Well with Epidem, when he uses Thirds, he'd be 7.86 Petatons. Famin should be superior to that with Thirds, so Famin should also be 7.86 Petatons with Thirds. And since Orter took out Famin with just summoning, Orter should be 7.86 Petatons with summoning. So if Orter used Thirds....
Eh, it didn't seem like Orter was all that affected by the slashes from Famin. He just sort of bled, yet it didn't effect him afterwards.
Regarding that, his dura is scale fully to Famin's third, but his AP would scale far higher.
Ah, yeah, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
Yeah, which further cements summoning being an equal multiplier to Secondths. And then Thirds, because it's superior Summoning.
Wait Mashle went up to High 6A?
Not yet, but it's in discussion, due to the multipliers and all.
Confused on some of this logic here.
Eh? Not sure on the 100x part. It's just a 10x multipler, and then another 10x multiplier on top of that. Eh, my brain isnt thinking well at this time, its 12:12.
Secondth spell = Summoning without spell < 10x Thirdth spell
Wouldn't it be "at least 7.86 Petatons with summoning" though? Since Epidem with only summoning could match Lance's Thirds, so when Epidem used Thirds, he'd be 7.86 Petatons. So Famin is superior to that with Thirds, and Orter one shot Famin with only summoning.
Why? Domina's Thirdth is 780 Terratons right? All the brothers would scale atleast 780 Terratons and likely higher with their Thirdth but 50% Doom with base Magic will be atleast 780 terratons .
Lance would be 7.86 Teratons in base due to not getting one shot by Epidem, who was in a hurry. Lance then used both summoning and Thirds, placing him at 786 Teratons. Epidem then used summoning, and was able to match this, so when they used Thirds, they were bumped up to 7.86 Petatons.
Base Lance not scale to base Epidem, he definitely got over powered by Epidem.
He was overpowered, but that doesn't mean they are tiers apart. In fact, I didn't say anything about Lance scaling directly, just that he'd be 7.86 Teratons due to not being one shot by Epidem, who stated that they're in a hurry. Epidem simply scales above the 7.86 Teraton value. It even makes sense for Lance to reach this level due to being trained by Orter, who is the 2nd most powerful DV and one shot the second most powerful brother.
His base would scale below base Epidem. Anyway this 7.8 terratons wouldnt be used soon. We Will get higher and more higher value trust me.
His training is irrelevant, that's not even a backup evidence.
Then you're saying Epidem's base is 7.86 Teratons? That seams like a lowball considering he's supposed to be the 3rd strongest brother, and should therefore scale way beyond the 7.76 Teraton value. If Lance was able to take attacks from Epidem, who isn't holding back or playing around like Delisaster, than lance would have gotten one shot many times over.
It is relevant, as it was to show the growth in power he and Dot went through. It is backup evidence as it shows how Lance scaling to country level isn't absurd. If lance was still High 6-C against Epidem, who isn't messing around, he'd have been killed quickly.
No, I have my own scalling 7.8 TT wouldnt be used for Domina and his brother.
Ah, well you'd have to decide that with Life_of_King, seeing as how his scaling is the one taken here.
Levi's never had a Thirds though. He only summoned Adamas, and as said before, summoning simply makes every spell comparable to Secondths, meaning Summoning is still a 10x multiplier onto base. And even then, why wouldn't Mash's AP scale? He shattered Levis' Adamas armor with his punches.
So it would still be 7.8 Petatons anyways....
I'm pretty sure that's not allowed even if the 78 teratons was true, as this is exactly what happened with Mash before a CRT was made to have it at just 7.86 Teratons instead of 8.
Lance took multiple of Epidem's attacks in the first place, although with high difficulty. Chalking it up to just "stamina and siscon" would be ignoring the shown feats.
My bad, I remember it wrong, Levi's Summon stated to be several times stronger it could be 3-4 times stronger than his Secondth and Mash did scale.
Upscaling the brothers from Domina , not for Mash.
Yes, but he is injured, his Gravity cant break Epidem's Magic, his AP and Dura still scale below Epidem
Not getting One shoted it's just stamina feats tbh.
Yet there isn't any concrete numbers for this, besides the fact that Summoning makes all spells comparable to a Secondth instead of one spell, so it wouldn't make sense to say that one specific summon is more powerful than every other.
Mash was originally upscaled because he was a truck ton more powerful than Levis' secondth, yet he was still put back down to 7.86 Teratons. So even if the brothers were more and more powerful than eachother, they'd all still be "at least"
Scale below, yes, but that doesn't mean he's tiers below Epidem.
It's still Dura and AP feats since it happened multiple times, it just also upgrades Lance's stamina.
Yeah, and Dot will unironically scale higher. Best boy getting the higher tier he deserves.
Summon with entry level is equal to Secondth spell but Levi's stated it's several times stronger it's consistent because he can deal damage with that.
I mean he will scale when he join the battle, we know that he grew 100x stronger than his current scaling.
He will scale to baseline H-6A in base, with my scaling of course.
In my take it's only stamina feats.
I still don't think there'd be concrete number for it. At best it would be "at least insert number".
We still don't know if Mash is 100x stronger than his previous power, but maybe we will see it in a few chapters if you know some leaks.
Eh, these are you opinions, so I don't really see a point in continuing this debate. Though Life of King may be interested in it.
Like one piece accepted "several" value it would be 4
Yes, but armored knight scaling still doesnt have any counter.
The downscaling only 20% from the beginning
I don't know what One Piece did
At the same time, it has no support, sooooo
Luffy's gear 4 stated to be several times stronger most of the staff said 4x because it Will stated triple if it only 3 and 5 is to much.
We only have one scan and that enough.
Well 4x is a lot less than over 10x, so I doubt that would pass easier
Feels like we should wait for more evidence, since only one page feels iffy
Since there is no anti feat the statment is still usable, if he fight Doom with his Thirdth Mash is still atleast 100x stronger anyway.
Not sure about Cane but I can buy Lemon being subsonic like the rest of the gangChapter 126 is out
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And what would the tier of the Criminal Cane be, the same as Kaldo? That also reminds me, what will Kaldo's tier be?
Mash ain't so special with speed is he.... at least in base
Kaldo can't even get a good fight, he's going to be stuck at H6-C
It's Okay , he is not a major Character anyway.Kaldo can't even get a good fight, he's going to be stuck at H6-C
