Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Planetary level only from a deleted scene will never be accepted, are there other feats in that level for Pre-Awakening characters?

Plantery is from deleted and now WoG

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

When was Thor stated to be able to shatter the reality stone?

Wasn’t stated he did it in dark world

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[The_one_you_least_expect]

So is the plan to upgrade Pre-Awakening Thor and characters who scale to him to around Planetary or higher and then whatever results we get for Mjolnir and the Tesseracts destruction if it's higher than Planetary we'll use for Post-Awakening Thor and others

Pretty much though ai was aiming higher for post awakened characters

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Anyways I’ll post the rest agian when I’m done eating

 

[RoTt35]

Plantery is from deleted and now WoG

Wasn't that just with Transmutation? Also that's not planetary, the Nine Realms are galaxies so it would be 3-B if it counts as AP

 

[Lacku]

An obvious feat I’m surprised we never thought about is Wanda in IW destroying the Mind Stone, she should upscale Moon Level because of this since the Hadron Enforcer wasn’t even able to destroy the Power Stone

 

[RoTt35]

An obvious feat I’m surprised we never thought about is Wanda in IW destroying the Mind Stone, she should upscale Moon Level because of this since the Hadron Enforcer wasn’t even able to destroy the Power Stone

All the stones have the same durability? And that wasn't because Wanda had a link with the Mind Stone?

 

[Lacku]

All the stones have the same durability? And that wasn't because Wanda had a link with the Mind Stone?

I think the stones all having comparable durability is debatable but I think Wanda destroyed the stone with her own strength I don't think it was just because of her link to it.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Wasn't that just with Transmutation? Also that's not planetary, the Nine Realms are galaxies so it would be 3-B if it counts as AP

Probably, it is since he has to consume the worlds first get amped consume then the rest of the universe

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

All the stones have the same durability? And that wasn't because Wanda had a link with the Mind Stone?

Relative at bare minimum I’d think considering Bor thought it was to tough to destroy

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[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also here’s the evidence for the other stuff
Rocket statment

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Tesseract power


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Ronan statment on marvel

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Mjolnir being made out of neutron star material

 

[RoTt35]

Couldn't the Tesseract statement just be surface wiping?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Couldn't the Tesseract statement just be surface wiping?

Considering she said “wipe out” I doubt it seeing as that means to eliminate something completely

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Ooh, this thread is getting saucy.

Another thing that should be brought up is the fact that Thanos was completely unfazed by Ronin (Someone with Moon level Dura) saying that he was coming to kill him. Also note that Thanos was able to hold the power stone which can cause Planetary levels of destruction.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Ooh, this thread is getting saucy.

Another thing that should be brought up is the fact that Thanos was completely unfazed by Ronin (Someone with Moon level Dura) saying that he was coming to kill him. Also note that Thanos was able to hold the power stone which can cause Planetary levels of destruction.

I agree with thanos being unfazed by Roman but holding the stone doesn’t grant planetary dura considering the guardians survived holding it

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

I agree with thanos being unfazed by Roman but holding the stone doesn’t grant planetary dura considering the guardians survived holding it

They survived holding it because star lord was a Space god at the time and immortal

 

[Dalesean027]

I agree with thanos being unfazed by Roman but holding the stone doesn’t grant planetary dura considering the guardians survived holding it

Well ronan was amped by the stone and

They survived holding it because star lord was a Space god at the time and immortal

Even with this in mind the stone doesn't damage things of that size the same way it'd damage something much larger so that's not an anti-feat since Gamora I think it was tells us how it works

Ronan can indeed have moon level sura

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

They survived holding it because star lord was a Space god at the time and immortal

Ya and he hadn’t activated his true power until he encountered ego plus the stone general has a power surge in conjunction to the size of the object or person it’s touching

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Well ronan was amped by the stone and
Even with this in mind the stone doesn't damage things of that size the same way it'd damage something much larger so that's not an anti-feat since Gamora I think it was tells us how it works

Ronan can indeed have moon level sura

He was but that was after he harnessed it’s power. Holding the stone and resisting its power wouldn’t consider how it works without a controller

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

He was but that was after he harnessed it’s power. Holding the stone and resisting its power wouldn’t consider how it works without a controller

I mean I see it as this.
Ronin a much smaller dude than Thanos failed to hold and contain the power stones power without his hammer.
The hammer then channeled the Moon level energies for him.
Thanos a much bigger dude could hold the power stone with barely a problem.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I mean I see it as this.
Ronin a much smaller dude than Thanos failed to hold and contain the power stones power without his hammer.
The hammer then channeled the Moon level energies for him.
Thanos a much bigger dude could hold the power stone with barely a problem.

