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The initial five include Future Trunks's world, and the later six include the current timeline, after Zamasu was erased in the present due to Trunks's interference.From what I saw at the beginning of zamasu's arc there were 5 timerings, and at the end there were 6 timerings.
If we assume that zeno erased the timeline bc zamasu merged, is the amount correct? I don't remember xd
In the anime was the time ring seen to disappear when Zeno erased Zamasu?
-5 time rings.The initial five include Future Trunks's world, and the later six include the current timeline, after Zamasu was erased in the present due to Trunks's interference.
Staff voted for range only, so we’re waiting for grace at this point.why are we discussing time rings
Trunks and Mai hadn't used the Time Machine yet.
Sounds kind of irrelevant. His influence still travelled past the limits of a 5D timeline to another whole 5D timeline, which is something much higher than what your average interdimensional range is capable of achieving. Imagine this like a curtain and a bullet, a curtain could reach as far as it extends and everything that it covers. This does not disqualify the bullet reaching further just because it flies in a straight line.3. Low 1-C range??, no not, it is 5D interdimensional range, why?? IZ existence is he merging with structure, Low 1-C range implied his entire body cover the entire Low 1-C range, thus himself will be Low 1-C being and having such stats. 5D interdimensional range mean he can reach through dimension, up to 5D level which exactly what he did, he breach himself into another timeline but did not merge with the timeline he came from. Also there is a whole staff thread to separate range like this iirc
I see myself agreeing with Magic on this one.Sounds kind of irrelevant. His influence still travelled past the limits of a 5D timeline to another whole 5D timeline, which is something much higher than what your average interdimensional range is capable of achieving. Imagine this like a curtain and a bullet, a curtain could reach as far as it extends and everything that it covers. This does not disqualify the bullet reaching further just because it flies in a straight line.
The fact that IZ didn't cover the entirety of a 5-D timeline isn't mutually exclusive to the farthest observed range of his influence, across different 5-D timelines, beyond limits of the entirety of one such structure.
This is much more straightforward 5-D range than this comment makes it appear to be.
AP is out of it entirelyNot sure about Zamasu scaling to Low 1-C AP but I definitely agree with him having Low 1-C range by being able to reach other timelines.
1. IZ rating based entirely on his state of existence, as he fuse with space-time, realm, dimension. Having Low 1-C range implying he capable of fully cover the entirety of Low 1-C structure, and he fuse with space-time that mean it implying he merging capable of covering the entire hypertimeline, which in turn mean he is Low 1-C sized being. Range fully scale to tier except Interdimensional rangeSounds kind of irrelevant. His influence still travelled past the limits of a 5D timeline to another whole 5D timeline, which is something much higher than what your average interdimensional range is capable of achieving. Imagine this like a curtain and a bullet, a curtain could reach as far as it extends and everything that it covers. This does not disqualify the bullet reaching further just because it flies in a straight line.
The fact that IZ didn't cover the entirety of a 5-D timeline isn't mutually exclusive to the farthest observed range of his influence, across different 5-D timelines, beyond limits of the entirety of one such structure.
This is much more straightforward 5-D range than this comment makes it appear to be.
Once more, I'd like to call your attention to the analogy that I have just made. There are two very different ways that a character (or anything in life, for what it's worth) can display range. You are acting as though the only way to obtain a range is to cover everything in a given radius first, and then start expanding from there.1. IZ rating based entirely on his state of existence, as he fuse with space-time, realm, dimension. Having Low 1-C range implying he capable of fully cover the entirety of Low 1-C structure, and he fuse with space-time that mean it implying he merging capable of covering the entire hypertimeline, which in turn mean he is Low 1-C sized being. Range fully scale to tier except Interdimensional range
2. Like i said above Low 1-C range mean cover the entire structure and you said IZ has Low 1-C range, yet you said he can only breach to other hypertimeline, aren't you contradict youself??
They were creating the timeline by traveling back in time to the past of their world.Iirc Whis should’ve already created their timeline.
Didn't Whis create the new timeline that he relocated the couple to?They were creating the timeline by traveling back in time to the past of their world.
The reply I made before this one already refutes everything here, but I'll answer you for courtesy's sake.Again, are you even understand what i said???, IZ isn't a 3D guy with higher D power or firing any "bullet", his existence is what give him the rating and he constantly fusing with dimension, having low 1-c range implying he can fuse with the entire structure, simple, you making a false equipvalent, he isn't Goku who is a 3D character but can fire a ki blast up to 5-dimensional realm
Didn't Whis create the new timeline that he relocated the couple to?
