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Nanatsu no Taizai Maybe Series Finale Revision Part 2: Scaling

Ah Gou said:
While we're revising. Didn't Arthur absorb the magic power stored in the lake from the combined attack of the sins? Is this supposed to mean anything?
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That doesn't mean anything for now.
 
Needing a strong power to unlock an even stronger power means the even stronger power is AT LEAST at the level of the strong power.
 
Ah Gou said:
Needing a strong power to unlock an even stronger power means the even stronger power is AT LEAST at the level of the strong power.
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Update his profile then, but since no one made a profile for Chaos, your claims is too early to take a conclusion from it.

Even tho, others forums already recognized Chaos as at least planet level already.
 
Meliodas' true magic form was stated to be approaching Hawk Mama's level of power, meaning Chaos is the strongest power in the verse and Arthur would scale above Meliodas.
 
But Hawk Mama was "immeasurable", Nakaba was high on crack at the time, this that his comment was disregarded by the community.
 
Take a look at Hawk Mama's profile then. That statement was deemed acceptable. As for NNT not cross scaling, it was deemed useless since Nakaba says he would have a power level of 400k or higher while his feats are way higher than the rest of the verse. That, and we have no confirmed power levels, so it'd be troublesome to deduce who all would scale.
 
@Dooyo

The DK himself claims The One Escanor is his equal and Gowther actually acknowledges that considerable damage is dealt. Your claim that it wasn't stated multiple times is bullshit. I've already outlined why Ban and King don't scale. He couldn't keep up with 50% DK in purgatory and needed Possessed Meliodas to resist control to keep up in Britannia. King couldn't do jack shit against this version while low on magic. Hell, even while fighting alongside Demon Mark Meliodas, they couldn't do jack shit. Ban and King scaling to DK Zeldris is an outlier when compared to their previously established levels. The same thing goes for Near-Noon and The One Escanor. Your claim that DK Britannia is his true 100% is never implied within the story itself and is your own headcanon.
 
It's actually cross scaling in general that is getting debated again. Other cross scaling like Mob and Tatsumaki as well as Reinhard and Kuubou seem to be getting removed from profiles.
 
Didn't the writer of the chapter say Akira's core feat was worth 300 megatons?
 
I'm honestly not surprised that Nakaba over estimates what 300 megatons can do. It's another case of an author not knowing how strong their characters actually are.
 
Arthur was also surprised when Mel countered Gill and Hendri at the same time by saying "huh he's faster than sound?" Hypersonic Mel part 1 confirmed
 
Steve Rogers1 said:
@Dooyo
The DK himself claims The One Escanor is his equal and Gowther actually acknowledges that considerable damage is dealt. Your claim that it wasn't stated multiple times is bullshit. I've already outlined why Ban and King don't scale. He couldn't keep up with 50% DK in purgatory and needed Possessed Meliodas to resist control to keep up in Britannia. King couldn't do jack shit against this version while low on magic. Hell, even while fighting alongside Demon Mark Meliodas, they couldn't do jack shit. Ban and King scaling to DK Zeldris is an outlier when compared to their previously established levels. The same thing goes for Near-Noon and The One Escanor. Your claim that DK Britannia is his true 100% is never implied within the story itself and is your own headcanon.
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Lol no, he was sarcastic as he didn't even use his word nor magic and called it a farce lol.

You need to read again, it isn't an outlier as they managed to damage him as well, in the same fashion as Escanor and worse, you just have bias toward him and downplay Ban and King.

He is at 100% in Britannia because he made Escanor the One Ultimate and the others as a joke and they needed to combine their power + multiples FC to take him down, even King protected Escanor with his barrier against that Explosion.
 
Were Dooyo's recent statistics revisions to the NNT pages accepted here, and if so, what were the reasons for them? Shouldn't the profiles receive new explanations for the changed statistics?
 
Antvasima said:
Were Dooyo's recent statistics revisions to the NNT pages accepted here, and if so, what were the reasons for them? Shouldn't the profiles receive new explanations for the changed statistics?
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What do you think? It fly or not according to you?
 
It is not acceptable to change statistics without staff evaluations and approval. Somebody needs to revert all of Dooyo's recent changes.

