I was referring moreso to the homing attack than the Spin Dash. If Sonic's homing in on him, I don't think there's a lot he can do. At least if the statement of him trying to replicate a sword style as a counter is his way of attempting to counter.
If he realizes Sonic will literally cut him in half (he will) the last thing he's going to do is try to block the attack with his bare hands. He'd block it with his weapons (his staff) of which he can literally freely copy thousands of at his leisure to use as cannon fodder.
Does his staffs durability scale above his own? If so, sure, that works. If not, Sonic kinda just saws through it and him.
Yes, they do scale above his durability.
By how much? Is it like, unquantifiable, or is there a value it scales to?
Unquantifiable in this key.
It means literally what you just said.
Skill.
Nah, he read their teleport and appeared where they were going to appear so fast that they were shocked. Chapter 198. Like azontr said, I worded it a little weirdly.
Well given Sonic starts off with about a 9x AP advantage, and and cleanly cut through robots comparable to him, I'm certain he'd cut through clean it and Mori with any of his notable cutting attacks (i.e. Spin Dash, Homing Attack, etc.)
I understand what it means, I was referring to the way the ability works. Some people redirect attacks through physical means, some use esoteric magic.
Yeah, then I'm under the impression Sonic will just home attack through the weapon and then Mori.
Can you show me Sonic ever home-attacking through getting his power redirected somewhere else? It's not exactly something his brand of "lock-on" homing can circumvent without evidence.
If the means of redirecting his force is by using skill to change his direction via hand movement or other means (Such as a slap ala Dragon Ball style hitting a ki blast to the side), then I strongly disagree with the notion that it can redirect ANY type of attack. Including from forces 9x stronger than yourself that can cut clean through things becoming a living Buzzsaw. If Mori has feats of redirecting such attacks, then I'd concede on that point (Though he may have feats home attacking through stuff that redirects attacks with how many games he has, but I'd have to look).
No? You're thinking Mori literally slaps it away like Goku, I'm saying Mori literally controls the flow of power like Garou. He's not literally HITTING Sonic away like a ball.
I'm not caught up with One Punch Man, so I don't know the full extent of his redirection skills, but from what I recall, it had to do with martial arts and hand movements and momentum to transfer the force back (Correct me if I'm wrong. It's been a couple years since I read back on Garou's appearance)? If so, I'd place the same limitation on Garou. I wouldn't say he can redirect forces that are nearly a magnitude above him and have sharp cutting properties either.
And you would be incorrect. There's a difference between hitting someone away like a ball and using precise hand movements to redirect momentum to a different location. Whether you think that's how it works or not isn't exactly my issue.
I don't have them immediately but I can get them like rn. Hold on.
I think that's bullshit at least in the case of Garou. The only attack redirection that comes to mind was when he fought Tank Top Master, and to do that, he had to get punched in the face himself
It's... kinda hard to tell what's going on here? It looks like he caught her foot, had a flashback, and then used her momentum to slide under her?
Garou did not HAVE to get punched in the face to execute the attack, he let himself get hit because he was ******* with Tanktop Master.
He let her attack touch him then twisted so that her energy would be added to his energy when he kicked.
I haven't believed that's how it works since you elaborated it was not the case the first time.
The issue is, how would Sonic even get to a point where he's "grazing" Mori if he's gonna home for center mass into he cleaves right through him? I don't think the water stream example is getting through to me. I think an example of something closer to a fight was used. Or even another sport analogy.
Is there any other examples? Because if he lets Sonic touch him for an attack like he let her, he won't be able to shift that momentum as Sonic's quills will cut right through his hand the moment they come into contact.
Mori can just shift to the side last moment. Sonic's homing attack hasn't been shown to me to be able to shift trajectory so minutely the moment it makes contact with a target.
Skill issue.
That's not how blades work. You don't cut completely through a substance the instant the tip of your blade comes into contact with the target, so unless Sonic can do that he's not shredding jack.
It can adjust its movement up until it DOES hit the target. But yes, after it hits the target, it can't change trajectory. But given its a blitz amp, Sonic will go through Mori before he can make the minute movement, and even if he did make the movement, Sonic will have cut into him.
