Naruto Discussion Thread (formerly Kakashi Hatake vs Raven Branwen)

[BruceTheBatman]

2 characters from series I like. One is a character who has grown on me very much lately and is easily my favorite in their verse, and the other is one I utterly detest. I'll let you guess which is which.
Portal Creation as potential BFR is banned

Current Kakashi vs Raven Branwen

Speed equalized

 

[Nico-v11]

Oh you've done it now

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Bump

 

[Schnee_One]

<RWBY vs Naruto

NOPE

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Boop

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Gargoyle has NOPE'd right off the bat.

 

[Schnee_One]

Also Raven is the one you detest I assume

 

[Rocker1189]

I really can not be bothered to get into this. So yeah.

 

[Nico-v11]

I love how everyone has come to a mutual agreement about this thread lol

 

[BruceTheBatman]

boop

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

goddamit, I hoped with naruto 7c upgrades and ruby downgrades this wouldn't happen again.

Banning abilities is against the rules (kakashi has no bfr and raven does not use it to fight anyways

Raven has the AP and better elemental manip, and her aura makes her much harder to defeat.

Kakashi has speed via amping and is more sneaky, which might be useful cia haviong 4 Km between each other.


But alas, aura protects against most attack long enough for raven to react and attack back and she has enough aoe to catch him, freeze him etc.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Raven doesn't have the AP advantage and Kakashi resists freezing

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I tought she did, but I digress

He needs to specifically concentrate his chakra to do so, which he cannot do while fighting against raven, as she would not stop for him to recover

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Unlike the Ice Jutsu used on Kakashi in the Novel, Raven's Ice ability isn't continuous. Once it's broken, it's broken.

 

[TheShadowMan777]

Kakashi stomps same as in kakashi vs cinder the kakuzu feat,the purple lightning feat,etc... Plus if this is or isn't boruto era,he still has more experience than her,In the boruto era he's like 40 and in shippuden he's like 35.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Raven is that age too and has been training since she was a child just like kakashi

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Unlike the Ice Jutsu used on Kakashi in the Novel, Raven's Ice ability isn't continuous. Once it's broken, it's broken.

Her ice ability also is instant and has no projectile so hes not dodging it

 

[Theglassman12]

That doesn't really change much when he can break out of it.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Cinder couldn't even break out of it and even so it would leave him open long enough to land a lethal blow on him

 

[Theglassman12]

Cinder isn't a good comparison since she's not resistant to ice manipulation.

 

[TheShadowMan777]

If this is Boruto era Kakashi then he has waay more experience since Raven is in her 30's while kakashi (Boruto) is in his 40's. It does say current Kakashi so it's highly likely it's boruto era.

 

[Theglassman12]

it is Boruto era Kakashi.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Cinder uses copious amounts of fire and she was frozen solid, she is absolutely a good comparison

 

[TheShadowMan777]

I know Minato vs Raven is a dead thread but I'm on my way to debunk "Raven is faster than Minato."

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If this is Boruto era Kakashi then he has waay more experience since Raven is in her 30's while kakashi (Boruto) is in his 40's. It does say current Kakashi so it's highly likely it's boruto era.

Raven is in her late 40s unless she had yang at age 12

 

[Theglassman12]

No it's not. Fire can be put out pretty quickly. Show me that she resists ice.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Glass You want me to show you where fire resists ice?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Raven is in her late 40s unless she had yang at age 12

 

[Theglassman12]

@Glass You want me to show you where fire resists ice?

I want to see proof that Cinder resists ice.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Cinder's ice which is inferior to the ice raven uses froze raven solid for a full minute before she was able to break out

 

[TheShadowMan777]

Ok nvm I was wrong Kakashi is in his late 40's or early 50's in the Boruto era.

 

[Theglassman12]

Cinder's ice which is inferior to the ice raven uses froze raven solid for a full minute before she was able to break out

Cinder is not Raven. I'm asking for Cinder resisting ice.

 

[LordGinSama]

Cinder doesn't have a passive high body temperature like Ace, Natsu or Akainu as far as I'm aware. Aside from that I could argue that Raven could potentially one shot, if someone can adjust the calc I'd argue that Raven could be baseline 7-A given the context of the feat. I'll wait on the for the time being. How often does Kakashi use Genjutsu? If it's in character I'll vote for him.

 

[TheShadowMan777]

She isn't mountain level she's city level.

 

[Theglassman12]

He doesn't have the sharinghans at this point, unless he's shown to use genjutsus without them.

Umm, Kakashi is at least City level+, he's not going to get oneshotted by a baseline mountain level character.

 

[LordGinSama]

She isn't mountain level she's city level.

Never said she was, I said that once the calc is adjusted I'll argue about her being 7-A.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Cinder wears a dress imbued with lava dust, said dust is able to melt stone into liquid instantly and is superior to fire dust which can melt blocks of ice instantly.

She couldn't melt Raven's Ice with her dress

 

[TheShadowMan777]

He did take hits from kakuzu which is atleast mountain level. The two tails swung her paw and he just caught it casually. All tailed beasts are mountain level. But kakashi didn't take his hits casually. Kakashi got f*cked up in that fight lol. But Boruto era isn't stronger than DMS Kakashi. But he got stronger after the kakuzu fight.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Weekly and how does that makes her resistant to ice manipulation??

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Her clothing is hot enough to melt ice and stone on contact and has done so before. This exact topic was brought up in Cinder vs Esdeath and its the reason why it was agreed that she would resist Madaphamha