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Match #2 The World's Strongest Beast v Dante (Black Clover)
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DaMonkeMan
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so.. we can close this?
speedster352
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This is not fair at all. Seriously why didn't you put the strongest characters against each other?
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They did though
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Speed, this is a tournament. Who fights who is random.
That's simply how it happens
That's simply how it happens
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I'm sorry, but it's very obvious from how you handle these VS battles that you go into them wanting a certain character to win. And in this case, it's clear you wanted Dante to win. Just because he lost, doesn't mean it's unfair
speedster352
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So why is kaido facing dante? Why didn't he get switched to a character with like 68 teratons against a character with 17 teratons.They did though
That's not an excuse tournaments are supposed to be fair
It was unfair kaido was 3 times stronger than him I don't care if dante won or lost so stop bringing that up. This match just wasn't fair
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Dante has dura negs and regeneration
He lost because of his lack of skill, not because he had no chance
He lost because of his lack of skill, not because he had no chance
speedster352
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Yeah, right kaido is 3x his ap. Why does he need skill when he has spells that can EE? Whatever I don't really care anyway. I am definitely unfollowing this tournament
Noneless21
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Pretty sure that almost 90% of vs battle matches are unfair whether you like it or not
speedster352
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That isn't right though aren't their rules against this?
Lou_change
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It can vary quite a bit on this site we use randomized brackets and sometimes characters hard counter each other like the tarrasque and the whole tournament there are also lesser examples like this it isn’t uncommon for matches to end 7-0 but still be fair.
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Because the EE method depends on skill, in addition to Kaido being able to see into the future and therefore able to avoid the gravitational singularity
Anyway, goodbye
Noneless21
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ofc there is, 7,5x ap difference and a stomp match happened, while 3 or 7x times speed difference and a character with 3 or 7x higher speed will just speed blitz his opponent, that's why speed is equalized to make things more fair
conclusion? this is unfair but not to the degree of a stomp, almost a stomp though
conclusion? this is unfair but not to the degree of a stomp, almost a stomp though
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Kaido is about 4.75x stronger than Dante, but most of Kaido's attacks can't kill Dante due to his regen, with only his fire being able to do so. Plus, Dante has Existence Erasure via Gravity Singularity.
Admittedly, I think Dante's arrogance was exaggerated here. Yes, he's narcissistic, but he's also a smarter fighter than that may lead people to believe, such as when he actively went for knocking Asta's swords out of his hands because he knew Asta's Anti-Magic was a threat to him (which would've worked and he would've won if Yami didn't pass Asta his katana). His arrogance really went into overdrive when he was faced with someone as seemingly low as Magna, which wouldn't be a level of arrogance he'd show against Kaido given his strength.
Admittedly, I think Dante's arrogance was exaggerated here. Yes, he's narcissistic, but he's also a smarter fighter than that may lead people to believe, such as when he actively went for knocking Asta's swords out of his hands because he knew Asta's Anti-Magic was a threat to him (which would've worked and he would've won if Yami didn't pass Asta his katana). His arrogance really went into overdrive when he was faced with someone as seemingly low as Magna, which wouldn't be a level of arrogance he'd show against Kaido given his strength.
speedster352
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Whatever I am unfollowing this tournament anyway
He sends an orb that EE a moutain
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Gravity Singularity, aka a ball of pure ****-you-existence-erasure
DaMonkeMan
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Listen man, don't act a fool about that, alright? This was an admittedly well thought out match with good points for each side, and it just seems like Kaido takes this cake. And I have characters that I like and am biased towards too, but even still, when you're on here you have to simply put aside biases and think logically about which character is more skilled, stronger, smarter, versatile with their abilities, etc. I know it's frustrating to see a character you like lose to someone but at the end of the day it's just a vsbattles discussion, not an actual battle between the two characters that the creators of each series agreed upon and wrote/drew.
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Idk what you guys talking but dante stomp with ease (he always put GS
next to him thus anything within it's range will be absorbed) Also stop mentioning his battle with magna, he can't use most of his arsenal at that time thus he was force to fight magna in h2h combat, which he is not good at.
next to him thus anything within it's range will be absorbed) Also stop mentioning his battle with magna, he can't use most of his arsenal at that time thus he was force to fight magna in h2h combat, which he is not good at.
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so something dodgeable is iirc
speedster352
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I mean they are 7 meters away so EE can hit
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This description is glorious
speedster352
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It erased a mountain it has alot of range
speedster352
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Good luck I guess although Yuno is going to get beat real quick
DaMonkeMan
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Future Sight, plus Kaido dodged a lightning bolt that Luffy threw at him.
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Enough!
I had to re-roll the battles at least three times (twice because of you) before landing on Kaido and even then I changed it from fighting another character to fighting Kaido.
Even if you had Madara high Regen/Immortality would have been restricted to a lower level
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This started out with Lucifero, it's just that Lucifero is way too broken, not just for Kaido but honestly for most of the bracket
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It kinda seems like GS gets bigger as it travels at some points. Like it passed right by Yami’s head at one point but it can also destroy mountains.
Arkenis
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He would have had to face a kaido or someone like him regardless, what does it matter?
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No, definitely not. Dante's problem is that he doesn't know his own limits and doesn't know how to fight comparable or stronger opponents, Magma himself states this. In the battle against Asta he knew that Anti-Magic attacks could negate his regeneration, so he was careful (And he only stood a chance because Asta and Yami were weaker than him). But in the match against Kaido's physical attacks, this is not going to happen in any case. Dante will probably simply not defend himself and will allow Kaido to attack his body at will because he doesn't recognize his own power. Besides the fact that Kaido can see into the future via Haki and know anything Dante is going to do, which makes things even worse
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Idk what this was but ok.
Aside from the fact that being superior to someone doesn't mean their haki won't null their DF, this argument is null for one reason.
Fujitora has a devil fruit.
Law's devil fruit along with his haki can cut some people. It can also not cut other people who have superior Haki.
Devil fruits that are shut off on people work on others all the time.
Saying "Issho was holding back" as a justification for that is just wrong.
Because Luffy's attacks aren't the purpose of his devil fruit.
Luffy's devil fruit amps his regular attacks. He doesn't attack with his devil fruit, he attacks with himself, he just amps with his devil fruit as that's how fruits of his class work.
Bad argument. Law's devil fruit affects the environment, and people resist it.
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Kaidou can negate his regen, and Dante's regen is very limited, plus it's ass. Mid low is nothing. People can fight Marco... like whatEh given Dante's regen is this really unfair? Kaidos is mid-low. Think the regen makes the ap less of a win con
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Kaidou would vaporize that
Arkenis
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how's it ass? he can regen his from his entire body being destroyed in the mid section.
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