Sonic's not like a "blade", he's like a Buzzsaw or a chainsaw. It means the moment that something makes contact with him, they start getting saw open due to his constant rotation while he's in a ball. So yes, he won't cut entirely through him. He will cut into him tho. And since most of his attacks are blitz amps, Mori can't make any meaningful movements before Sonic DOES cut through him. If he moves BEFORE Sonic makes contact, then his attack simply shifts trajectory to hit him center mass and cuts him in half regardless.
Mori can react to attacks over 400 times faster than himself via his Instinctive Reactions, so, "blitz-amp" isn't particularly useful.
If he doesn't cut through Mori completely the instant he comes into contact with him then Mori has ample time to counter.
Does he react in advance? If so, I covered that. If he can actually keep UP with a person via instinctive reaction, he should just outright scale to that person for being able to continuously react to attacks. Or this a weird case where his body can move 400x faster than he can move it conciouslsy?
While I don't feel like checking if there's examples of Sonic cutting through something completely before going all the way through it, Sonic can use insta-shield which spawns in a blade of air around him that would just cut right through Mori.
Is it the third thing?
Sure, but he can't redirect air that spawns inside him and has already cut through him.
Yes.
Not what's happening in the clip nor what you said it does.
Kk. I'll take your word for it. I did plan to read the series at some point since it seems interesting.
Because Sonic used it when he was like a meter away from the enemy. You can spawn the insta shield around Sonic at any point mid-jump by pressing the a button again UP UNTIL you've already hit the enemy. The slash of air spawns around him yes, but if he's inches away from the enemy, the attack spawns inside the enemy and blows them up. This is why its listed as forcefield negation on his page. Because you can spawn it around Sonic when he's close to a shield to spawn it in the shield to hit the enemy without needing to touch them.
No he didn't. He was literally directly above the enemy when the blade of air shot out.
Are we looking at the same gif at all? Let me show you the exact frame it came out.
If you expect me to see the ******* exact frames an extremely small blade comes out in a pixelated gif to hit an extremely small target which is then obscured by smoke then idk wtf you want.
Show me that.
Not the exact frame, but it's quite clear if you look at the gif closely that he uses it when he's fairly distanced from the enemy. I can't be the ONLY one who sees that. I have alright eyes, but they ain't crazy.
Honestly, finding a clip of it would be hard. I honestly think it would be easier to just google Sonic 3 & Knuckles since they have so many emulators to test for yourself. If you don't wanna do that tho, I'll go look for a clip now.
It's not.
I'm not gonna play a game to get evidence you could just give me.
Skill issue tbh
You wouldn't need to play the whole game
. You'd just have to find the first enemy of the very first level and tap the jump button after already having jumped. But alright, I'll see if I can find it. It might take a while since most people don't even use the damn thing.
Don't care. Gib clip.
Holy **** I got lucky and found one. God damn people need to use the insta shield more
Holy **** I got lucky and found one. God damn people need to use the insta shield more
Here's the frame he uses it and it spawns inside the radio he hit:
He used the insta shield which has a hit box. The insta shield hit the radio and caused it to blow up. There's other clips in the same video if you'd like other examples.
I know he used the shield- My point is his shield attack did not spawn INSIDE of the thing. I'm no hard-core Sonic fan but even I know when shit gets destroyed in-game, it blows up. Like you don't need to destroy shit from the inside out in these games to get them to blow up.
That's not the point of the clip. The point is if he's close enough to an enemy, the insta shield or rather slash of enemy starts inside the enemy and circles around Sonic for a split second, cutting around Sonic until it disappears after a rotation.
Are you saying you think the shield has NO offensive properties? If so, then you NEED to play the game. There's no way I convince you if you think the shield doesn't also hit the enemy. You can EASILY tell it's happening when you play for yourself, and it's even noted on the Sonic news network
Literally even the FRAMES you showed me of the enemy blowing up don't show the slash attack starting inside the opponent. That's just straight-up not what happened.
Not what I said. I said the explosion effect isn't exclusive to the shield.
