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Amado mentions that in his battle with Naruto and Sasuke, he used so much chakra that his own strength would be almost 0. but with a chakra filling that lasted for 1-2 hours, the crack was resolved and it reached 10% levels. he was also stressed many times by koji that he was weaker.
Actually with daemon's statements this could even be a good feat lol (j)
In English, and with a stronger assertion:
How to tell if you not read the whole thread, without really tell it. Read the argument correctly, what we need to know that both of Isshiki and Kaguya was relative. And for Naruto case, that's an asinine analogy, because it's a comedic relief scene. REMEMBER GAG SCENE
Naruto isn’t a gag manga where things can be disregarded because of a comedic undertone. There’s not even a precedence of things illogical happening because it was intended for comedy. This isn’t One Piece.
What do you want to say explicitly? Say it and bring relevant point-by-point evidence, because what you've been discussing is in line with what I've been saying. It's as if you're saying I don't understand what I'm saying, but instead, you're doing a Self-Defeating Argument by supporting my premise. Because from the start, the 10% connotation that is only present in the context of Jigen is limited to Jigen recovering.
Your's is definitely nowhere near simpler, your assumptions are too bold and specific. Because those are not that likely to actually happen in the actual plot. Literally Hagoromo didn't need sleep to survive, and yet you are making up assumptions that Isshiki could've been sleeping?!
What I'm talking about is that jigen has increased to 10% due to healing. when his body cracks he almost reaches 0 points. ( bro didn't realize the himawari part was a joke)
Fair enough. It is extremely difficult to take someone off guard who is 10 times faster and stronger than you infact, the reason for this is that Isshiki superior physical abilities enable for him to react more quickly and effectively to potential threats or attacks. Do you remember when Jigen able to deploy Sasuke who gonna execute his neck? For instance, if someone were to attempt to surprise attack such a person, they would likely be unable to do so because the person's heightened physical abilities would enable them to detect and evade the attack more quickly, leaving the attacker vulnerable and exposed. Furthermore, a person who is 10 times faster and stronger than you would likely have a much greater awareness of their surroundings, as well as a more acute sense of danger, allowing them to anticipate and avoid potential threats before they even materialize.
And assuming Îshiki was somehow aware that kaguya was attacking him and was anable to react anyways is the simplest assumption? Nowhere is stated that Hagoromo doesnt need to sleep having an enourmous stamina doesnt mean you dont need to sleep, and it doesnt matter what explanation is, anything can be said to be simple because Ishiki was unaware of whatever attack Kaguya made and thats what it counts.
Bro thought the shonen manga can't have a gag scene
Byakugan
Your analogy does not provide any conclusive evidence, as hitting Mike Tyson would result in a reaction that could potentially push you back, and Isshiki has been repeatedly demonstrated as a careful and meticulous character, making it unlikely that he would be caught off-guard so easily.
Different situations, Mike Tyson is a human being. Whilst Isshiki is an alien, a fictional character that have abilities. And this would depend on the context, because if i remember correctly, Isshiki and Kaguya are supposed to be allies since both of them are there to plant the God Tree. Isshiki could've simply thought of her as an ally, and then she just suddenly attacked him and caught him off guard. Which again, Isshiki would have been able to react since he is 10x stronger and faster than her.
This post doesn't address anything, it's stated/implied he was off-guarded by Kaguya. Trying to rationalize this just to provide a debunk against the 10x scaling isn't a good argument and it comes off as reachy.
this is only true for people already engaging in combat, where even if your off guard or distracted your likely to still be more on guard than you would if you were asleep or not in a fight.
Seems they found and agreed with this thread veryy fast for being mostly inactive members. Though I’m not here to make a big deal out of it lol just something I noticed
That's why it's more make sense for Kaguya to be relative to Isshiki. Because the 10% points is inconsistent. It will be make more sense for Kaguya to be able to harm him. If we use the logic that Isshiki is ten times stronger and faster, the reaction will get harder too. When you punch something, you will get an equal reaction of energy of your punch, as dictated by Newton's third law of motion, which states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
What the hell is your ass talking aboutBro thought the shonen manga can't have a gag scene
Even the comedy categorise have in Naruto's genre tho
It wouldn't because Isshiki isn't 10x stronger, faster and more durable than Kaguya as a baseline, it's only when he has, and is using 100% of his chakra that he's arguably 10x above Kaguya. Literally nothing you have stated has debunked this fact nor have you debunked the idea of Kaguya off-guarding Isshiki being non-scalable to Isshiki's full-power.
How about this:
Is it that hard to understand? just because the show doesn't resolves around comedy and gag, doesn't mean that gag scenes doesn't exist. A lot of Shonen Animes have their comedic relief scenes, and it is never meant to be taken seriously.
There's honestly nothing strange abt it, so what if random accounts agreed whilst barely being active? they are not important, VSB prioritize opinions from actual staff members. Not random members, it doesn't matter if they say agree or not. Unless they are also discussing the same topicmy bro really said "nothing strange"
