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The point is. Would protag kun find a cliche for a protagonist?Ricsi-viragosi said:So, yeah, if he actualy had a canonical plot manip, he would get powernulled, and possibly romanced as well.
He wouldn't view issei as a protagonist, or if he did Issei wouéd get erased cuz there can be only one, kind of what happened to classmate-kunFirephoenixearl said:The point is. Would protag kun find a cliche for a protagonist?
So ise would be deemed as what then? I mean if he wouldn't view ise as a protag, what would he view ise as?Ricsi-viragosi said:He wouldn't view issei as a protagonist, or if he did Issei wouéd get erased cuz there can be only one, kind of what happened to classmate-kun
So ise would passively lose?Ricsi-viragosi said:Either as a love intrest or an extra.
Passive hax vs brute strength.Ricsi-viragosi said:If he is seen as an extra.
If he is seen as a love intrest he might win if he gets pshycotic enough
Because the passive hax is not fatal.Firephoenixearl said:Passive hax vs brute strength.
How is this fair again?
If it's not fatal then Ise throws his oppai doll.Ricsi-viragosi said:Because the passive hax is not fatal.
> Passive powersRicsi-viragosi said:You...
you completly ignore all oh his powers don't you?
It passivly forces the plot to go in a way that makes a cliche romance plot.
And the plot has control over several time-lines.
Ap doesn't matter here
All that he needs to do is get jelous, angry or whatever enough to kill prot. That doesn't change the fact that he is in love with himRicsi-viragosi said:If he is seen as a love intrest he might win if he gets pshycotic enough
>IseRicsi-viragosi said:I'll... I'll just quote myself, because I already explained that.All that he needs to do is get jelous, angry or whatever enough to kill prot.Ricsi-viragosi said:If he is seen as a love intrest he might win if he gets pshycotic enough
That doesn't change the fact that he is in love with him
He... doesn't really have a choice as far as falling n love goes.Firephoenixearl said:>Ise
>Likes oppai
>"get pshycotic over a guy"
Somehow i don't feel like that would rly work. Besides he's not the type to go mental over his girls.
Tell me with what, plese. Because his hax come from ona ability that I explained to be rather restricted aboveHizack123 said:HAXX stomp
So issei can do what? Like describe the scenario when Ise wins.Ricsi-viragosi said:Litiraly all he needs to do is make it a cliche way for him to die or be incapacitated.
And its not just famous cliche's, in one ending he litiraly became a shota and went and made "protag-kun no pico".
I just said he doesnt.DragonEmperor23 said:So he passively loses. Passive losses do not count. See Nihilus, The Golden King, and Sirzechs.
^ how would dying be Issei's winRicsi-viragosi said:Dies any cliche way for the protagonist to die really.
Die by sacrificing himslef to kill/seal/incapacitate, befriand each other and have a random bad guy kill protag making him determintaed to beat the bad guy to avenge his now friend, "bfr" by telling protag that he is far superior pbysically and to go to train for a month (feels very riser, but meh) etc
Pretty sure there are lots of characters who would see how weak he is and tell him to get stronger.DragonEmperor23 said:I'm like 99% sure there are no characters who's first response to fighting someone is to tell them to go train.
When he described he's powers he described it as "I'll have to go through several hard fought battles to get my dark powers unlocked".DragonEmperor23 said:One Hit Kill is a cliche. So is the new villain shows up and beats the protagonist instantly cliche.