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We need a direct statement of its power, the Mind Stone only being powerful and of a high tier isn't usable
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Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft
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It is considering he sees it as a more destructive force then the likes of the bifrost or anything the mind stone as shown them which would include the extinction event Wanda saw
it seems the main problem with the feat is that it’s better then what mainline carol has done considering strange’s feats were accepted or whatever
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That would just work to support a High 6-A rating
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Not really considering the bifrost can destroy planets and Thor still considers the stones destructive force to be above that
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The Bifrost destroying Jotunheim is just High 6-A
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I'm not opposed to the high 6-A interpertation either
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Ya and I’m referring to the fact that Thor knows that there are destructive forces that can destroy planets which the bifrost can do
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I think we can make a thread to upgrade the characters to High 6-A with what we have, 5-C would be unlikely since all the characters would scale from the Hadron Enforcer and it would probably be considered an outlier, anything higher will be impossible since it's just a few iffy statements. We need a clip or video of the statement of interdimensional travel = sun energy though
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Can you post this on vsbwiki and get it evaluated
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I mean if you wasn’t to ignore all the other tier 5 stuff and Ironman straight up blocking blasts from the power stone then I guess sure
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Eh, I personally don't see that much of a problem of scaling them to the Hadron Enforcer, and it doesn't seem all that big of an outlier. Maybe just try proposing that as well and see what people think about it
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We still have Hella destroying Thors hammer at Planet level so..
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That needs to be evaluated but ya there’s that to
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Yeah, also agree with this. The problem would be figuring out who scales above this, which is hard since Ronin is hardly ever mentioned.
At the very least we could get Thanos to scale to it since he was unfazed by Ronin saying he was going to kill him and Korath's statement. (Note that even when Ronin had the powerstone Korath never said the same thing about him)
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Don’t use that don’t use that. KLOL told me later that I used the wrong panel height for the panel and most of my previous calcs that use them use the wrong panel length lol. So uh… yeah gonna have to redo those later
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Ok then just update it when you get the chance
Thor and other high tiers would also scale due to rockets nidvallar statment
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Pre-Awakening Thor and others who are comparable/superior to him would scale to it via Rocket's statement about Nidavellir weapons (aka Mjölnir and Stormbreaker)
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Pfff, forgot about that. Well there you go, solid moon level argument.
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You mean the deleted scenes, hax feats and unevaluated calcs?
And? The Power Stone has a variable power based on the size of the target
Obviously it will be included in the CRT I'm fine with it, I just don't think it's going to be accepted
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Actually I was referring to the WoG, the calculable terraforming of planets(just like the mother boxes) and the soon to be unevaluated calcs. Along with tesseract stuff and possible wormhole stuff
ya when it’s no being controlled by someone, I see no reason why someone can’t output plantery power with the stone agianst a smaller target
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That's what I meant by hax feats, the Aether or Reality Stone works with hax (Reality Warping and Transmutation)
That's surface wiping, which is just High 6-A
That will likely be accepted at High 6-A
Isn't that just Portal Creation/Spatial Manipulation?
Proof?
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If we can't decide, we might propose "At least High 6-A, possibly 5-C", but we would need a calculation for both the values to which they would scale.
For the High 6-A, the Bifrost one, the average value for surface destruction and the energetic output of the Sun should work, while for the 5-C we would need the average value for blowing up a moon.
For the High 6-A, the Bifrost one, the average value for surface destruction and the energetic output of the Sun should work, while for the 5-C we would need the average value for blowing up a moon.
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No that's high 6-A as well since they established you need as much energy as the sun generates which is high 6-A
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I mean if it means anything to the verse page we actually have higher tiered feats listed now that I've updated it so people won't have the same perceptions of the power of the verse as before because for some reason we kept phase 3 as the peak of the feats we listed for so long
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Ya and that can be calced
has then been used on stars?
I mean if people want to ignore the official definition of the meaning “wipe out” then sure
I guess but can’t that be calced considering it takes energy to make a wormhole
Ronan used the stone to amp himself despite it usually just destroying stuff
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It doesn't just destroy stuff though... we have scans that say it can amp people as well
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How? Malekith was transmuting matter into dark matter via Reality Warping, that can't be calculated because it's hax
That would just be 5-C
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If the mother boxes terraforming a planet via matter manlip then why can’t the same be done for the aether
Ok, my point was he can control it to do other things so I don’t see why thanos can’t uses the power stone to shoot out plantery lvl power
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I don't know how the DCEU Mother Boxes work, but two wrongs don't make one right so that's not a valid argument, the Aether only works with Reality Warping and Transmutation, you can't calculate that hax into AP
The scans imply that the amp is passive, not something the user can control at will
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You can considering the creation feats page
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Creation_Feats
If that is true then thanos would have been physically amped agianst the hulk which was stated otherwise by the russos. your scan also says implies the power stone can be used to control energy which would mean the user can wipe out any level of power they want
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Gonna say now that this will get picked apart as us picking and choosing for our own benefit to get higher tiered feats especially since this is Thor 1 Thor, it'd likely be more detrimental to have that listed than not
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The Rainbow Bridge carries the energy of the Bifrost and Thor survived an explosion that energy, I said Loki surviving it was an outlier unless they want High 6-A Loki, plus Pre-Awakening characters would be High 6-A via scaling to Vision and the Mind Stone
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Nah they won't become we don't scale vision to the peak of the mindstones power only ultron has this advantage in what if HOWEVER we can still list the mindstone as 6-A
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True, I'm going to remove it then
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Yeah this is the note on the profile also:
Do not scale Vision to Ultron with the Mind Stone. This creates several scaling problems and contradictions, as well as it being stated that Vision was unable to unlock the Mind Stone's full power, whereas Ultron likely did not have such a problem.
