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Someone has to prove why the residual heat is as hot as the attack itself
and as someone above put it brilliantly, how the heat gets pass his adaptability, etc.
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Match #2 The World's Strongest Beast v Dante (Black Clover)
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and as someone above put it brilliantly, how the heat gets pass his adaptability, etc.
DaMonkeMan
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He vaporizes the horn of the giant skull on Onigashima in the new chapter, and that's just via touching it with his body.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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He could dodge but would be hard since of haki shit and kaido has more likely to hit it via haki shit something like that
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Btw;
Shouldn’t Dante be able to use mana skin?
Shouldn’t Dante be able to use mana skin?
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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He could but the heat bypasses the resistance of the heat that Dante has since Kaido's heat is way hotter than the heat that Dante resist
DaMonkeMan
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Btw Kaido doesn't even need to really be near Dante, FYI, Advanced Armament and Conqueror's lets you hit people without contact. It has a certain range but it'd be good enough to stop Dante from getting near along with his passive vaporizing heat.
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You mean obs haki?
Dante fought Yami who combined Manazone and Ki sensing;
but his residual heat is less hot than the attack itself
someone mentioned Kaido can vape with his hands is that true?
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Almost as good as Julius’ future sight
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Yami's Ki sensing is via reading muscles and Kaido's obs haki is literally future sight that has many things included danger sense yada yada but you get what i mean right?
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The reading muscles thing is probably on the same level as Enel's "mantra" which allowed him to try and emulate Future Sight by reading someone's emotions and body, but the downside to that is that if someone throws an attack that has a random pattern or has no thought behind it at all then he can't do much against it . What I'm saying is that guy probably is a level below Kaido's precog abilities thus mentioning him probably isn't useful in this argument if you're trying to defend Dante.
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No
both of you are oversimplifying
Yami’s Ki sensing also predicts random attacks. Upscales to pretime skip Asta who accomplished this random pattern feat against a danmaku version with HIS EYES CLOSED (Asta vs elf gauche). Sensing Ki also allows Yami to react instinctively and counter attack, allowing him to have whole conversations.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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This really contradicted since what kiato did to his asta's precog
DaMonkeMan
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Oh. Well, does that mean it's as good as Future Sight which lets you see seconds into the future?
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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15 seconds iirc
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which is just seeing a few seconds into the future and also he quite literally says he's not on Julius's level. so idk Yami's precognition isn't too good
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the danmaku random attack feat with elf Gauche’s light rays happened way after this lol
Unless you’re assuming Asta’s senses didn’t adapt to Kiato throwing them off.
So Obv Haki is on the same level as Julius’ ability to see the future?
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You mean future sight lets you see 15 seconds or?
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Future sight lets you see 15 secs in haki
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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No it's lower since julius can only see glimpse( i forgot what he actually said so please correct me if im wrong) into the future while obs haki let's you see 15 secs into the future with intents sensing emotion reading danger sense just check the haki page since i forgot what was in there
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Kaidou is a large human who can transform into a dragon and a dragon human hybrid.
He uses a bunch of wind blades and flame blasts, can use those in either dragon or hybrid form.
He has Haki. He uses Kenbunshoku when he’s not fighting absolute fodder several tiers lower than him and when he dodges attacks that would hurt him, uses Advanced Kenbunshoku when he’s getting overwhelmed.
Can use Thunder Bagua, a physical smack coated in electricity that is drastically faster than his entire arsenal.
Has a bunch of other stuff
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Who told you 15 seconds? There’s no given time, but people have feats of ridiculously long timeframes
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Minimum 5 seconds and Max 10 seconds for what I know, Luffy was able to told the old Yakuza leader how to dodge the attacks of a Smile user with plenty time to spare
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Really? I though it was 15 seconds i saw it on an old thread, also didn't it said 15 secs on the page? Damn i really need some sleep
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Katakuri could see entire conversations and Luffy’s is as good as his, and Kaido’s scales to that as well. 5-10 is a drastic lowball
People made that up.
If it says 15 seconds on the page then it’s my fault, but unless it’s sourced then 15 seconds is bs
Pretty much
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Speedster said Kaidou doesn't use ob haki is it true? I haven't read op but Ive seen it implied he can
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From what was said earlier he uses it when hes serious, or drunk
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but he doesn’t seem to be proficient with it since he gets hit with pretty much every attack big mom told him to dodge an attack that would have killed him
speedster352
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kairo observation is not as good as kata without proof I am glad to take it back with scans and feats
speedster352
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how Julius has way better feats
speedster352
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like i said he doesn’t seem to be proficient with it at all he will probably think of it as devil fruit ability and try to block it with his haki
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That's sorta a big assumption to make though? Like a really big one. Why would Kaidou assume it would be a DF ability unless I'm missing something?
speedster352
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Dante teleports and ben bend the attack here
speedster352
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that’s what one piece characters face all the time devil fruits it’s not like he can read minds or something. it could be his first guess probably try to block or reflect it first but that will cost him because of EE and the aoe is huge and can expand and attract objects.
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He was able to dodge Luffy in dragon form with Future Sight.
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speedster352
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that’s great but he won’t dodge every attack he is the kind to let his opponent hit him or fight him before he destroys them and the black hole has a lot of aoe
the black hole aoe is at least hundreds of meters
speedster352
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you still haven’t countered dante teleportation, high mid regen and EE and bending of attacks he can just keep teleporting and will eventually land his EE check his stamina feats on his profile
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