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The 6-B feats first will need to be shown, I am not a Mario expert but none of Mario profiles that I am seeing have it
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Mario CRT (Low 2-C Upgrade)
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I don't think variable is a good way of going about this.
Even ignoring how the lowest-end hasn't really been properly thought through, as we have, as a site, only looked at their higher showings, the tier 4 end would have to go, since most of the feats for it would scale to tier 2 if this is accepted. That's not even a thing of "portrayal" it's just interpretation over what exactly those feats are.
Even ignoring how the lowest-end hasn't really been properly thought through, as we have, as a site, only looked at their higher showings, the tier 4 end would have to go, since most of the feats for it would scale to tier 2 if this is accepted. That's not even a thing of "portrayal" it's just interpretation over what exactly those feats are.
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The 6-B feat comed from DKC DK punching a moon out of the sky, 7 Teratons or so if I recall, a version of DK that scales to apsolutely nobody but DC and Co.
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I agree with the feats listed in the OP. The question is how this is displayed on the profiles - i.e. whether this is a solid Low 2-C, a likely or a possibly. Leaving the scaling to a separate thread when we've already got 60+ members following this one doesn't seem like a good idea.
Note that there's also an ongoing thread for Low 2-C power stars here. If that is accepted, it will greatly improve the Low 2-C consistency by adding 1-2 more feats on this level.
DKC DK shouldn't be treated as separate from regular DK, but that's a topic for another thread.
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There was many things happen while I was sleeping, Anyway I am in argument with vaires tier, not only it us solve scaling problems but it is also support it by the statement that Mario characters are 'actors' that play difrent roles. Of course in Actor power will be vaires between difrence roles he takes
IDK what Mario low end will end up be but it should be either 6B or 7B
Anyway I guess we really should also wait for the Power Star CRT
IDK what Mario low end will end up be but it should be either 6B or 7B
Anyway I guess we really should also wait for the Power Star CRT
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(Confusion) So the feats would actually be 3-A by our standards then?
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I assume they mean Black Jewel's feat is legit?
Destruction via the chaos heart void has an explicit mention of destroying space-time, and the supermassive black hole is accepted as being Low 2-C rather than 3-A for destroying the "fabric of the universe".
Destruction via the chaos heart void has an explicit mention of destroying space-time, and the supermassive black hole is accepted as being Low 2-C rather than 3-A for destroying the "fabric of the universe".
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Creation of a universe that is parallel to a space-time should be low 2-C. Destruction requires more context but I think all these feats have said context.
Edit: I don't mind a varies based on those WoG's but we'd have to come up with different consistent ends, which seems a little beyond the purpose of this thread if you ask me.
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That was Low 7-B
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...are you serious? You got 10+ STAFF AGREEMENTS and you still call others?
No offense, but this is seriously reaching.
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I agree with low 2-C Bing Bing Wahoo I guess
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Nah, "only" 7.
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Still, 7-1 is not a thing that other callings are needed
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Tbf I suppose it’s a rather big upgrade to a wildly popular franchise that proved pretty controversial last time. Our Staff want to handle this carefully.
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At least the first 2, the 3rd one is Low 2-C
That was literally part of that thread lol. Got any evidence that it's parallel to space-time, and not just another physical universe within space-time?
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I don't know if I said it already, but I agree with the upgrade.
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If Low 2-C does get accepted, I think a new thread that determines who scales and what the rating will be will be good. (There are WAY more Low 2-C feats than this).
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are u voting to disagree for the sake of disagreeing?
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No, I followed the whole thread while they did it, I had disagreed for a long time.
However, I'm not very good at arguing, so I wrote almost nothing up to this point (I was the one who published Wario's translation, other than that I didn't do anything else).
-I don't really believe in powe star scaling.
-I'm not sure how valid the Wario World feat is, (Although my way of seeing the feat is probably headcanon).
-And how does vs battles wiki treat Paper Mario? I see it as different characters, so I don't think the feat "The Sammer Kingdom" is usable for normal Mario.
However, I'm not very good at arguing, so I wrote almost nothing up to this point (I was the one who published Wario's translation, other than that I didn't do anything else).
-I don't really believe in powe star scaling.
-I'm not sure how valid the Wario World feat is, (Although my way of seeing the feat is probably headcanon).
-And how does vs battles wiki treat Paper Mario? I see it as different characters, so I don't think the feat "The Sammer Kingdom" is usable for normal Mario.
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Paper Mario is treated the same as normal Mario
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I want to make certain. This has been a very controversial topic in the past.
A variable tier seems like the safest solution, although we would have to decide how to structure it.
Which staff members agree so far?
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The_Wright_Way, GyroNutz, Migue79, KieranH10, JustSomeWeirdo, The_real_cal_howard
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This + GyroNuts who is in agreement too
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I frankly don't see it necessary to make a tier 7/6 key for Mario. I mean the arguments that Mario more consistently preforms tier 7/6 feats is kinda moot when you consider that its kind of an AoE fallacy, since higher tier characters don't have to constantly bust starry skies/universes in order to be that tier.
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I don't think this is really that controversial now with this many agreements. And a variable for 3+ tiers really isn't needed, there's already enough Low 2-C and 4-A feats anyway, and after the power star thread and the new thread, even 4-A could be removed and it'll just be a flat Low 2-C at that point.
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I myself think 4-A to Low 2-C makes the most sense.
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In my opinion, if the power star thread is also accepted, then Mario and anyone who scales to him should get a flat Low 2-C rating. Otherwise there's as many 4-A feats as there are Low 2-C, with additional supporting tier 4 feats, so a "At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C" rating would make sense then.
Sparkive's disagreement seems like headcanon to me, though there's still overwhelming support for the Low 2-C side.
EDIT: I also want to say that a variable tier should be avoided, and only used when a character explicitly varies in power rather than simply having low and high showings. Mario fits the latter.
Sparkive's disagreement seems like headcanon to me, though there's still overwhelming support for the Low 2-C side.
EDIT: I also want to say that a variable tier should be avoided, and only used when a character explicitly varies in power rather than simply having low and high showings. Mario fits the latter.
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Which of the 3, or do you mean Wario's translation near the beginning of the thread?
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You said you disagreed with the Sammer's Kingdom feat because you didn't believe Paper Mario was the same as Mario. This has been discussed extensively already, though even if they were separate, Mario would still scale via Paper Jam.
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Paper mario=Mario has been discuss to death.
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What is your problem with the Power Star scaling? And how do you view the Wario World feat personally? (It's okay if it's more akin to your headcanon, I'm just curious as to what your doubts/interpretations entail).
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Like I said, even if they were separate characters, Paper Mario would scale to Mario and vice versa, so Paper Mario would be comparable to someone with his own tier 2 feats + scaling. But they're not, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.
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Why are we even debating Mario & Paper Mario being separate characters, that’s not even related to this thread?
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