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Lord of the Rings revisions
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Eru in this scene gets Plot Manipulation, he makes, deletes, changes and it is included in the Fundamental Aspect made by Tolkien.
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I don't see any metaficional elements.
I will make changes tomorrow. Thanks for scans.
I will make changes tomorrow. Thanks for scans.
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Thank you.
By the way, I put Eru's speed as unknown last time I edited the page (being previously immeasurable for outdated timeless void reasons) but he can probably be put at infinite for upscaling from the Ainur.
I do have an argument to make for immeasurable speed (among other things) for the Ainur (in their origin), but I'll have to check their validity, as it's from Morgoth's Ring, which is mostly made up from earlier drafts, with relevant stuff mixed in.
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Eru is suitable to be placed with Infinite or Omnipresent speed even though it's not speed
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Letter 192
Letter 192 is a letter written by J.R.R. Tolkien and published in The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien.
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for Tyranno223 when will you be able to edit Eru's profile
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Do you guys agree with this justification first?
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I'm pretty happy with it. Might change the wording just a bit though. Eru may qualitatively view the universe on the same level as fiction, but he never regards it as such. Just a quick edit, but maybe something like this?
Low Complex Multiverse level (Eru holds and sustains the entire universe in his thoughts/mind, which is confirmed to be a space-time continuum, and sees it on the same level as fiction. He exists in a higher state of reality, and is repeatedly described as the author of the story)
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I don't mind. @Antvasima what do you think?
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When did Eru's profile change?
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"The Other Power then took over: the Writer of the Story (by which I do not mean myself), 'that one ever-present Person who is never absent and never named'." It's written in Letter 192. And i think this could be big potential for Plot Manipulation on Eru Ilúvatar. Cuz This Letter is refer to Ilúvatar. That mean Ilúvatar take the stories of the fiction. He took it from the Author.
1. It mean he can manipulate the Plot. Doing whatever he want, from the fiction. Govern the stories of the fiction mean he can Govern everything till the Fundamental Aspect. This mean he qualified to have Plot Manipulation.
2. If he took the stories from the author. That mean they have same degree. Author>Fiction. If there a character have same degree with the Author that mean the Character was have more superiority Place if we compared with the verse (Lord Of The Ring's have 3D Spatial + 1D Temporal/Space-time continuum). Transcending this (like the author) mean he has Transcending the Space-time Continuum too.
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I think Ilúvatar deserve have 5D Existence (minimum). And Plot Manipulation. The Cosmology doesnt up to L1C. Cuz i think have the same existence with the Author mean his Transcended his fiction. Not the Fiction have L1C Continuum.
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I don't see any metafictional element. The rest of your interpretation are just speculations.
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It seems fine to me.
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Tyranno223 when did you revise Eru's profile
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@Tyranno223 @TheMerchant66
Tell us here when either of you are able to properly revise Eru's VSBW profile page.
Tell us here when either of you are able to properly revise Eru's VSBW profile page.
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I believe Dread is planning on doing it, or at least that's what I assumed from one of her ealier posts.
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I have skin rash, and I guess by tomorrow (if things went good, or under control), I will do the changes. Apologies
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No problem, health comes first. Stay safe.
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It is Sunday, but at the morning tomorrow, I will be buying them. I was in the hospital and the doctor said I need to take them for 5 days. I could not sleep yesterday because of it and it spreads to all my body. But I will promise to do changes once I get it under my control.
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Thanks :3Okay. No problem, and good luck.
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Looks like Eru's profile revision has been delayed forever, is there anyone here who really intends to change Eru's profile?
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Oh, the profile is not unlocked yet. @Antvasima mind unlocking it? I will change it according to this.
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For Dread, are you ready to change Eru's profile now?
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Yes and be patient
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Done. I inserted the scans, added the tier, and the justification as well.
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Thank you, but this seems like a very sloppily structured edit:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Eru_Ilúvatar?type=revision&diff=7783300&oldid=77832810
Why does Eru suddenly have two unexplained keys, and why are his statistics not consistent?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Eru_Ilúvatar?type=revision&diff=7783300&oldid=77832810
Why does Eru suddenly have two unexplained keys, and why are his statistics not consistent?
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Unsure, what I should call it. Maybe? Author?
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This is at least what I understood from this thread. Unless, it is all in the same key, then I can change it.Thank you, but this seems like a very sloppily structured edit:
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Eru is the God of Lord of the Rings, who created all the Ainur with his thoughts and taught them music. Together, they sung a Song of the Ainur, but the first harmony was destroyed by Melkor. Eru introduced a second harmony, with Manwë, brother of Melkor, as the leading role, however Melkor...vsbattles.fandom.com
Why does Eru suddenly have two statistics keys, and why are his statistics not consistent?
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There are two levels, one universe level+ and one “Author” level.
@Tyranno223 Mind confirming for me if it is two keys or all in one?
@Tyranno223 Mind confirming for me if it is two keys or all in one?
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Once @Tyranno223 confirms it, I will change it again! I am now a little better than yesterday, and I have it under my control.
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From my understanding, Eru has no seperate keys as he never enters the story in person (unlike the Ainur), all of his actions are from outside Eä (although some obviously directly have an effect inside it)
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