NNT Ocean Feat discussion

[DaReaperMan]

Just continuing from here to here, since the other thread was being cluttered I made this partly as a request and partly as me just wanting to continue the discussion.

so discuss!

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

GBE+Horizon Distance

That's what should be used

 

[CloverDragon03]

GBE+Horizon Distance

That's what should be used

You mean GPE, right? I came up with something.

According to what was said before, average depth is 1205 meters. It goes out to the horizon on all sides so 20 km is the radius, meaning 40 km length and width, and density of water is 1000 kg/meters^3, so...

40000 * 40000 * 1205 * 1000 = 1.928e+15 kg

Center of mass would be 602.5 meters and gravitational acceleration is 9.81 m/s^2 so...

GPE = 1.928e+15 * 602.5 * 9.81 = 1.1395492e+19 Joules or 2.72 gigatons (Large Mountain level+)

There we go.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

condensation method is better

Energy = ((100000*100000*3682)*1023.6)*2264705
Energy = 8.5354358e+22 Joules (6-B)

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

condensation method is better

Energy = ((50000*50000*3682)*1023.6)*2264705
Energy = 2.133859e+22 Joules (Low 6-B+)

Never seen that method before, we sure it checks out and is being used?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

It is an accepted method, so it is probably usable

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

It is an accepted method, so it is probably usable

It's a method from a Naruto Calc, until I see it being fully accepted and used, I'm skeptical

 

[Lormac_CC]

condensation method is better

Energy = ((100000*100000*3682)*1023.6)*2264705
Energy = 8.5354358e+22 Joules (6-B)

Wow

 

[Epsilon_R]

Actually, are we sure Tarmiel condensed water here?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

No, but yes

It is a method that is used in a similar feat. I don't know why it can't be used

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

No, but yes

It is a method that is used in a similar feat. I don't know why it can't be used

Cause it's a Naruto Calc Method and those always get nuked or revised all the time

 

[CloverDragon03]

I’m not the most familiar, but can we be sure that he condensed the water instead of just flat out creating it?

 

[DaReaperMan]

hmmm, I think other calc group members should be here for this, since this is specifically talking about calculations and a condensation calculation method

 

[CloverDragon03]

condensation method is better

Energy = ((100000*100000*3682)*1023.6)*2264705
Energy = 8.5354358e+22 Joules (6-B)

The condensation method aside, what you used for the horizon is wanked. 20 km is the standard horizon distance, and since that’s the viewing distance on all sides, 40 km is the length and width.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

• On clear days (no rain, fog or snow) the visibility is about 20km. On very clear days it can be around 50km and on exceptionally clear days even 280km. On slightly hazy days it can also just be 10km.

People forget some parts

 

[DaReaperMan]

I see we have a low-low end, a Low end, a mid-end, and a high-end

 

[CloverDragon03]

• On clear days (no rain, fog or snow) the visibility is about 20km. On very clear days it can be around 50km and on exceptionally clear days even 280km. On slightly hazy days it can also just be 10km.

People forget some parts

Is it clear enough to warrant 50 km? Not sure what qualifies for a difference between clear and very clear.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Is it clear enough to warrant 50 km? Not sure what qualifies for a difference between clear and very clear.

Well, there was nothing in the sky(that I know of), and the rest we know of was either a blue or white void, I'd even argue for exceptionally clear at that point

 

[Zezu1995]

hmm do yall think we can use the animes version and see what happens?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Nah, cause the Anime versions can’t be used over Manga versions, especially NNT’s Anime, which skips important content

 

[Loyd]

skimming the chapter was estarossa bfr'd into the god domain dimension?

 

[Zezu1995]

skimming the chapter was estarossa bfr'd into the god domain dimension?

yes

 

[Loyd]

was it debunked? or did it require both sariel and tamriel? why don't they have bfr in thr profile?

 

[Zezu1995]

lets get something straight tarmiel ocean is HIS own power while sariel created the SKY above said ocean, the dimension is when both OCEAN/TORNADO graces fuse .

 

[Epsilon_R]

You should just ask calc members to comment here

 

[PrinceofPein]

lets get something straight tarmiel ocean is HIS own power while sariel created the SKY above said ocean, the dimension is when both OCEAN/TORNADO graces fuse .

So quick question, did they create the said dimension right there? or it has been created before?
second question, aside for the figure of speech describing how useless it is for estarossa to struggle is there any other concrete prove it is an ocean?
cause currently i am agreeing with this

GBE+Horizon Distance

That's what should be used

 

[Zezu1995]

So quick question, did they create the said dimension right there? or it has been created before?
second question, aside for the figure of speech describing how useless it is for estarossa to struggle is there any other concrete prove it is an ocean?
cause currently i am agreeing with this

created , nothing said it was pre made . Would it matter btw?

 

[PrinceofPein]

created , nothing said it was pre made . Would it matter btw?

if it was pre made then the feat can not be used since the method used and how is unknown so it can not be scaled to AP

 

[Zezu1995]

ah i see, well theres no proof it was pre made so i dont think we gotta worry about that

 

[Zezu1995]

imo we could try to use the thunders they used via graces http://prntscr.com/17oj49f

 

[Lormac_CC]

Bomb

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

There’s no good way to calc water creation, maybe just using the storm from their domains is better

 

[Epsilon_R]

Is there a calc member knowledgeable on water creation calc?

 

[Migue79]

Use mass-energy. Energy was totally expanded here for this feat soooooooo

Okay, real talk. Uh... I guess why not just use GPE- Oh, wait.

You mean GPE, right? I came up with something.

According to what was said before, average depth is 1205 meters. It goes out to the horizon on all sides so 20 km is the radius, meaning 40 km length and width, and density of water is 1000 kg/meters^3, so...

40000 * 40000 * 1205 * 1000 = 1.928e+15 kg

Center of mass would be 602.5 meters and gravitational acceleration is 9.81 m/s^2 so...

GPE = 1.928e+15 * 602.5 * 9.81 = 1.1395492e+19 Joules or 2.72 gigatons (Large Mountain level+)

There we go.

Someone already beat me to it.

I believe DT said either GPE/KE check out for Creation of water for a certain Naruto thread involving something very similar to this.

So... Yeah. I guess I feel most comfortable with this approach from what I see...

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

GPE it is then

 

[StrawHatArslan]

ok good

 

[CloverDragon03]

Use mass-energy. Energy was totally expanded here for this feat soooooooo

Okay, real talk. Uh... I guess why not just use GPE- Oh, wait.

Someone already beat me to it.

I believe DT said either GPE/KE check out for Creation of water for a certain Naruto thread involving something very similar to this.

So... Yeah. I guess I feel most comfortable with this approach from what I see...

Thanks. I'll put it into a blog real quick.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Thanks. I'll put it into a blog real quick.

Update: It has been created.

 

[Zezu1995]

makes the feat look fodder but unless no one else has another oh well.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Every feat is fodder by VSBW standards