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Infinite Zamasu Low 1-C upgrade

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Clover that's not the problem. His Ap of course wouldn't scale. It's the dura that is the problem since Zamasu has that range via extending his very being and making the structure part of himself. We saw he was about to enter the main timeline before he was puffed out of existence.


He would never get low 1-c ap. Nothing supports that. He would be a reverse glass canon. His dura would be much higher than his ap which would be even lower than fused Zamasu's.
Dude his durability cannot scale he didn’t completely fuse with the hypertimeline. He just fused with the contents inside it, and then reached another one. If his durability scales his AP scales this key is literally based off his omnipresence scaling to physicals like Omega said. At the absolute best; this is literally just Low 1-C range.
 
I’m kinda seeing this too but if we can explain that he’s just low 1-C glass canon then I’m fine with just range otherwise we must include dura……but that seems to be a first for it to not scale to AP in Dragon Ball of all things
In his case, there's a reason, even normal Zamasu's durability scaled far above his AP cuz of his wish

Dude his durability cannot scale he didn’t completely fuse with the hypertimeline. He just fused with the contents inside it, and then reached another one. If his durability scales his AP scales this key is literally based off his omnipresence scaling to physicals like Omega said. At the absolute best; this is literally just Low 1-C range.
His profile isn't supposed to say that, it could easily be fixed, his AP isn't scaling
 
I’m kinda seeing this too but if we can explain that he’s just low 1-C glass canon then I’m fine with just range otherwise we must include dura……but that seems to be a first for it to not scale to AP in Dragon Ball of all things
Yeah because Zamasu literally wished for immortality. Not for make me a powerful warrior. That one was Black. Him being a turtle makes sense.
If his durability scales his AP scales this key is literally based off his omnipresence scaling to physicals like Omega said.
There is no reason for his Ap to scale. It was never mentioned he was growing stronger. He just became an infection at this point.
Dude his durability cannot scale he didn’t completely fuse with the hypertimeline.
If the problem is that he didn't fuse with a big enough part to obtain that dura it's fine. But if his range extends that much then he can assimilate that much area. That comes from his immortality though. His ap has no involvement and that's why it shouldn't scale.

In his case, there's a reason, even normal Zamasu's durability scaled far above his AP cuz of his wish


His profile isn't supposed to say that, it could easily be fixed, his AP isn't scaling
Literally this. Zamasu has a whole ass wish and you claim his dura should scale to ap because everyone'e else does? Well noone else is like Zamasu...
 
Or it can be something like

Durability 2c, but needs at least 1c range to defeat based on his size. Assuming this allows a tier 2 xters to interact with a 5d space, because that's the key, they need to interact with a 5d space over a a low 1v range to kill him

Because it seems people see durability and think it's the same as tanking low 1c attacks
 
Clover that's not the problem. His Ap of course wouldn't scale. It's the dura that is the problem since Zamasu has that range via extending his very being and making the structure part of himself. We saw he was about to enter the main timeline before he was puffed out of existence.


He would never get low 1-c ap. Nothing supports that. He would be a reverse glass canon. His dura would be much higher than his ap which would be even lower than fused Zamasu's.
by that the entirety of his AP justification will need to change then
 
I think IZ should just scale to Merged Zamasu AP wise just with the Low 1-C range
Yeah of course his ap doesn't scale with his size. He wasn't shown getting stronger. If anything he was weaker when compared to fused Zamasu. No idea why his ap would even scale with existence. We had no inkling of his power increasing. Just his size and how difficult it would be to put him down.

Like the dude made a specific wish to the super dragon balls. And it wasn't make me kick ass. Even before Black was the stronger one with Immortal Zamasu being a glorified punching bag.

For the durability part. He can't get it due to not affecting a significant area? I'm okay either way. Ok low 1-C for range it is. I have cleared up the misunderstanding for Low 1-C dura. His feats only suffice for range because he didn't spread enough.
 
