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This thread will be meant to discuss scaling of the cast of our Kenganverse cast, mainly due to new feats being calculated and there being present issues when it comes to the scaling of the character. I'll be discussing Omega scaling at a later point, for now I plan on focusing on the original series.
Low to Mid tiers
Currently everyone is scaling to Saw's Hammer of Burma which shouldn't be the case and R2 Ohma's Iron-Breaker which shouldn't be the case. Saw's Hammer is his strongest attack in his arsenal, and R2 Ohma's Iron-Breaker is from a much stronger and Unrestricted Ohma so there's no reason why they should be scaling to either of these feats.
Fortunately we have some new calcs which will help us find better scaling for the character's. A Mid tier such as Karo was able to kill a massive whale many times the size of a Blue Whale using nothing but a harpoon and his bare hands. The KE of the whale is 9-A+ 0.21 tons (Chapter 84.) oddly consistent with Saw's Hammer of Burma. I also saw a user in the blog arguing that this isn't legitimate due to Karo using a harpoon to kill the whale, so let me explain why that argument doesn't make sense. Karo did not use a harpoon gun to kill the whale, he generated all that force from his sheer strength, not from an outside source. And the Harpoon itself should be irrelevant to this feat, as Karo would have needed to throw it with enough force to kill it.
This same attack was tanked by other characters such as Saw. So the scaling would look like this for all the Kengan fighters who will be affected.
* Karo Yoshinari (9-A+ killed a gigantic whale in one blow.)
*Yoroizuka Saw Paing's normal AP. His durability should scale to his Hammer since he can withstand the force of the attack without any damage. This wouldn't effect his scaling either as Karo would still be able to harm Saw despite his better durability given how close the two feats are. 0.21 tons vs 0.40 tons.
* R1 Ohma without the Possessing Spirit
*Inaba Ryo (for fighting against base R1 Ohma.)
*Adam Dudley (on par with Karo.)
*Imai Cosmo (Fought Adam and endured several of his blows.)
*Base Rei Mikazuchi
Those who scale to Wall Level
*Nezu Masami
*Kaneda Suekichi
*Chiba Takayuki
*Hatsumi Sen (Not peak condition.)
*Nakata Ichiro
*Hanafusa Hajime
*Himuro Ryo
High tiers
Now time for the upgrades, recently we've had several new calculations done for thr verse, a few of which pack pretty good and surprisingly consistent results.
Here we have two notable feats, Round Two Ohma's Iron-Breaker 0.96 tons and Round 3 Ohma shaking the Kengan Arena. 1.54 kilotons. (Chapter 220 Wholeheartedly.) At first glance the last feat would seem like an outlier, but I couldn't disagree more. Mainly due to Ohma having another 7-C feat in the form of Demonsbane clocking in at 25 Kilotons. (Chapter 174 Demonsbane page 10-12.)
And while Demonsbane doesn't scale to anyone directly since it seriously injured every opponent it landed it, it does scale to the amount of damage he can reflect back at the attacker with it, and provides consistency with Ohma's nigh baseline Low 7-C feat.
This is also further supported by Wakatsuki Takeshi Shaking a mountain, clocking at 493.64 tons. There's also characters in this series who are partially responsible for terraforming New Zealand albeit in an unknown time frame. The point being that the "outlier" argument isn't applicable here due to the amount of feats around this level, to say otherwise is essentially argument from incredulity and disbelief. Plenty of verses go through massive tier jumps, and this one in particular isn't anything astronomical. And with my suggestion for scaling everyone should be happy.
Now it's time to discuss scaling.
Round 2 Base Ohma obviously scales to his own Iron-Breaker feat, Base Raian would also scale significantly above Ohma's Iron-Breaker due to him barely receiving damage from dozens of Ohma's Iron-Breaker. So both of these characters in base form would scale to anyone who branches off them. So the following characters would scale to base R2 Ohma, and base Raian. The following characters scale to Ohma's Iron-Breaker, 0.96 Tons.
