Also the ems doesn’t need to be a 2 times amp. It’s accepted that the sasuke that kinshiki fought was stronger than kinshiki. So for him to be relative to someone that’s 2 times stronger than kinshiki, I really don’t think it’s that big of a deal
I can make the thread on Tuesday if nobody else wants to write it all up and get all the evidence.
We already know what the canon is, there is no need for that. Both manga and anime are canon. It’s not deep
So to summarize you agree with the upscaling but are neutral on the specific scaling?
Exactly.
Bet thanks for your input
Personally I disagree with this kind of scaling. Why Kinshiki is scaled like this? He has not the feats to put him at that level. Each time he fought Sasuke was weakened by the Portal Fatigue and Shikamaru could restrain him. Why should Fused Momo be the combined value? Passing power means Fused Momo becomes stronger and inherits Kinshiki's abilities but we don't know how much stronger he becomes.
I saw that for Momo Scaling (not that I agree with it).
WDYM? All the 5-C+ Profiles have already been revised to 5-C with the exception of Hagoromo, Hamura, and Kaguya.
I don't talk about the Toneri calc. I talk about the General Naruto Revisions.
Kinshiki scales at a weakened Sasuke at best which we don't know how he scales to Toneri. I agree the scaling is not good.
Aren't the General Revisions just for Profiles below the God Tiers or in other words Profiles that don't scale to Tier 5 or FTL?
Yes. Let me explain. The plan was to start with other tiers like low, mid,high and top tiers and at the end the revisions will continue with God Tiers. The thing is that that the revisions are slow and many Naruto revision threads start each day.
Can u quantify how much weaker sasuke was? It’s already accepted that kinshiki should at least be toneris level, it’s also stated that he directly passed on his power not abilities so it is a direct case of an addition. Base momoshiki was also agreed on to be superior to kinshiki. These are things that shouldn’t even be an arguments. If u still think these characters shouldn’t scale to each other feel free to make a thread on it
Since when was this ever a thing? Even in the original Part II revisions, it included literally everything, it didn’t split things into these random tiers.
Aw damn shit is sad to look at
Sure beats Country level though
Sure beats Country level though
That’s not the calc im using for this thread
yeahSure beats Country level though
Yonko vs Toneri would’ve been a good matchup tho
In both the anime sasuke was able to send an on guard fused momoshiki flying. In the manga he blatantly outspeeds momoshiki, punches him and sends him flying if u had just checked my proof section u would know in both the anime and manga sasuke scales to fused momoshiki. All this means is that sasuke wasn’t trying as hard. And unless u think that the sasuke that fought borushiki is stronger than the one that fought kinshiki then kinshiki would still be moon level. It is also generally accepted that kinshiki is supirior to toneri, it’s that simple
Momoshiki was in the air and had being kicked away by Naruto. This simple interaction between the Sasuke and Momoshiki doesn't prove anything, it's the same as scaling the base Naruto for the Ishiki, because besides kicking the Ishiki (which is thrown away) it also damages Ishiki's cheek.
In both the anime sasuke was able to send an on guard fused momoshiki flying. In the manga he blatantly outspeeds momoshiki, punches him and sends him flying if u had just checked my proof section u would know in both the anime and manga sasuke scales to fused momoshiki. All this means is that sasuke wasn’t trying as hard. And unless u think that the sasuke that fought borushiki is stronger than the one that fought kinshiki then kinshiki would still be moon level. It is also generally accepted that kinshiki is supirior to toneri, it’s that simple
No tf it’s not. Isshiki was clearly off guard. I have provided the image. Went behind momoshiki and momoshiki saw him so he was on guard and sasuke was still able to send him flying. Your arguement on how he doesn’t scale to Momoshiki makes no sense. In both the anime and manga he is consistently shown to scale to both of them. It’s also stated that naruto and sasuke are equals so you’re arguement there also doesn’t make any sense. U also said it yourself that the anime is supposed to correct the anime’s mistakes so why tf are u still arguing against it
The Anime honestly should be primary canon for the series. It's pretty obvious going off how the series has been going these days with the plot holes being filled by the anime and the fact that it would make things a lot easier here
Thank you
Yes. In the anime the difference between Naruto and Delta became clearer. In addition to cutting things said in the manga/extra information from volumes that were inconsistent. For example, they removed Code's statment that he and Boro were equal in power and stronger than Delta. In the scene where the Code says this in the manga is changed in anime and he says, "Since you failed against the Hokage, then it's my turn.". In addition to putting on a scene where Code threatens to use force against Boro, and Boro retreats.
I just consider the anime to be a more complete version, since it encompasses some of the novels as well.
By your shin scales to naruto, zetsu scales to madara and base naruto>spsm. Your also being dishonest here. Momoshiki literally tells Sasuke that it’s too late which is why he couldn’t cut of his head. He had already absorbed kimshikis power.stop twisting the story u have been doing this the entire time, u just look biased asf
If u agree that the anime is more canon then why to u still arguing. U literally said it yourself, sasuke got a power up that’s why he’s relative to fused momo
Don't you read? I literally said I'm just thinking in what media we're going to use. You don't need more than 2 neurons to know that there is a clear scale difference between anime and manga. Arguing for an upgrade using elements from both media is bizarre, as you simply take the parts that suit you and build a mixed argument between the two media. You only argument in favor of the manga's scale is that Sasuke "wasn't at his peak", which is nothing more than a guess. You basically say "If Sasuke can hit the fused Momoshiki, then he wasn't going in his maximum against Kinshiki at all." I don't think it's enough to ignore the inconsistencies in relation to Kinshiki, if we take that into account, it would possible mask several inconsistencies in the verse...