Also, Dooyo, it is against our rules to do what you just did. If you do so again, we might have to ban you.
 
Okay. It would be better if you get them to reply in the same content revision thread though.

Anyway, if the character profiles have new statistics, they should also get good clarifying explanations for the reasons that they have them.
 
PrinceOfTheMorning said:
I agreed with Peter's and Mitch's stuff above, I have no idea what Dooyo's been up to and if he's implementing their changes or not.
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I feel the same way/
 
Peter1129 said:
Oh right I should probably mention the changes for the low to mid tiers here. So

Some 3k+ characters like the Sins are at least 7-B (42.6 Megatons) due to being able to hurt Hendrickson who can survive his own attack being full countered back at him with minor injuries.

4k+ characters we actually completely forgot to discuss. So

Pre-Training King (Much stronger than)> Diane w/ Gideon (Much stronger than)> Helbram w/ Link (Comparable to)~ Initial Wrath Meliodas (Much stronger than)> Sealed Demon Mark Meliodas (Stomps)> Ban + Meliodas (At least 56.8 Megatons)

Meliodas was stated to be several times stronger than Ban so Ban probably won't scale to 42.6 Megatons like Sealed Base Meliodas. But even than he would still be at least 14.2 Megatons. So 4k characters would be 56.8 Megatons which is 7-B+.

5k+ characters like Gray Demon Hendrickson should just be at least 7-B+, likely 7-A since he's much stronger than Pre-Training King and pretty much one shot him.

7k-10k should probably just be straight up 7-A as Base Diane and True Spirit Spear King could one shot Albions which are comparable to Gray Demon Hendrickson.

Hunter Fest Ban and Elaine w/ Wings would be at least 7-A, possibly at most 6-C as Ban only stole a bit more than half of Base Galand's strength.

Now anybody from Base Galand's lvl to Fraudrin's lvl should be at least 7-A possibly at most 6-C+ as they don't actually have any feats of scaling to 6-C characters but they shouldn't be completely inferior.

Unsealed Base Meliodas up to Post-Training King should be at most 6-C+ since he could beat up a weakened Drole and King is stated to have power nearly on par with Gloxinia who is stronger than 48k Diane who was stated to have power nearly on par with Drole.

50k+ characters basically Gloxinia and up should be likely 6-C because he's stronger than Drole's Dance Diane who was nearly on par with Drole.

60k+ characters would be High 6-C as they could hurt Deriere who could tank her own attack getting full countered back at her.
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By the way is this fine? We focused so much on the top to god tiers that we kinda forgot to discuss some of the low and mid tiers.
 
Ludo and the Original Demon are not 6-B, Mael who did the 6-B feat One-shots the Original Demon who was stronger than Ludoshel, these changes are wrong and unsupported

I didn't realize these changes were made, but they're definitely wrong
 
For the Chimera Indura, couldn't its durability be rated "At least Low 6-B, possibly 6-B" after taking so many hits from Ban and King?
 
Chimera Indura got completely wrecked casually by King, Ban, Merlin, Diane, and Gowther, he doesn't scale to them at all
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Ludo and the Original Demon are not 6-B, Mael who did the 6-B feat One-shots the Original Demon who was stronger than Ludoshel, these changes are wrong and unsupported
I didn't realize these changes were made, but they're definitely wrong
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You put Elizabeth in that tier which was stated to be Ludo level in the manga
 
Antvasima said:
It is not acceptable to change statistics without staff evaluations and approval. Somebody needs to revert all of Dooyo's recent changes.
Also, Dooyo, it is against our rules to do what you just did. If you do so again, we might have to ban you.
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My bad, I though I could do it because the edit option was valid and I wanted to help to correct it as good as possible
 
PLEASE READ THIS AS IT IS MORE ACCURATE SCALING

Thinking over it again, there is no confirmation to scale Prime Demon Mark Meliodas to Afternoon Sunshine Mael, Full Power Meliodas scales to Full Power Mael, so that means that they both only scale to at least 6-B, we can only scale Prime Demon Mark Meliodas far above True Form Ludoshel, which would make him Low 6-B and not 6-B, so it would mean a slight downgrade to some of the characters

This would be the new scaling...

