Match #2 The World's Strongest Beast v Dante (Black Clover)

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

So what is the vote count now? Speedster said that it changed but I saw some Kaido FRA

Kaido will win in one hour I think, there are not enough Dante´s votes, it would be like 3-8 or 3-9

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Given that Dante's stamina is based on his amount of magic, this is technically true. He'd have more stamina at 100% than at 50% due to having more magic to use. I know these emojis mean you're calling a smooth brain, so you really don't need to resort to insults

Nah, I'm not talking about that. I know that stamina depends on the amount of magic, but that is not and never has been my point

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Nah, I'm not talking about that. I know that stamina depends on the amount of magic, but that is not and never has been my point

Your point: Dante would tire himself fighting someone equal using the Magna fight as proof when he had no connection with Lucifero and is at 50% of his strenght

Without Lucifero and at 50%, his stamina is garbage, he literally wasted more mana fighting Yami and using vastly more powerfull spells and still was fine, but hey, call me smooth brain, when you are not even reading my argument, completely disregarding how I see it

 

[Arkenis]

How much stamina does 100% Dante have?

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

If ever this gets possibly heated remember to chill my instinctive reaction said this to me and my precog but it's still could not get heated but just in case

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Your point: Dante would tire himself fighting someone equal using the Magna fight as proof when he had no connection with Lucifero and is at 50% of his strenght

If he was using 100% and fighting someone with exactly the same amount of magic power and fought purely at close range, do you think he wouldn't have wasted mana in proportion to his level?

 

[Arkenis]

I mean after grace this is getting closed so unlikely to get heated. its been a circle of arguments with nothing new to show

 

[speedster352]

I mean after grace this is getting closed so unlikely to get heated. its been a circle of arguments with nothing new to show

I mean Dante win con is dodging and bending attack and then landing the black hole kaido win con is hitting Dante that’s all

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

I mean Dante win con is dodging and bending attack and then landing the black hole kaido win con is hitting Dante that’s all

The black hole is more unlikely to happen thanks to haki's precognition

 

[speedster352]

No it wont, Kaido instinctively dodged a dangerous slash why the **** would he not instinctively dodge a black hole?

Because the black hole has a lot of aoe and kaido will probably try to block it with haki. He was literally told to dodge by big mom lol

 

[speedster352]

The black hole is more unlikely to happen thanks to haki's precognition

When has kaido used precog? Not Ic he gets hit all the time. He was told to dodge by big mom lol. He will try to block it like he always does with armament haki then get deleted. Dante can slow kaido down with his gravity and teleport and spam black hole with large aoe so good luck dodging.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Because the black hole has a lot of aoe and kaido will probably try to block it with haki. He was literally told to dodge by big mom lol

Instinctive Reactions handles this since you should prolly read haki page iirc their precog is layered with other *****

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

When has kaido used precog? Not Ic he gets hit all the time. He was told to dodge by big mom lol. He will try to block it like he always does with armament haki then get deleted. Dante can slow kaido down with his gravity and teleport and spam black hole with large aoe so good luck dodging.

You should look at the LS bud but i dunno i gotta ignore you since the gravity shit won't work on kaido since same LS or something like that just read the comments above the attacks will work not the thing that will slow him down do

 

[Arkenis]

yea haki precog kinda makes most of Dante's attacks irrelevant

 

[Arkenis]

Lifting Strength: At least Class T (Comparable to Big Mom), higher with Full Beast, even higher with Hybrid Form, Class P with Flame Clouds (Lifted Onigashima nearly a dozen kilometers off the ocean)

Lifting Strength: Class G (Casually lifted several giant rocks)

 

[speedster352]

You should look at the LS bud but i dunno i gotta ignore you since the gravity shit won't work on kaido since same LS or something like that just read the comments above the attacks will work not the thing that will slow him down do

I mean the move that makes the opponent heavier

yea haki precog kinda makes most of Dante's attacks irrelevant

kaido doesn’t use precog ic and he is not good with it at all considering what happens in the series. Kaido will see the attack and try to block it with armament haki and get erased.

 

[Arkenis]

Dantes gravity won't work, his ee ball will be dodged by precog, And also him teleporting won't be an issue since that'll get precogged

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Y’all said the guy with future sight is going to look at an EE move and try to tank it. Wtf

Kaidou’s boro breath burned G5 Luffy, when a lower form of Luffy took the passive heat aura of steel vaping Akainu

Kaidou burns him. Stop bullshitting. And this Dante echo chamber based on lies is headassery

KT can you give us prolly what kaido does in character and his abilities? Since i'm not that knowledgeable in him and it could prolly help the others too if you don't mind?

