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Medaka Vs Kars ... mission accomplished sir.
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You're allowed to argue, you just can't vote.
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Also mentioning whitesnake can do power and explicit ability stealing and removal .
Maybe. Depending on the ability and power . Origin and base and nature of the power mostly man .
Maybe. Depending on the ability and power . Origin and base and nature of the power mostly man .
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Ok time to start crushing Kars.
Time Stop is useless as Medaka also has a time stop so they null each-other. Kars can't resist Medaka's time stop via being (pseudo time stop, not actual one) and Medaka has no feat of resisting time stop.
Medaka can copy Kars' powers. If you wanna go by that, then no one could hold Medaka's powers (due to the monster inside) so Akuto Sai ain't copying it either eh? No. Medaka's copy is not gonna care of that, she already is a perfect being so she can copy that. And as for more than 1 stand, she can just bypass that fact like Kars did or just copy the abilities of a stand instead of copying the stand itself. Medaka also has a soul so she can just make her soul acomplish the abilities. (That's The End my man, if he can do it then why can't I?)
Medaka's Mind Read >>> Kars' mind read. As he actually read minds while Medaka just gets signals from them. So for Medaka it's like Kars' is saying everything out loud. He is not doing that, though his mind is doing that "always" Medaka is the only one who can read such signals coming from the mind doe (in case u were gonna say resist, yeah no, she's not inside his mind, his mind passively releases signals which Medaka can capture).
Bookmaker will null any stand before it even does anything. So fight starts, Kars tries to do anything, he gets sealed and becomes fodder. Rendering useless Time Travel and all his methods for ending Medaka. As well as anything tbh. Battle Rules say Bookmaker activates first.
Let's see the arguments now.
Time Stop is useless as Medaka also has a time stop so they null each-other. Kars can't resist Medaka's time stop via being (pseudo time stop, not actual one) and Medaka has no feat of resisting time stop.
Medaka can copy Kars' powers. If you wanna go by that, then no one could hold Medaka's powers (due to the monster inside) so Akuto Sai ain't copying it either eh? No. Medaka's copy is not gonna care of that, she already is a perfect being so she can copy that. And as for more than 1 stand, she can just bypass that fact like Kars did or just copy the abilities of a stand instead of copying the stand itself. Medaka also has a soul so she can just make her soul acomplish the abilities. (That's The End my man, if he can do it then why can't I?)
Medaka's Mind Read >>> Kars' mind read. As he actually read minds while Medaka just gets signals from them. So for Medaka it's like Kars' is saying everything out loud. He is not doing that, though his mind is doing that "always" Medaka is the only one who can read such signals coming from the mind doe (in case u were gonna say resist, yeah no, she's not inside his mind, his mind passively releases signals which Medaka can capture).
Bookmaker will null any stand before it even does anything. So fight starts, Kars tries to do anything, he gets sealed and becomes fodder. Rendering useless Time Travel and all his methods for ending Medaka. As well as anything tbh. Battle Rules say Bookmaker activates first.
Let's see the arguments now.
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Im trying hard to only go off what the profile lists and explicitly accepted .
Earl expect ya do the same man .
Earl expect ya do the same man .
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Ofc, if i do something that's not accepted, pls point it out.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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@J-Man, to clarify, Medaka's time stop is not actually stopping time - it's reducing the time that it takes to complete her actions to 0. So the World time stop resist would not help.
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^^^^Monarch Laciel said:
A man of culture who has read my blog. xD
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@Fire I kinda doubt she can overcome the "one stand per person rule"
Saying Akuto Sai can't copy it is a massive false equivalency
Saying Akuto Sai can't copy it is a massive false equivalency
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I already explained. She will only copy their abilities, not the stand itself. She can "learn" abilities, forgot?Monarch Laciel said:
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That is fair enough, but it still requires Kars to pull out the stand firstFirephoenixearl said:
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Passive mind read.Monarch Laciel said:
And also Medaka doesn't need his skills to win here. She can just bookmaker instantly.
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@Fire, Kars is implied to have a mind for every species on the planet, and at the very least he has "countless" minds within him (even when his mind discs were pouring out of him like a waterfall, they still didn't stop pouring out of him after several minutes) So reading all those signals at once might be a tad difficult.
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Because Fire enjoys using metaphors and likening things to other things in his arguments.ALRF said:
Except he often runs into the false equivalency fallacy, like when he compares a tier 6 character to a High 1-A
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Firephoenixearl said:
Sir Ovens said:
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That is what I saidSir Ovens said:
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Kars can time stop dio who resists time stop . Also ya described medaka not having endyrance .