Sekibayashi Jun
Akoya Seishu
Rounds 2 and 3 Imai Cosmo
Kono Haruo
Bando Yohei
Mokichi Robinson
Murobuchi Gozo
Kiozan Takeru (Without Raging Vigor.)
Mikazuchi Rei (Boosted.)
Moving onto to Possessing Spirit Ohma and Removal Raian. Both of these guys have a 3x multiplier, and can match each other. 3.20 tons. High 8-C. The following characters should scale.
Advance Ohma and Removal Raian.
Round 1 and Round 2 Kanoh Agito
Gaolang Wongsawat
Okubo Naoya
Hatsumi Sen (Peak condition.).
Kiryu Setsuna
God Tiers
Now this is where it gets interesting. For the God Tiers, they should be scaling to Ohma's shaking of the Kengan Dome, Low 7-C. (Chapter 220 wholeheartedly page 26-27.)
But for the sake of Low balling I suggest meeting half way. The God Tiers of the verse should be labeled as "At Least High 8-B, likely Low 7-C."
The people who would scale to this are Semi Finals Ohma. He'd also get a full 7-C rating via Demonsbane. Ohma at this point would be scaling to 3.20 tons and 1.54 Kilotons respectfully.
Semi Finals Kanoh, and Kuroki Gensai scale to Wakatsuki, who is rated as being 5x stronger than Ohma's Indestructible. So these characters would get "8-B, likely Low 7-C." (16 tons and 1.54 Kilotons.) Kanoh has fought Wakatsuki before and states Gensai's blows hit Hit harder. Julius and Wakatsuki scale to this for obvious reasons. Ohma's durability wouldn't scale to any of the characters here as he was shown getting severally damaged from them, without the aid of The Redirection Kata and Demonsbane he was grievously injured.
Agreement: 10 (StrawHatArslan, DarkDragonMedus, Arc7Kuroi, KingTempest, HammerStrikes219, shmooply, InfiniteDay, The Man with the Midas Touch, DragonGamerZ913, Franako.)
Low to Mid tiers
Currently everyone is scaling to Saw's Hammer of Burma which shouldn't be the case and R2 Ohma's Iron-Breaker which shouldn't be the case. Saw's Hammer is his strongest attack in his arsenal, and R2 Ohma's Iron-Breaker is from a much stronger and Unrestricted Ohma so there's no reason why they should be scaling to either of these feats.
Fortunately we have some new calcs which will help us find better scaling for the character's. A Mid tier such as Karo was able to kill a massive whale many times the size of a Blue Whale using nothing but a harpoon and his bare hands. The KE of the whale is 9-A+ 0.21 tons (Chapter 84.) oddly consistent with Saw's Hammer of Burma. I also saw a user in the blog arguing that this isn't legitimate due to Karo using a harpoon to kill the whale, so let me explain why that argument doesn't make sense. Karo did not use a harpoon gun to kill the whale, he generated all that force from his sheer strength, not from an outside source. And the Harpoon itself should be irrelevant to this feat, as Karo would have needed to throw it with enough force to kill it.
This same attack was tanked by other characters such as Saw. So the scaling would look like this for all the Kengan fighters who will be affected.
* Karo Yoshinari (9-A+ killed a gigantic whale in one blow.)
*Yoroizuka Saw Paing's normal AP. His durability should scale to his Hammer since he can withstand the force of the attack without any damage. This wouldn't effect his scaling either as Karo would still be able to harm Saw despite his better durability given how close the two feats are. 0.21 tons vs 0.40 tons.
* R1 Ohma without the Possessing Spirit
*Inaba Ryo (for fighting against base R1 Ohma.)
*Adam Dudley (on par with Karo.)
*Imai Cosmo (Fought Adam and endured several of his blows.)
