Insane Majin fights an insane Hedgehog

[Chaos Jester25]

How can Fleetway Sonic even negate durability at a higher degree cause last I checked he can only negate maybe at a 2-B level not a 2-A level

Buu has 3-D body meaning he can be affected by any 3D hax he has no resistance to. Sonic has haxes Buu lacks a resistance to like power null and petrification.

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

To back this even if Super starts with his best haxes on the bat, Buu has absorb characters from Xenoverse DB before and can regenerate highly

And Buu kept up with Xeno Goku before

 

[Chaos Jester25]

To back this even if Super starts with his best haxes on the bat, Buu has absorb characters from Xenoverse DB before and can regenerate highly

He is bloodlusted meaning he will start with his best haxes. Sonic has thought based hax meaning they will be faster than Buu's absorption. He could just incap with petrification or null Buu's regen so it does not work.

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

Besides Buu outstats

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

Besides bloodlusted or not Buu is much faster and likely blitzes from I heard and since he scales to Xeno Goku, his speed is likely faster then Super Sonic unless he has some upgrade or if Buu is not Bloodlusted then Super wins

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Besides Buu outstats

Hax don't care for stats.

Besides bloodlusted or not Buu is much faster and likely bltizes

Speed is equalized.

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

For a quick sec is Buu bloodlusted

 

[Chaos Jester25]

For a quick sec is Buu bloodlusted

Both are bloodlusted.

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

Hax don't care for stats.

Speed is equalized.

NVM Sonic wins via battle rules otherwise if we in a real debate Buu blitzes and outstats

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

Explain how this is not a real debate

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

Because were using VSBW rules and pretty sure Buu is faster in terms of Massive FTL+ Speed but since the rules for this says its equal, its why Sonic won but whatever

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Anyway, since when did Super Sonic start a fight with hax? Buu sneezes and Sonic dies.

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

* Standard Battle Assumptions (Sonic is 2-C, Buu is 2-A, speed is equalized and both are bloodlusted)

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

Still think its not a stomp and won't be surprised if someone says Incon

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Still think its not a stomp and won't be surprised if someone says Incon

It's a stomp cause Buu one shots and sonic never started with hax.

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

Check my posts

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

The rules in that battle states that Super starts with hax and speed is equal

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

When people are angry

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

It's a stomp cause Buu one shots and sonic never started with hax.

Both Sonic and Buu are bloodlusted, so what he starts in character doesn't matter here

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

The rules in that battle states that Super starts with hax and speed is equal

Actually I just stated that they're bloodlusted. Not that Sonic specifically starts with hax

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

If that's the case then Buu outstats and outskills and AP punches lol since he is bloodlusted and likely won't let Super do anything and his speed can give him an edge

IDC Buu wins

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Super Sonic is also bloodlusted though, not just Buu

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

Does not matter, he likely speed and AP punches as well before Super can start with anything on his side

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Super Sonic is also bloodlusted though, not just Buu

Super Sonic is always bloodlusted, yet he never starts with hax. And since when does "bloodlusted" mean "always starts with hax"?

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Super Sonic is always bloodlusted, yet he never starts with hax.

From the bloodlust page "It should be noted that there are differences between natural bloodlust (the kind that exists within fictional continuities) and induced bloodlust (the kind used in a vs. thread). Induced bloodlust means the character is free from Plot Induced Stupidity, whereas naturally bloodlusted characters are still vulnerable to this".

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

Well like I said Buu is also bloodlusted as well and he AP strikes and etc

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

From the bloodlust page "It should be noted that there are differences between natural bloodlust (the kind that exists within fictional continuities) and induced bloodlust (the kind used in a vs. thread). Induced bloodlust means the character is free from Plot Induced Stupidity, whereas naturally bloodlusted characters are still vulnerable to this".

Not starting with hax is not necessarily PIS

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Not starting with hax is not necessarily PIS

Meaning it is not bloodlust.

 

[Soupywolf5]

Ah hax, the bane of Dragon Ball's existence

Hedgehog FRA

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Why do you keep assuming that Sonic starts with Hax? Bloodlust is being willing to kill, that's it. Sonic may try to punch Buu and hurt his hand.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Bloodlust is being willing to kill, that's it. Sonic may try to punch Buu and hurt his hand.

From Bloodlust's page on the wikl:

"Bloodlust refers to a state where a character is fighting without any inhibitions, and cares about nothing other than defeating the enemy.
Bloodlusted characters fear nothing, and won't hesitate taking injures if it leads to a higher probability of winning a battle."

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

Buu stiill wins via AP and hax resistances and speed tho

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

From Bloodlust's page on the wikl:

"Bloodlust refers to a state where a character is fighting without any inhibitions, and cares about nothing other than defeating the enemy.
Bloodlusted characters fear nothing, and won't hesitate taking injures if it leads to a higher probability of winning a battle."

Nothing here implies starting with hax. I don't mean Sonic wouldn't want to use hax, he just won't start the fight with using hax.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Bloodlust means that the fights would use whatever they have in their arsenal to win in the battle, including hax, even if said hax isn't used in-character

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Bloodlust means that the fights would use whatever they have in their arsenal to win in the battle, including hax, even if said hax isn't used in-character

I never said Sonic won't use hax, I meant he won't start with it.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

If that hax will help Sonic win in this battle and he's bloodlusted, meaning in-character tactics aren't relevant here, why wouldn't he start with his haxes?
The same obviously applies to Buu

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

If that hax will help Sonic win in this battle and he's bloodlusted, meaning in-character tactics aren't relevant here, why wouldn't he start with his haxes?
The same obviously applies to Buu

Cause being bloodlusted means willing to kill. Characters tatctics are still a thing

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Cause being bloodlusted means willing to kill. Characters tatctics are still a thing

From the bloodlusted page "A bloodlusted character will not be victim to Character Induced Stupidity" Meaning they will open with hax.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Bloodlust means without plot induced stupidity.

Da Lunge Fish tries to introduce Plot Induced Stupidity anyway

Buu stiill wins via AP and hax resistances and speed tho

Dragon Ball Hax Resistance is NLF when Buu never resisted the Hax Super Sonic has.

If this NLF Dragon Ball Hax resistance is being used, so is Sonic’s NLF Invulnerability, which would prevent 3D 2-A Buu from hurting 3D 2-C Super Sonic.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

although they are mostly bloodlusted in canon tho