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So people with these powers how are defeated in their verses?
It takes a while to fully overwrite the host, one was sealed, One was absorbed by another otsutsuki, One succeeding in Planting his Karma (and was forced to not be able to ressurect) and the last could not do it
 
It takes a while to fully overwrite the host, one was sealed, One was absorbed by another otsutsuki, One succeeding in Planting his Karma (and was forced to not be able to ressurect) and the last could not do it
Okay, then i'll write that Saitama will lose against Genjutsu and Edo tensei users and against Otsutsukis, okay?
 
Because that's definitely in character for him.
Yes and even if not Saitama don't need to blow up earth to obliterate tier 6 fodders on subatomic level
Law can just teleport sugar on him and he gets turned to a toy/erased from history that way
Moria can take his shadow and have him get EE'D by sunlight.
Law spatial hax violation from tens of kilometers away go brrr
Status don't fight back + Fodders hax working on someone over 10 tiers above the verse where's the god tiers are ******* bricks (Roger, Whitebeard, Kaido) is a funny NLF
Hax worshipers are ******* joke

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Again, on who did he used it? How he was defeated? That ability has a weakness or a limit?
 
I controlled and saw that the force works on people with a weak mind/willpower
Yeah, but only in main canon. EU dudes are just built different last I checked.
 
Also Saitama can't really access the Idea of Evil, so he probably just gets causality manip'd or something for Berserk.
Garou unironically does better tbh, he has that BFR portal creation.
 
Yeah, but that's not even a fight, it's just the Idea of Evil controlling the fate of humanity.
You said verse. Saitama can't defeat the Berserk Verse, he gets fate/causality manip'd by an entity he not only isn't aware of, but cant even reach.
He probably also gets super aids or something via the God Hand from the astral plane.
There's also the god of rot, and a bunch of other wacky gods that exist deep into the astral plane.

There are more canons? And how it works in the others?
There's the current main canon, Disney canon. Where it only really works on the weak minded.
Then there's EU, extended universe, also know as Legend featuring all the wacky stuff pre buy out like a bunch of novels, games, and more. And in that, any dude worth a damn can just do it, some to a ridiculous degree. It just works, it's you resist it or you get effected type thing.
 
You said verse. Saitama can't defeat the Berserk Verse, he gets fate/causality manip'd by an entity he not only isn't aware of, but cant even reach.
If the Idea of Evil just stays there and can't fight then it doesn't count, since here Saitama is fighting against characters
He probably also gets super aids or something via the God Hand from the astral plane.
There's also the god of rot, and a bunch of other wacky gods that exist deep into the astral plane.
Saitama should be able to reach the astral plane and defeat them
It just works, it's you resist it or you get effected type thing.
So Saitama should be able to resist
 
Berserk negs OPMverse and half the verses on this list

Any of the God Hand fold him

Idea of Evil against OPM is just lol

He can't even interact with any of them due to Abstract Existence
 
He can interacte when they get a physical body.
Anyway if the two opponents can't fight each other then the fight is inconclusive
He can interact with the avatars they create but he can't beat the God Hand themselves as they have abstract existence

They can beat him but he can't interact with them, a stomp not an inconclusive
 
How can yhey defeat him?
They're fated to win and can manipulate causality in order to make themselves win
Causality Manipulation and Fate Manipulation via the Idea of Evil (Can manipulate the flow of cause and effect to any result he desires, which also allows him to manipulate fate itself. His existence and entire life is planned by Idea of Evil, which makes this ability passive, and makes his opponent unable to hit him, as every attack is fated not to connect)
Passively turns Saitama into a slave
And apparently they can soul hax him though I don't remember it being used
can bypass durability with soul manipulation and many other abilities.
 
Fate manipulation cannot be bypassed, so Saitama will not touch them.

Subjective reality shouldn't work since Saitama comes from another verse and should not work on someone outside of the traditional flow of casuality.

His carisma isn't enough, since Saitama has an incredible willpower

I don't know how their soul manipulation works
 
Just woke up but yeah basically what Purgy said. And can't reach because IoE is like a billion layers deep into the astral plane.
Subjective reality shouldn't work since Saitama comes from another verse and should not work on someone outside of the traditional flow of casuality.
Saitama is unironically APART of the traditional flow of causality, remember the "reversal of causality punch" that effected himself and he forgot everything that happened in the future? Yeah, he abides by causality.
 
Rot God decays him and Conrad gives him super aids, are just two of dozens of ways I can think of.
 
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