Thanos wasn’t casually tanking it’s energy

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besdies thanos crushing the tesseract is arguably a far better feat

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Thanos wasn’t casually tanking it’s energy

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besdies thanos crushing the tesseract is arguably a far better feat

Ok, maybe not casually but he was still tanking it's energy and after he puts it back in we see he suffered no lasting damage

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Ok, maybe not casually but he was still tanking it's energy and after he puts it back in we see he suffered no lasting damage

I mean it barely got the chance to do any lasting damage in comparison to the likes of Ronan or the guardians

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

I mean it barely got the chance to do any lasting damage in comparison to the likes of Ronan or the guardians

He held it for a far longer time than Ronin did, compare the scenes

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

He held it for a far longer time than Ronin did, compare the scenes

I did and Ronan’s is longer

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[Marvel_Champion_07]

I did and Ronan’s is longer

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Huh? Ronan held it for 16 seconds before putting it in his hammer. Thanos held it for 24 seconds before putting it in in the Gauntlet

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Huh? Ronan held it for 16 seconds before putting it in his hammer. Thanos held it for 24 seconds before putting it in in the Gauntlet

That's what I'm sayin?

Plus only Thanos's hand was glowing, Ronin's entire body was and it was clear he was about to pop

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

We’re the heck are you getting this numbers? Thanos at best had the stone in his hand for a couple of seconds, unless your trying to suggest he just held the stone in his hand off screen for no reason after punching marvel

Yes, that's kind of what were meant to assume

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Yes, that's kind of what were meant to assume

Ya I just relased that after looking at the full scene. Regardless this still wouldn’t translate to plantery dura seeing as how the stone works

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Ya I just relased that after looking at the full scene. Regardless this still wouldn’t translate to plantery dura seeing as how the stone works

And how it that?
A far smaller person got Juiced up to Moon level just by jamming it in his hammer.
The power surge endured by a much larger Thanos should be far more and like I said before maybe he wasn't tanking it like it was nothing but he was holding it to were his entire body wasn't gonna pop like bitch ass Ronin.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

And how it that?
A far smaller person got Juiced up to Moon level just by jamming it in his hammer.
The power surge endured by a much larger Thanos should be far more and like I said before maybe he wasn't tanking it like it was nothing but he was holding it to were his entire body wasn't gonna pop like bitch ass Ronin.

Because the stone response to to the targets size . Um ya cuz he could actually control it via his hammer. Doing better then Ronan isn’t something to brag about for a character of thanos’s caliber

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Besides thanos already scales to the stone via not being scared of Ronan and tearing starks suit apart with his bear hands

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Plus there’s the snap which is far more powerful

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

There’s also some statements about the mind stones power

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Thor was able to block sone blasts from it in avengers so take this as what you well

 

[Lacku]

Ronan can indeed have moon level dura

Insane that Moon Level Ronan might finally be accepted

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Insane that Moon Level Ronan might finally be accepted

Idk why it wasn’t accepted before hand

 

[Dalesean027]

Insane that Moon Level Ronan might finally be accepted

Idk why it wasn’t accepted before hand

Yeah fr it was one of those things that's like weirdly contended against

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Yeah fr it was one of those things that's like weirdly contended against

Ya I’m guessing people thought it was to high or something cuz if the ratings of other characters

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

or because of visuals

 

[RoTt35]

Moon level (5-C)

• Rocket states that Nidavellir makes the most powerful and horrific weapons to ever torment the universe.
• His Hadron Enforcer can blow up moons, which is confirmed by guidebooks.
• Ronan, who was empowered by the Power Stone, was unfazed by the Hadron Enforcer.

Planet level (5-B)

• The Tesseract has the potential energy to wipe out Earth without a minimum safe distance.
• Ronan implies that Captain Marvel is more powerful than the Tesseract.
• Hela implies that the Eternal Flame is more powerful than the Tesseract.