*Base Rei Mikazuchi
Those who scale to Wall Level
*Nezu Masami
*Kaneda Suekichi
*Chiba Takayuki
*Hatsumi Sen (Not peak condition.)
*Nakata Ichiro
*Hanafusa Hajime
*Himuro Ryo
High tiers
Now time for the upgrades, recently we've had several new calculations done for thr verse, a few of which pack pretty good and surprisingly consistent results.
Here we have two notable feats, Round Two Ohma's Iron-Breaker 0.96 tons and Round 3 Ohma shaking the Kengan Arena. 1.54 kilotons. (Chapter 220 Wholeheartedly.) At first glance the last feat would seem like an outlier, but I couldn't disagree more. Mainly due to Ohma having another 7-C feat in the form of Demonsbane clocking in at 25 Kilotons. (Chapter 174 Demonsbane page 10-12.)
And while Demonsbane doesn't scale to anyone directly since it seriously injured every opponent it landed it, it does scale to the amount of damage he can reflect back at the attacker with it, and provides consistency with Ohma's nigh baseline Low 7-C feat.
This is also further supported by Wakatsuki Takeshi Shaking a mountain, clocking at 493.64 tons. There's also characters in this series who are partially responsible for terraforming New Zealand albeit in an unknown time frame. The point being that the "outlier" argument isn't applicable here due to the amount of feats around this level, to say otherwise is essentially argument from incredulity and disbelief. Plenty of verses go through massive tier jumps, and this one in particular isn't anything astronomical. And with my suggestion for scaling everyone should be happy.
Now it's time to discuss scaling.
Round 2 Base Ohma obviously scales to his own Iron-Breaker feat, Base Raian would also scale significantly above Ohma's Iron-Breaker due to him barely receiving damage from dozens of Ohma's Iron-Breaker. So both of these characters in base form would scale to anyone who branches off them. So the following characters would scale to base R2 Ohma, and base Raian. The following characters scale to Ohma's Iron-Breaker, 0.96 Tons.
Sekibayashi Jun
Akoya Seishu
Rounds 2 and 3 Imai Cosmo
Kono Haruo
Bando Yohei
Mokichi Robinson
Murobuchi Gozo
Kiozan Takeru (Without Raging Vigor.)
Mikazuchi Rei (Boosted.)
Moving onto to Possessing Spirit Ohma and Removal Raian. Both of these guys have a 3x multiplier, and can match each other. 3.20 tons. High 8-C. The following characters should scale.
Advance Ohma and Removal Raian.
Round 1 and Round 2 Kanoh Agito
Gaolang Wongsawat
Okubo Naoya
Hatsumi Sen (Peak condition.).
Kiryu Setsuna
God Tiers
Now this is where it gets interesting. For the God Tiers, they should be scaling to Ohma's shaking of the Kengan Dome, Low 7-C. (Chapter 220 wholeheartedly page 26-27.)
But for the sake of Low balling I suggest meeting half way. The God Tiers of the verse should be labeled as "At Least High 8-B, likely Low 7-C."
The people who would scale to this are Semi Finals Ohma. He'd also get a full 7-C rating via Demonsbane. Ohma at this point would be scaling to 3.20 tons and 1.54 Kilotons respectfully.
Semi Finals Kanoh, and Kuroki Gensai scale to Wakatsuki, who is rated as being 5x stronger than Ohma's Indestructible. So these characters would get "8-B, likely Low 7-C." (16 tons and 1.54 Kilotons.) Kanoh has fought Wakatsuki before and states Gensai's blows hit Hit harder. Julius and Wakatsuki scale to this for obvious reasons. Ohma's durability wouldn't scale to any of the characters here as he was shown getting severally damaged from them, without the aid of The Redirection Kata and Demonsbane he was grievously injured.
Agreement: 10 (StrawHatArslan, DarkDragonMedus, Arc7Kuroi, KingTempest, HammerStrikes219, shmooply, InfiniteDay, The Man with the Midas Touch, DragonGamerZ913, Franako.)
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