You completely missed the point dio was also a perfect being and ate and absorbed kars despite that he couldnt. Kars powers have fears of essentially cockblocking what medaka can do. Kars himself has multiple souls earl. That probably plays a part actualy .
Excluding the fact kars obtained the ability to stop thinking and he has numerous minds within him. He does a lot of what he dies based on pure " instinct " . Also that doesnt do a lot for medaka. A lot of his stands are automatic bar a handful . Kq for exampke .
D4c being uneffected by what happens to kars would say hello . That would force a btd. Why ya ask well thats obviously clear . Kq isnt his stand. Its completely unefected by what happened to kars because kq willingly told kira bite him and kars his best friend and kira a bitch . Made clear that would have queen automatically play a win card for kars early .
You completely missed the point dio was also a perfect being and ate and absorbed kars despite that he couldnt. Kars powers have fears of essentially cockblocking what medaka can do. Kars himself has multiple souls earl. That probably plays a part actualy .
Excluding the fact kars obtained the ability to stop thinking and he has numerous minds within him. He does a lot of what he dies based on pure " instinct " . Also that doesnt do a lot for medaka. A lot of his stands are automatic bar a handful . Kq for exampke .
D4c being uneffected by what happens to kars would say hello . That would force a btd. Why ya ask well thats obviously clear . Kq isnt his stand. Its completely unefected by what happened to kars because kq willingly told kira bite him and kars his best friend and kira a bitch . Made clear that would have queen automatically play a win card for kars early .
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I already explained. She will only copy their abilities, not the stand itself. She can "learn" abilities, forgot?
That is fair enough, but it still requires Kars to pull out the stand first
Actually all stand abilities do not require the stand to be sumoned with the exception of das boot and cmoon.
That is fair enough, but it still requires Kars to pull out the stand first
Actually all stand abilities do not require the stand to be sumoned with the exception of das boot and cmoon.
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That's an argument on Medaka's side then.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
Bookmaker is gonna 1 shot and win via incap. Bookmaker is a win condition, she doesn't need to kill him afterwards.
Medaka's Mind Read is "perfect" if i may say that.
Medaka already bypasses the 1 stand per rule as she's not gonna copy any stand, just skills so the 1 stand per person doesn't apply.
All Fiction vs Time Stop. They are the same thing nulling themselves. Neither resists and it's speed equalized. Also Bookmaker out speeds them both. It activates before Kars' skills 1 shotting him.
There is currently nothing Kars can do to escape from getting Bookmakered.
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... Ya do realize thats not how that works right?
Btd and d4c says hi .
Yare yare daze ...
The stand and skill come as a combo. And medaka wouldnt be aware of a fatal and lethal flaw that medaka would probably do .
Even ohkoing kars wont prevent btd and d4c which is what stops medaka man .
But there actually is and theres at least two even of which would work fine my man .
D4c and bite za dusto are his saving ability and win card . Especially as d4c and btd are unefected by what damage and hax kars would be effected by .
Btd and d4c says hi .
Yare yare daze ...
The stand and skill come as a combo. And medaka wouldnt be aware of a fatal and lethal flaw that medaka would probably do .
Even ohkoing kars wont prevent btd and d4c which is what stops medaka man .
But there actually is and theres at least two even of which would work fine my man .
D4c and bite za dusto are his saving ability and win card . Especially as d4c and btd are unefected by what damage and hax kars would be effected by .
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Chaos in this thread
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The thread actual calm and fine.
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@JJ
Ssssh....i'm just posting a meme ovo
Regardless about this match,tbh i'm not sure,maybe they stalemate?
Ssssh....i'm just posting a meme ovo
Regardless about this match,tbh i'm not sure,maybe they stalemate?
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Have ya looked at the points made ?.
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Yeah,but nah i'm neutral here.
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You're being sarcastic right? 0_0Firephoenixearl said:
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D4c and btd make this almost a for certain victory .Veloxt1r0kore said:
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Novel d4c envokes the power of the flea of space .
Also erasure . Which generally medaka cant do a lot about from most threads that mention that man.
Also erasure . Which generally medaka cant do a lot about from most threads that mention that man.
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D4C independently seeks out another Kars and merges with him, bringing them back into the fight.
BTD paradoxes her or something.
BTD paradoxes her or something.
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