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IIRC it was for pressuring a Sasuke that was either not at his best condition or not going all outWait.
Why is he downscaling?
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IIRC it was for pressuring a Sasuke that was either not at his best condition or not going all outWait.
Why is he downscaling?
Because he exists (The Last, Retsuden novels, Shinden novels).Why do we even have a Blank Period to The Last Sasuke Key?
The OP believes that Fused Momoshiki = Moon Level + via Base Momoshiki + KinshikiSo that would make NE Sasuke and NE Naruto both just Moon level.
The OP argued that the Mangekyo raises Sasuke's APNaruto I can understand but this doesnt make sense for Sasuke considering he was struggling with Kinshiki earlier
OP's reasoning, I believe, is basically that Sasuke was "Not going all out" or that he wasn't using his EMS I thinkNaruto I can understand but this doesnt make sense for Sasuke considering he was struggling with Kinshiki earlier
YeeYeah the Sasuke didn’t use his EMS with Kinshiki.
This was against fused Momo and Kinshiki the second time.And was fatigued from the space time ninjutsu iirc.
Well if we go by Manga, IIRC his only feats against Fused Momoshiki are knocking him away, slicing his Wood constructs, and taking hits from him.My question is
Where is the basis on the rating of moon level "fatigued" Sasuke?
my answer to this is that Sasuke isn't comparable to fused momoshiki without Susanoo.
- You'd have an issue where Kinshiki ~ Sasuke ~ Fused Momoshiki.
- You'd have an issue where the strength gap isn't justifiable.
Question, what exactly is the issue with Kinshiki being slightly weaker than Sasuke? In the scenario that the OP is accepted, Sasuke’s AP would be twice that of Kinshiki’s. Kinshiki being half as powerful as Sasuke but still able to keep up doesn’t seem too unreasonable IMO.You'd have an issue where Kinshiki ~ Sasuke ~ Fused Momoshiki.
I agree with tracer. The author isn’t thinking about Sasuke being 200 exatons stronger than kinshiki. But being half of his strength isn’t outlandish.Question, what exactly is the issue with Kinshiki being slightly weaker than Sasuke? In the scenario that the OP is accepted, Sasuke’s AP would be twice that of Kinshiki’s. Kinshiki being half as powerful as Sasuke but still able to keep up doesn’t seem too unreasonable IMO.
my answer to this is that Sasuke isn't comparable to fused momoshiki without Susanoo.
his legit only feats in the manga is knocking Momoshiki towards the ground and cutting his wood things. in contrast naruto straight up overwhelms Momoshiki.
Question, what exactly is the issue with Kinshiki being slightly weaker than Sasuke? In the scenario that the OP is accepted, Sasuke’s AP would be twice that of Kinshiki’s. Kinshiki being half as powerful as Sasuke but still able to keep up doesn’t seem too unreasonable IMO.
Let’s use the anime feats for Boruto as I stated above the anime is more canon.his legit only feats in the manga is knocking Momoshiki towards the ground and cutting his wood things. in contrast naruto straight up overwhelms Momoshiki.
They have authority to change things and remove stuff from the manga. Also the anime canon arcs that didn’t happen in the manga like Mitsuki retrieval or Kawaki not going to the leaf first but instead meeting sumire. Like the anime showing Sarada learning the chidori or showing Victor more.How is the anime more canon?
What stuff has been removed from the manga's canon?They have authority to change things and remove stuff from the manga. Also the anime canon arcs that didn’t happen in the manga like Mitsuki retrieval or Kawaki not going to the leaf first but instead meeting sumire. Like the anime showing Sarada learning the chidori or showing Victor more.
The anime canon is the main canon of Boruto.
Naruto chasing down Kawaki. A lot of scenes that I can explain in the thread for it. I’ll prepare the thread shortly maybe tmr I don’t wanna spam CRTsWhat stuff has been removed from the manga's canon?
Aye relax, not a lot of people watch the anime consistently. I didn't even know there was that many switchups. I thought it was just added scenesI don’t know if you are playing ignorant or you just don’t know.
I think you should re-read the arguement. No one ever said kinshiki was Low 5B. Not even spsm naruto because the toneri calc was butchered. It’s the majestic attire susano that’s beings scaled to low 5BFor now, I do agree that Naruto God Tiers can be upscaled to the next Tier, since they are close enough. Naruto can one shot a character that is 1.something behind the next Tier, and that's not even his strongest form. So yeah, for now, all characters that scales to SPSM Naruto (teen and adult) should be upscaled to Low 5-B. I don't know about Kinshiki though.
I will be going over the characters that change.Can somebody post a detailed scaling chain here for what is being proposed? I want to see if it makes sense.
Sorry if I sounded hostile but it was a legitimate point a lot of people play ignorance to have the other person go the extra mile to prove their point. I am well informed to how people do not watch the anime consistently so they miss the things that they change.Aye relax, not a lot of people watch the anime consistently. I didn't even know there was that many switchups. I thought it was just added scenes
This is not what I’m sayin. Sasuke while fatigued and no ems=kinshiki. Sasuke with ems=Fused momoshikiTechnically it looks like Kinshiki is just scaling to Sasuke.
And Sasuke is scaling to BSM Naruto in the Last for no clearing reason here:
So the root of it is:
Kinshiki = New Era Sasuke > Blank Period Sasuke = BSM Naruto = Toneri.
Which is a bit eh.
No issues man, and thanks for explaining (I do that too sometimes iwel)Sorry if I sounded hostile but it was a legitimate point a lot of people play ignorance to have the other person go the extra mile to prove their point. I am well informed to how people do not watch the anime consistently so they miss the things that they change.
I mean, base Momo could harm SPSM Nardo and knock him out too even though Nardo ≈ Fused MomoI'm just saying, it feels too weird for a situation of that magnitude to happen.
Question.I will be going over the characters that change.
Fused Momoshiki: Moon Level+
Naruto: Moon Level+,Small Planet Level with majestic attire susano, At least Small Planet Level with Baryon mode.
Sasuke: Moon Level+, Small Planet Level with majestic attire susano
Isshiki: At least Small Planet Level with partial otsutsuki form, far high in true form
Code: At least Small Planet Level
Eida: At least Small Planet Level
Actually, an ‘At least’ doesn’t require you to be close to the next tier. Going off of its definition from the Attack Potency page, an ‘At least’ rating:What warrants an "At least" for the Small Planet level?
The gap between baseline Low 5-B and 5-B is 137x. Saying 137 is insinuating that it's possible for it to be close to that value, which isn't possible.
Should be used to denote the lower cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.
Oof, nvm thenActually, an ‘At least’ doesn’t require you to be close to the next tier. Going off of its definition from the Attack Potency page, an ‘At least’ rating:
Now, if it was something like ‘Small Planet level, likely higher,’ that would require them to be near the next tier.
He was holding back and got captured on purpose this is knownI mean, base Momo could harm SPSM Nardo and knock him out too even though Nardo ≈ Fused Momo
It’s still weird, but it’s Boruto, this shit happens
For all the people that think it’s weird for sasuke to be 2x stronger than kinshiki I encourage you to go and watch the anime’s depiction of the fight. Base sharingan and rinnegan sasuke literally gets his ass whooped and rag dolled by fused momoshiki. Then he literally activated his ems and all of a sudden he was on fused momoshikis level. Sasuke had to teleport and fight enemies he didn’t know and on top of that it was about to become a 2v1 when momoshiki appearedHe wasn’t holding back and got captured on purpose this is known