 

[KingTempest]

“Big Mom told him to dodge” because he was fighting goofs who couldn’t hurt him before. Stop comparing them

 

[Arnoldstone18]

And because you have not read the whole argument of Dante having a horrible stamina

Dante does not have horrible stamina.

I saw it was mentioned and I was disappointed at the fact that Magna, who halved stamina and made it his own, was used as a supporting point. Ignoring the fact that It has been stated multiple times how vast his mana pool is. Ignoring the fact that he has been fighting extensively before his stamina was halved by Magna.

 

[speedster352]

“Big Mom told him to dodge” because he was fighting goofs who couldn’t hurt him before. Stop comparing them

It proves that kaido either sucks at observation haki or is too arrogant.

Dantes gravity won't work, his ee ball will be dodged by precog, And also him teleporting won't be an issue since that'll get precogged

not ic when has kaido dodge once without being told? Dante can teleport extremely fast and spam this so good luck dodging.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

It proves that kaido either sucks at observation haki or is too arrogant.

not ic when has kaido dodge once without being told? Dante can teleport extremely fast and spam this so good luck dodging.

Never really spammed it

 

[speedster352]

Never really spammed it

Watch the Dante vs Yami fight again

 

[DaMonkeMan]

When has kaido vaperized someone off the bat he is the person to let his opponent hit him or at least fight before he kills him.

He only holds back on people that he thinks aren't worthy of trying with. Once he knows they're a worthy opponent he heats up and tries to vaporize them. And Dante is a worthy opponent, thus he'll most likely try that.

 

[speedster352]

Never really spammed it

Here

 

[speedster352]

He only holds back on people that he thinks aren't worthy of trying with. Once he knows they're a worthy opponent he heats up and tries to vaporize them. And Dante is a worthy opponent, thus he'll most likely try that.

Yeah right Dante will teleport away, bend the attack and regen so this match may be inconclusive. Here

 

[Arkenis]

This?

 

[speedster352]

Anyway why are we still arguing this match is done and Dante is still in

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

The scan you sent he didn't literally spammed that he just controlled the ball itself to Yami well it's not spam but i get what you meant by that

 

[speedster352]

The scan you sent he didn't literally spammed that he just controlled the ball itself to Yami well it's not spam but i get what you meant by that

Exactly dante can control the size and attraction of the black hole so kaido is not dodging it he will probably block it with armament haki since he will think it’s a devil fruit with his low intelligence

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

I didn't said the size but whatevs

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Exactly dante can control the size and attraction of the black hole so kaido is not dodging it he will probably block it with armament haki since he will think it’s a devil fruit with his low intelligence

lmaoo low intelligence? look at Kaido's page then come back to us.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Yeah right Dante will teleport away, bend the attack and regen so this match may be inconclusive. Here

I think the whole point was that he's too cocky to teleport away or maybe I misread some of the other comments. Either way I still think Kaido wins. This should be closed.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

I think the whole point was that he's too cocky to teleport away or maybe I misread some of the other comments. Either way I still think Kaido wins. This should be closed.

You misread

 

[speedster352]

I think the whole point was that he's too cocky to teleport away or maybe I misread some of the other comments. Either way I still think Kaido wins. This should be closed.

Dante always teleports look at his fight with Yami. kaido is never hitting him this is definitly incon

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I mean if the residue heat can vape Dante, if he starts with it here, and can use some sort of future sight to avoid any black hole stuff or whatever it is, that just sounds like it's in Kaidou's favor, no? But I dont know, this thread is as convoluted as Dark Sould time, so it's hard to even understand some points.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Dante always teleports look at his fight with Yami. kaido is never hitting him this is definitly incon

Could Dante even react fast enough to teleport from Kaido constantly like that? Kaido was able to dodge Luffy and speed blitz him on multiple accounts.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I mean if the residue heat can vape Dante, if he starts with it here, and can use some sort of future sight to avoid any black hole stuff or whatever it is, that just sounds like it's in Kaidou's favor, no?

this too.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Its the passive heat that comes off the attack thats largely being argued.

Yeah that’s what I meant by residual heat. The heat the attack gives off, it’s not as hot as the attack itself.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

I mean if the residue heat can vape Dante, if he starts with it here, and can use some sort of future sight to avoid any black hole stuff or whatever it is, that just sounds like it's in Kaidou's favor, no? But I dont know, this thread is as convoluted as Dark Sould time, so it's hard to even understand some points.

I could somewhat understand i'm just waiting on the mash v max fight to get more arguments