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Just to be clear when I said his durability scaled, I meant that since low 1c range would be needed to kill him, it would count as durability, not that he could tank low 1c attacks (assuming they have the range and interactions necessary)
 
Deagon didn't even disagree with range only, or ddm, i think it was moreso of zamasu merging with the entire hypertimeline, can they update their stance?
 
I just wake up from my sleep, and i must say, this debate is bad

1. No IZ have no proof merging with timeline

2. Have Durablity but not AP, seriously??, his AP and Durability tied to his Size, if he is a Low 1-C structure, he is Low 1-C in everything

3. Low 1-C range??, no not, it is 5D interdimensional range, why?? IZ existence is he merging with structure, Low 1-C range implied his entire body cover the entire Low 1-C range, thus himself will be Low 1-C being and having such stats. 5D interdimensional range mean he can reach through dimension, up to 5D level which exactly what he did, he breach himself into another timeline but did not merge with the timeline he came from. Also there is a whole staff thread to separate range like this iirc
 
As it is common knowledge that character would have range in insignificant 5D by doing a multiverse stuff
I agree with low 1-C range or interdimensional range as Vietthai stated. IIRC DT did say interdimensional range on 5D or higher works if its not affecting an entire structure and just specific areas of such dimensions
 
Hmm, it's true that rating doesn't work beyond Tier 2. Though as the issue is of Zamasu possibly spreading across 5D distances without first covering the entirty of the first structure it doesn't feel like full Low Complex Multiversal works either.
 
Hmm, it's true that rating doesn't work beyond Tier 2. Though as the issue is of Zamasu possibly spreading across 5D distances without first covering the entirty of the first structure it doesn't feel like full Low Complex Multiversal works either.
I mean, isn't reaching throughout 5 Dimensional timelines enough? Even if it's not the entire timeline?
 
Their is the issue that the wording of Interdimensional range currently isn't suitable for being used on greater than Tier 2 distances.

Well I guess it does cross from one Universe 7 to another Universe 7, but that's clearly a technicality that we shouldn't rely on.
 
Their is the issue that the wording of Interdimensional range currently isn't suitable for being used on greater than Tier 2 distances.

Well I guess it does cross from one Universe 7 to another Universe 7, but that's clearly a technicality that we shouldn't rely on.
That's perhaps something that could be discussed in a staff thread. I remember there being a thread debating difference between interdimensional and Low Multiversal and above ranges. And obviously, Multiversal and Multiversal+ involve being able to effect all those timelines at the same time. Interdimensional is simply being able to reach them. As for Tier 1 and above, not sure how we discussed those or simply reaching places outside a Low 1-C realm or reaching a place in a different Low 1-C realm.
 
That's perhaps something that could be discussed in a staff thread. I remember there being a thread debating difference between interdimensional and Low Multiversal and above ranges. And obviously, Multiversal and Multiversal+ involve being able to effect all those timelines at the same time. Interdimensional is simply being able to reach them. As for Tier 1 and above, not sure how we discussed those or simply reaching places outside a Low 1-C realm or reaching a place in a different Low 1-C realm.
Iirc, @KLOL506 said there is a staff thread @Antvasima want to specific these kind of range, interdimensional thing, etc.....i also planned my own thread before regarding interdimensional range will cover character that capable of reaching higher dimensional but not full cover the entire structure, and since we have ability like portal creation, teleportation and dimensional travel which isn't ability that can cover the entire structure at all
 
I'm not sure this fits what zamasu did, does it?
Yes it is, in fact there are verse that i know did this kind of thing, such as Honkai Impact 3rd, characters in the verse can't even cover the entire universe, but they can reach to 11D realm via ability, but also not fully cover entirety of said realm
 
Yes it is, in fact there are verse that i know did this kind of thing, such as Honkai Impact 3rd, characters in the verse can't even cover the entire universe, but they can reach to 11D realm via ability, but also not fully cover entirety of said realm
what method
 
They can cut space to reach to the realm, or create portal shit to travel back and forth. But anyway it is just an example
Portals? Eh, I feel like it's different for zamasu since he basically just extended to the present timeline. Maybe if standards get changed that would be the case. And like i feel like the portals should also have low 1-C range.
 
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