ETSB to her and chakra traversing from earth to her dimension.
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After rereading the chapter though, it doesn't look like Pain was even hit by the Biju Bomb. Not directly. He isn't in the blast zone after the destruction is done.
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He was extremely close before it went off, so I think it's fair to assume he was just flung away by the blast.
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Nobody insinuated that he teleported away.
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The attack Pain used as Naruto was charging the bijuudama was universal pull, an attack which controls attractive forces while he was the core of the technique. It should've been very close.
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Pain using Universal Pull offsets the attack. Here we see him in close proximity in the corner.
Afterwards Pain is only grazed by the attack, his upper portion of his shirt destroyed only.
And in the next page we can see where Pain begins jumping from. He isn't even inside the crater caused by the Biju Bomb.
We can also see Naruto & the rock Pain hit Naruto with in the same panel there, just a few meters away from where Pain was.
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Also one more suggestion I suggest not saying powercliffing is an outlier considering gohan went from 4-B to 3-A on this site (argument used by mex to deny naruto god tiers getting that strong) . This is also something I’ve seen while reviewing this discussion, not a rant just a suggestion.
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Guess I’ll send a screen shot
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If i can... hold up
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It was in a different thread
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It is cuz your apart of this discussion
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