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What's Touma's wincon?
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Let's the chaos begin! Kamijou Touma vs Iihiko
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1. *5-CMalox1696 said:
2. That's just skill not stomp.
3. ^^^ Him being skilled enough to kill Touma before he gets close is just Iihiko being good, not Touma not having a win cond.
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Didn't people say that if Touma hits Iihiko he will kill him?
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It might cancel out the legend possessing the unnamed Shiranui.
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i don't know who said that, but the body need to be supernatural itself (for example serverant are still made of mana, etc) not just made by supernatural mean or enhanced by supernatural means, if it's normalized it does not get negated, we had many examples before (MG, aleister, coronzon, saints,etc)
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Oh, that complicates things then. Imma wait for more people before making Kumagawa vs Accel.
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Hmmm. Could Touma's precog allow him to block the rubber band with his arm? Its his first move in character and even if it doesnt null then dragons come out, and Ihiko dies very easily. I dont think that the power-null is even required.
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Yeah, and there is also IT who can do the same
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The issue is that if he does that he's still getting hit with a 5-C attack. It won't negate his durability, but it doesn't even need to. Ihiko can still kill people the normal way.
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I think that Touma would probably take this because speed is equal and his precog would allow him to block the attack with his right arm, his first move in character. That unleashes either the Dragons or the IT so Im wondering how the battle goes otherwse.
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Even if the tries to block the rubber band (assuming Iihiko will start with it anyway, he could start with air waves just fine), that will 1 shot him. Im pretty sure the right hand powers don't work if Touma is dead.
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If his arm gets atomized, then Touma yeets Ihiko to oblivion with Dragons or IT
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Pretty sure precoging Iihiko gonna be hard, considering Ajimu had some precog that we don't count either way, but still. Speed equal and precog doesn't allow Touma to take on someone with 5k years of experience of fighting Ajimu Najimi who can use virtually anything as a weapon and has a 1 shot move.Argoneedsmorelove said:
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Taking that kind of force to his arm is absolutely gonna kill him, especially if he's actively trying to block. Force doesn't just stay in neat little lines like that.
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And you're assuming Touma himself will be just fine after the hit? Iihiko's not gonna be aiming for the right arm, he'll be aiming to kill Touma.EmperorDoom25 said:
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Idk he managed to block MIsaka MIkoto's lightning the first time he met her, without any prior knowlege, and I believe that the lightning is faster than the rubber band.(correct me if im wrong)
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Well his rubber band managed to blitz Ajimu Najimi who is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster than Medaka Kurokami so do the math yourself.Argoneedsmorelove said:
And speed is equal. It's gonna be pretty hard to react to the rubber band considering it would logically be faster than both of the fighter's moving speed.
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I think that Touma would be killed, but IT or the Dragons would kill Ihiko. Since the dragons exist seperatly killing Touma would not stop them.
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It all comes down to if the rubber band takes just his arm or another parts of the body. We cant really predict what would happen
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If Touma dies those 2 don't work though do they?Argoneedsmorelove said:
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You can cast the votes i guess, but you'd need a strong argument for how he is gonna be able to react to the rubber band or air waves. Precog shouldn't work considering none of Ajimu's skills worked.EmperorDoom25 said:
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The Dragons exist seperatly so they should still work. IDK about IT.
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If the arm can't stop the attack, it should just go right through it and Touma's body as well.
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So if Touma dies but him dying kills Ihiko than would it be considered inconclusive?
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Yes
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I guess. How would Iihiko die?
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Dragons definetly because they exist seperatly so Touma dying would not stop them. Idk if IT is seperate but if it is it would also work. I vote inconclusive,
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Incon FRA
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We're overlooking something here. How would the dragons kill Iihiko exactly?
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How strong are those dragons?
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They're stronger than 5-B apparently, but i don't get how they get past Iihiko's Subjective Immunity and Attack Reflection.
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If IB already erases Iihiko, then the Dragons just do the same but better, and with more rangeFirephoenixearl said:
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And if they dont than IT that tanked a blast powerful enough to destroy the planet comes out and attacks because Touma isn't there to stop it.
