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At least not with their morals on
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Marvel video game’s general discussion
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They do get a speed anti-feat though. Since bothbMiles and Peter are tagged by Sandman's lightning. Electro might not be a solid MHS+ reason considering natural lightning is hard to dodge for them.
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Yeah we may have to with the speed of electricity in air
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Tbh their dodging has gone all over the place this game. Kraven consistently bypassed spider sense, lightning didn't trigger spider sense (twice), lots of jobbing going on.
Also to expand on this, Peter in the first game claims he stopped a train. In the "The Flame" side story, he completely fails to stop a speeding two-car Oscorp train, and resorts to explosives to derail it.
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The game also once again shows up Spider-Man's crippling weakness:
Dude can't handle stab wounds. Once against piercing attacks are just 2 OP.
Though it's not all jobbing:
Agent Venom kicked that massive blast door off its hinges super casually
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Peter from the first game seems to be able to handle stab wounds a bit better. He basically walked off getting impaled by Otto but here a stab to the side would’ve had him pushing up daisies
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It is a bit inconsistent, especially given Otto's claw was much bigger than that knife.
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Yeah the stab was pretty dumb
But I gotta say sandman as the first boss Is crazy
Also this is already one of my favorite versions of Venom. He's so strong and intimidating
But I gotta say sandman as the first boss Is crazy
Also this is already one of my favorite versions of Venom. He's so strong and intimidating
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Okay, can we talk about how OP it is that Peter and Miles can just scan random shit with their masks for blueprints and 3D print brand new gear in a matter of seconds? And that they can share these new designs with each other just like that since Peter never actually told Miles about the Web Line yet he also just has it then and there?
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I finally got the black suit and omg that was insane
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Spidey rips a birdy in half
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It's a bit weird how many of Spider-Man's villains that Kraven killed offscreen/on screen. Electro, Vulture, Shocker and Scorpion were all murked.
Also Electro was pretty mid accordong to Kraven.
Also Electro was pretty mid accordong to Kraven.
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Dude just casually tanked scorpions tail and merked him 0 diff
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Apparently Shocker kinda cooked Kraven
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He does heavily use prep time though, but based on the sound recordings he gave all his victims a chance to use their abilities which potentially makes Kraven a lightning/electricity timer (explains how he beats up Miles off-screen after the Li fight.)
Harry's door feat was good, though it could've been better. What was more impressive was his holding up the ferris wheel at Coney Island, which is a 200 ton feat.
I'm hoping we get DLCs like the first game; I feel like many opportunities weren't taken. I would have liked to see Taskmaster again. 80% of Spiderman's rogue gallery is already dead or in jail, and the only ones we haven't seen are Hydro-man, Morbius, Morlun/Solus (though he's already dead in the crossover event), GG is already hinted at, Chameleon is already hinted at, Carnage is already hinted at, and Hobgoblin. Given everything we've seen, I do not see how Insomniac makes a game of substance with mostly bottom-tier villains.
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I agree with all of this. I want to further clarify on the Anti-Venom scaling though as Peter directly states it made him just as powerful as he was with the Black Suit but with none of the drawbacks which is shown pretty clearly with how Base Spidey got stomped by the Symbiote Behemoth yet Anti-Venom Spidey was able to defeat it and a large of number of Symbiotes on his own. On top of this his Anti-Venom and Sonic Blasts are straight up Kryptonite against Symbiotes yet despite that Venom still beat the dog shit out of him in their 1v1 while still explicitly not trying to kill him because the Symbiote wanted to corrupt him into joining them.
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I mentioned it before but i also think that the MHS+ scaling through Electro should probably go. Considering how both Spider-Men struggle to avoid natural lightning (which is treated as hitscan if it goes off), I wouldn't say Electro is MHS+. Especially since Kraven's hunters could reverse engineer his tech and its all electric based.
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I think Miles wouldn't be lumped in this category since he was intentionally absorbing the lightning strikes, plus electricity is his moveset. We could always get some cinematic time calcs for Electro's lightning.
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Looks like someone found removed content. Kraven's office originally featured mounted heads of his kills, which included Rhino:https://www.reddit.com/media?url=ht...bp&s=3ad19c17cd3d265e513157888b260d4f1ee48003
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truly one of the worst aspects story wise of this game
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I wonder if they did all that to pull an Ultimate Spider-Man in the third game and just have Peter die.
Considering how many of Peter's A-listers are dead at this point.
Considering how many of Peter's A-listers are dead at this point.
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That would suck. I'm actually getting real tired of the trope of killing Peter off whenever he has a successor in line.
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Tbf I wouldn't take that as completely canon since its not intended to been seen and was scrapped
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Yeah it's non-canon material but it also gives an insight into what the developers were intending for Kraven.
Can't be used but interesting to know.
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It feels like they cut out an entire section from the last 2 hours of the game
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Yeah I saw that too, I also don't really like that part, but it did make Kraven more menacing. I'm also kinda of bugged by them setting up the Goblin after Venom. am I the only one who's always thought of Venom as Spiderman's true nemesis?
But at least we've got Carnage left.
But at least we've got Carnage left.
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Heroes usually have 2 main villains
The villains who hate them the most (Doomsday, Bane/Ra's, Black Manta, Godspeed, Red Skull, Klaw, Cheetah)
For Spidey, it's Venom
The villains who emotionally hurt them the most (Lex Luthor, Joker, Ocean Master, Reverse Flash, Winter Soldier, Killmonger, Ares)
For Spidey, it's Goblin
Makes sense?
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Yeah that's probably the way to put it.
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For Venom it's trolling Spidey in a way that doesn't hurt any innocent people
For Goblin it's trolling Spidey in a way that hurts innocent people, sometimes specifically
For Goblin it's trolling Spidey in a way that hurts innocent people, sometimes specifically
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Okay I just got the suit off peter, MJ can have a profile now from this game and I think I can finally discuss the full scaling with everyone aside from venom since I ain't seen em yet
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Check above, #711
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I forgot to ask, but what do you mean by this? Because if his electricity isn't MHS+ then I don't see what Cinematic timing would give us.
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Should there be any resistance given to Peter in the symbiotic suit for surviving inside of a particle accelerator while turned on?
Also is there any way to calculate venom turning the whole city to symbiote land?
Also is there any way to calculate venom turning the whole city to symbiote land?
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He wasn't in the beam so I don't think so. Most would maybe be radiation resistance.
If there is it wouldn't be scalable to his AP.
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Wasn’t he still hit by the discharges tho?
What about when Venom is using his tendrils to lift up buildings or parts of the city like he did in his fight against Peter, would that be scaled to LS at least?
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Discharges can all canonically be dodged. But I don't think Peter was avoiding the Ionizing Radiation.
Peter had to use the anti-symbiote to break the tendrils when he was restrained didn't he? I can see Venom getting X physically Y with tentacles but Peter was just using anti-biological hax to destroy them afaik.
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Probably yeah, but I think that since the discharges are survivable by Peter should also warrant some type of resistances for them, especially if it takes a good couple of them to actually be able to take Peter down.
I’m pretty sure there were scenes of Peter or Miles have a tug of war between Venom’s tendrils and the symbiote rock and there were scenes of Peter holding Venom all the way back using his own tendrils.
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I think it was Miles, though "up to Y with tentacles" would probably still be better, since the tendrils did restrain the Spiders
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Personally feel like Rhino should be above base peter and Miles since he still violated in that 2v1 and would have seemingly killed Peter prior to Miles unlocking his venom abilities and even then he could tank several serious venom strikes before going down.
The rest I suppose is fine by me
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