Unknown: 1st Form Demon King Zeldris

458.83 Gigatons: Sariel, Tarmiel, Near-Noon Escanor, 2C Estarossa, 3C Estarossa, 3C Mael

1.37649 Teratons: Near-Noon Escanor durability, Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas, True Form Cusack, True Form Chandler, Merlin with Infinity, Zeldris with God and Ominous Nebula and Ludoshel Possessing Margaret

2.75298 Teratons: Original Demon, True Body Ludoshel, Indra Deriere, Indra Monspeet, Chimera Indra

At least 2.75298 Teratons: Prime Demon Mark Meliodas, Prime Elizabeth, 4C Mael

64.87 Teratons: Afternoon Sunshine Mael, 2nd Demon Mark Zeldris with God and Ominous Nebula, The One Escanor, Post-Purgatory Base Meliodas, Post-Purgatory Ban, Full Wings King, Demon King Meliodas, 2nd Form Demon King Zeldris

At least 64.87 Teratons: Prime Assault Mode Meliodas, Near Noon Mael, Post-Purgatory Demon Mark Meliodas

At least 64.87 Teratons, likely higher: The One Mael

At least 97.305 Teratons: 50% Demon King, 50% Supreme Deity, Wild with Wild Full Trottle

At least 194.61 Teratons: Post-Purgatory Assault Mode Meliodas, The One Ultimate Escanor, 100% Demon King, 100% Supreme Deity, Full Power Demon King Zeldris, Demon King Britannia, True Magic Meliodas

Slight downgrade for some characters, but this is a more accurate scaling
 
Duedate8898 said:
@Antvasima Didn't realize that, I'll go check over what he's done and reverse it.
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Thank you for helping out. Please make sure to reverse all of the edits.
 
They were stated to be equals at full power, that would mean Near Noon to The One Mael is equal to Prime Assault Mode Meliodas, that battle could have had them both go all out, also we don't know if Mael at the start of the battle was during Mid-Morning, Near-Noon, or Afternoon

Point being, we can't scale Prime Demon Mark Meliodas to 6-B
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
PLEASE READ THIS AS IT IS MORE ACCURATE SCALINGThinking over it again, there is no confirmation to scale Prime Demon Mark Meliodas to Afternoon Sunshine Mael, Full Power Meliodas scales to Full Power Mael, so that means that they both only scale to at least 6-B, we can only scale Prime Demon Mark Meliodas far above True Form Ludoshel, which would make him Low 6-B and not 6-B, so it would mean a slight downgrade to some of the characters
This would be the new scaling...

Unknown: 1st Form Demon King Zeldris

458.83 Gigatons: Sariel, Tarmiel, Near-Noon Escanor, 2C Estarossa, 3C Estarossa, 3C Mael

1.37649 Teratons: Near-Noon Escanor durability, Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas, True Form Cusack, True Form Chandler, Merlin with Infinity, Zeldris with God and Ominous Nebula and Ludoshel Possessing Margaret

2.75298 Teratons: Original Demon, True Body Ludoshel, Indra Deriere, Indra Monspeet, Chimera Indra

At least 2.75298 Teratons: Prime Demon Mark Meliodas, Prime Elizabeth, 4C Mael

64.87 Teratons: Afternoon Sunshine Mael, 2nd Demon Mark Zeldris with God and Ominous Nebula, The One Escanor, Post-Purgatory Base Meliodas, Post-Purgatory Ban, Full Wings King, Demon King Meliodas, 2nd Form Demon King Zeldris

At least 64.87 Teratons: Prime Assault Mode Meliodas, Near Noon Mael, Post-Purgatory Demon Mark Meliodas

At least 64.87 Teratons, likely higher: The One Mael

At least 97.305 Teratons: 50% Demon King, 50% Supreme Deity, Wild with Wild Full Trottle

At least 194.61 Teratons: Post-Purgatory Assault Mode Meliodas, The One Ultimate Escanor, 100% Demon King, 100% Supreme Deity, Full Power Demon King Zeldris, Demon King Britannia, True Magic Meliodas

Slight downgrade for some characters, but this is a more accurate scaling
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You realize that Ludoshel is stated to be comparable to Elizabeth in the manga or you are ignoring it on purpose.

Why not " at least " for him but her, it is okay even tho, her feat is shit compared to him lol
 
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