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Nanatsu no Taizai: God Tiers Downgrade
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Maybe he doesn’t
After all in NNT, they call Brittannia a continent, when IRL, that shit is a country
And Ocean means a very large expanse of water, there’s nothing that specifically denotes it’s size, and I’m not ok with assuming it’s millions of killometers big when we never see it being even remotely that size
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Dude, it is LITERALLY on a different dimension created by the graces, it isn't headcanon lol
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fine ill play your game aubin , even if we never saw the full size , the graces are LITERAL so we dont got a choice but to use a irl ocean... so either way its a country feat.... and btw this is happening now cuz yall wont leave the verse alone
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You are just being obtuse at this point and playing semantics game
Ocean in IRL also mean a very large expanse of water, let's see, you want me to bring the Japanese raw chapter and see the word used? If it is the same word as "Ocean", then you will have no leg to stand on.
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Your entire argument is “The Ocean is literal”
Saying it over and over changes absolutely nothing, we never see this domain be that big and it having the name Ocean doesn’t mean it’s the same size as a real life Ocean
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You guys are ******* up the thread with so many quick comments and no elaboration
Lormac_CC
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True, I can't even make my agurment
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It could be bigger than a real-life one for all we know, why you automatically "assume" that it is smaller without any evidence?
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Cause we never see it being even remotely close to the size of a real life Ocean... And on VSBW, when we have to assume variables, we lowball
It being larger is baseless
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Literally portrayed as being Ocean
Called as being an Ocean on the scan
You are just in denial at this point, do you think the author literally draw the ENTIRE Ocean on a single panel? His intent was clear here.
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Basically, he refuses to see it as being an Ocean lol. I literally gave him the smallest Ocean irl and he still refuses.
Which Ocean I find? A river lol
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sorry, but im going to work either way, your calc plus ocean needs a huge talking but ima leave it to you guys ...sigh wish i was unemployed
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Perhaps...
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He drew a lot of water that wasn’t remotely close to the size of a real ocean and wasn’t stated to be the size of a real ocean
Literally portrayed as being Ocean
Called as being an Ocean on the scan
You are just in denial at this point, do you think the author literally draw the ENTIRE Ocean on a single panel? His intent was clear here.
You’re entire argument is that because it’s called “Ocean”, it is the same size as a real life ocean, even tho that’s a blatant naming fallacy
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no sir.... the names are LITERAL so it being called ocean IS infact a REAL ocean...
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Hey, someone has to do the jobs that can save lives, I respect you for that
Can you give more evidence then this, as in proof that all graces are literal to their names
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From what I’m seeing, the only argument for this is that because it gets called an ocean, it has to be the size of a real-life ocean. That sounds like a reach to me, especially given how little we seem to know about the ocean’s size to begin with.
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Sorry, but we're not going to assume ocean size for that.
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i gotta go so this my last comment, theres two proofs for it but there both on the RAW side pages which no one can find the old chapters for i got one proof but not the other yall can try to find it if you want tho http://prntscr.com/17hnrz0
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What is it then? Tell me, a river? lol
You are saying that Nakaba doesn't know what an Ocean is? I am done, such intellectual dishonesty is too much for me.
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You can still safely assume the smallest Ocean sized for that which is fair unless of course, you don't buy that it is an Ocean despite being called as one in both the raw and the official translation.
What do you make about the author's intent? Statements have no values now?
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It’s still too vague. Even if it’s called an ocean, doesn’t always mean it’s the size of one. We can’t assume as such. We can’t assume the size of even the smallest ocean was being accounted for when it was being decided on being called an ocean.
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After reading the chapters containing info about the cloud feat, I came with this
Chandler turning to the original demon was what created the clouds up to Daine's location
In some panels the darkness where shown to be under the clouds
Mael clearing the darkness and cloud half way wouldn't make sense
The original demon creating the cloud can also be calculated
Chandler turning to the original demon was what created the clouds up to Daine's location
In some panels the darkness where shown to be under the clouds
Mael clearing the darkness and cloud half way wouldn't make sense
The original demon creating the cloud can also be calculated
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Except we clearly don't see the Original Demon ever have Weather Manipulation or ever show creating clouds
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When it is too vague, shouldn't we use the low-end reference of an Ocean? I don't see how it is unreasonable unless you don't buy that it is an Ocean at all.
If it is the case, then what is it? A river lol
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Must a character be shown to have an ability before using it for the first time
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You’re arguing semantics right now. The thing is, there’s not really a notable cutoff for the size an ocean is required to be in order to be called an ocean. That’s what makes it unreliable.
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There is a difference between an attack name and describing a phenomenon. That is a false equivalence fallacy.
Sariel literally described on the panel that it was an Ocean by stating how futile it was to fight the waves.
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No, but we must at least see him use the ability or have powers related to that ability
We never see him create the clouds and we don't see him have cloud based abilities, Anime supports this as well
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Except that it isn't, we have a scan of the Ocean with an unknown size, therefore what is the problem with taking reference from the smallest IRL Ocean?
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discuss any other ocean stuff here.
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