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I am pretty sure that’s how it is
He summons the Buddha so he can keep still and gather nature energy
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Low 6-B Bone Crusher Tournament: Group A - Hashirama (Naruto) vs Zapdos (Pokemon)
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He summons the Buddha so he can keep still and gather nature energy
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Well now I feel as if I've been misled again.
Is it not a creature at all, or is it merely not a sentient/conscious creature?
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It's Wood shaped into specific forms and manipulated by the Caster, pumping Chakra into it is what makes it grow and what manipulates it
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He enters Sage Mode First because the Buddha is one of Hashirama's Sage Art Wood Releases along with the Gates
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Okay. Well Regirock doesn't have a heart or brain, and is entirely made of rock. They can be paralyzed, which means it's not an organic thing.
Pokemon forced to use a move through encore or instruct are still affected by paralysis, so it's not a personal control thing.
The only factor that might affect it is "life-force" or magic of some kind, which you've just admitted is inside the golem.
Therefore, I can only conclude that it can be paralyzed.
Edit Boogaloo: Okay, I just confirmed you fight one of the movie props with Thunder, which can paralyze. So it should work on inanimate things too.
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From the profile:
Mokuton (Wood Release): An advanced nature kekkei genkai that combines earth and water-based chakra natures to create wood or complete trees. This ability can also be used to grow other aspects of trees, such as seeds or flowers. Wood Release techniques can be produced from anywhere, including the user's body, as the user's chakra is converted into a source of life.
Mokuton (Wood Release): An advanced nature kekkei genkai that combines earth and water-based chakra natures to create wood or complete trees. This ability can also be used to grow other aspects of trees, such as seeds or flowers. Wood Release techniques can be produced from anywhere, including the user's body, as the user's chakra is converted into a source of life.
- Mokuton: Mokujin no Jutsu (Wood Release: Wood Human Technique): The user creates a gigantic wood statue to combat a similar-sized opponent such as Madara's Final Susanoo or the Biju. It is durable and fast enough to catch a Bijudama shot from Kurama and survive its explosion with the Mokuton: Hōbi no Jutsu.
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Chakra being a "Source of life" should not be taken in a literal sense as is.
Chakra is just what rapidly grows, creates, and manipulates the Wood in place of regular stuff (Sunlight, Nutrients, etc.)
Unless you consider the cages, totems, and building structures that are made with Mokuton are also "alive"
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Yes, and it being made of living material convinces me even more.
You can paralyze things which have no brain, literally rock, literally water, plants, ghosts, metal, robots, literally computer code.
Even special effects props can be paralyzed somehow, so I don't see why this wood golem is special just because someone else is controlling it.
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Because nobody mentioned it working on literal movie props before?
I was under the assumption that Paralyze solely worked on Pokemon because of their weird bodies but then you mentioned it affecting literal movie props.
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Even without that, the sheer variety of borderline inanimate Pokémon anatomy that can be paralyzed should be sufficient evidence that it can paralyze basically anything that moves (and some things which don't move, which is sort of pointless but whatever).
It's not just a Pokémon thing because humans have also been paralyzed before too.
Obviously no golems exist in Pokémon that aren't, well, Pokémon. Verse equalization should let us generalize.
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But these are not a threat for a speed amped Zapdos. The buddha was the only thing, from what I've seen, that could result in Hashi outlasting Zapdos.
Either way, we still haven't got an answer from where exactly he is in Low 6-B, which is really relevant.
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Why would you paralyze something that lacks movement? No. It can paralyze inanimate objects, but it has no effect if you have no movement to be paralyzed in the first place.
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I wasn't even debating whether Hashirama would win though? I was asking how Paralyze would work on Mokuton which FinePoint answered
Baseline Scaling to Madara's Upscaling his own casual 991 Gigaton Feat.
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Where'd you get that from?
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Why are you asking me? Ask FinePoint.
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Well it isn't. Hashirama is Baseline Scaling to Madara who's also Baseline via a Casual 991 Gigatons Feat.
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So if Zapdos is 3.82 Teratons & Hashirama is "Baseline Scaling to Madara" (Sorry, but clarify what you mean please?) to a Casual 991 Gigatons Feat (Which one?), what is the AP difference?
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A literal cup can be paralyzed... It's been possessed by a ghost, but it's still an everyday object.
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I'm just gonna ignore that because FinePoint already addressed my concerns and you're just pointlessly bringing up a concluded discussion
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I am currently not able to pin point the thread which had his AP for Wood release
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So, a hit from Wood Style would have 500 Gigatons against Zapdos. I see.
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Little far behind on the replies, shitty internet. Please forgive me.
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@OneBleachHurricane : So this is accurate, then?
If I may ask, then, where do you stand on that matter?
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It seems so. I voted inconclusive, but given that Zapdos has an elemetal advantage against his Wood Style given Naruto's own rules, I am starting to lean towards Zapdos.
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Yes
Apologies then, I thought you read through the thread.
Thunder **** has the Stat Advantage + Good Range + Decent Hax
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So, going back in this thread, all of the FRA votes seem to stem from this post.
To me this just seems bogus.
Zapdos can one-shot him, paralyze and beat up the golem, and speed amp a lot.
In addition, his attacks do almost no damage even from the golem.
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So he's baseline Low 6-B with Wood golem ? Does this effect his match with Pinkie Pie ?
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To what value does PP scale and what were Hash browns Win Cons?
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Yeah, I'm of the opinion that Zapdos.... At least shouldn't be counted out, if not has a decent chance of winning.
Plus, does Hashirama have any answer to Zapdos flying high? &/or flying into a Thunderstorm to heal &/or setting up Agility before or after that? (Or healing with Roost?)
Also, how does Hashirama's Durability work? What tier is Hashirama against Electricity?
(Although, Static triggering is still only a 30% chance to trigger per hit, so the golem could get in some hits, but Zapdos has other means of Paralysis. Like the heavily multi-directional attack Discharge, which also has a 30% chance of inflicting Paralysis.)
Plus, does Hashirama have any answer to Zapdos flying high? &/or flying into a Thunderstorm to heal &/or setting up Agility before or after that? (Or healing with Roost?)
Also, how does Hashirama's Durability work? What tier is Hashirama against Electricity?
Yeah, I questioned the validity of the FRA.
(Although, Static triggering is still only a 30% chance to trigger per hit, so the golem could get in some hits, but Zapdos has other means of Paralysis. Like the heavily multi-directional attack Discharge, which also has a 30% chance of inflicting Paralysis.)
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It might. What's his exact physical durability?
From my understanding, the golem will hit Zapdos, like, a lot. So probably a moot point.
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Pinkie is 5.47 Teratons this is the thread I don't remember the exact win cons Finepoint can point out.
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Then PP should go right through the Wood Constructs then
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If you don't mind me asking, what happened to Pinkie vs Zapdos?
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Basically from what I've seen in other VS Threads, a 7.5X difference is a One-Shot, but it is also generally accepted that a 5X difference is enough to debilitate or cripple your opponent (If they don't have Regen)
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I was really frustrated with that thread, because it never really felt clear to me.
Looking back, the first wincon brought up is that he can "outlast her" and outskill her, right after someone said he doesn't lead with sleep hax, and that he can be one-shot. Someone from his side even admitted she could probably get a hit in (since she gag teleports right into range).
Then later it's decided it's a stomp because he can "just think 90% of his hax into the fold"
But then in this thread I'm told most of his hax isn't that useful.
So in hindsight, I'm questioning that match too. It seems people have just been extremely quick to "FRA"
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7.5x is the accepted one-shot range on a humanoid opponent, yes.
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