This was discussed earlier, but this range only works for tier 2, not tier 1 on the wikiThinking on it, if he doesn't fully affect the the other timeline then it should just be Interdimensional range. It being across the 5th dimensional axis doesn't really change this since its ultimately just another direction, which can be specified on the profile I guess.
Wouldn't that mean he can affect five dimensions though? Or did you mean that?Thinking on it, if he doesn't fully affect the the other timeline then it should just be Interdimensional range. It being across the 5th dimensional axis doesn't really change this since its ultimately just another direction, which can be specified on the profile I guess.
Which fits Zamasu perfectly.Low Complex Multiversal: Attacks and abilities that are able to reach throughout 5-dimensional to 6-dimensional space.
He verifiable can't affect a whole Low 1-C structure, which is the point.Wouldn't that mean he can affect five dimensions though? Or did you mean that?
That's literally the concept of the range though:
Which fits Zamasu perfectly.
It's less that he can't and more he didn't have time to actually move through it. He can still move outside the timeline and cross to others.He verifiable can't affect a whole Low 1-C structure, which is the point.
I'm surprised the Range page hasn't been updated to reflect that, I could've sworn that'd have already been implemented.
Zamasu's case isn't that arcane or weird, it just has to be pointed out properly.
The range page isn't just for being able to move across an axis though. I can throw a punch in any of 3 axes of movement, it doesn't mean I have Universal or High Universal range.It's less that he can't and more he didn't have time to actually move through it. He can still move outside the timeline and cross to others.
You know that does make sense. But how is someone that can move through 5D space but can't affect all of it tiered?The range page isn't just for being able to move across an axis though. I can throw a punch in any of 3 axes of movement, it doesn't mean I have Universal or High Universal range.
It's just Interdimensional, like I said + a mention of him being able to move across 5 dimensions of space or whatever.You know that does make sense. But how is someone that can move through 5D space but can't affect all of it tiered?
His current Low Multiversal range is because he merged with U7 which consist of multiple space-time continuumAlso currently Zamasu has Low Multiversal listed on his range from being able to spread his influence to other timelines.
How far did Zamasu reach is what matters here. Not how much of that farther distance he was able to cover at once. This is range yet his range is being treated the same way DC and AP are, by that logic.Range is a measurement that refers to how far that the attacks or abilities of a certain character, weapon, or otherwise, can efficiently reach on their/its own.
Well I do think the Infinite Zamasu is going to ended up fusing with all the 12 universes eventually, maybe even the whole timeline. Due to the kill all mortals and be the only one god thingy. He never reached that point though. So unless I'm wrong and he immediately fused with the whole timeline Zen'O kinda nuked everything for no reason.When Zeno got spoiled in the past he erased 6 universes. And he thought to erase the 8 lowest rank universes.
He is quite precise with deciding what erasing.
When he sees IZ he straight up decides to erase the entire timeline. Could this be a hint that IZ's was evaluated so great that erasing all 12 universes was the only way? Because he was affecting all others 11 (or at least was about to)?
I second this there is no reason for zeno to erase the entire timeline just caused he fused with u7 at the very least he should have low 1c rangeWhen Zeno got spoiled in the past he erased 6 universes. And he thought to erase the 8 lowest rank universes.
He is quite precise with deciding what erasing.
When he sees IZ he straight up decides to erase the entire timeline. Could this be a hint that IZ's was evaluated so great that erasing all 12 universes was the only way? Because he was affecting all others 11 (or at least was about to)?
And an insignificant 5-dimensional distance isn't Low Complex Multiversal, which is the point. What you're implying would be the same as granting High Universal range for a statement of "He ran to another place".Giving him only interdimensional is very counter-intuitive to what range works like. Definition, straight from the page (and at that, the word itself):
How far did Zamasu reach is what matters here. Not how much of that farther distance he was able to cover at once. This is range yet his range is being treated the same way DC and AP are, by that logic.
I understand it may appears as an "overkill" (IZ fuse with U7, then Zeno blows up all 12 Univ.).I second this there is no reason for zeno to erase the entire timeline just caused he fused with u7 at the very least he should have low 1c range
Planck, the very range page from these here forums states that the attack needs to reach anywhere within. Not the entire place at once.And an insignificant 5-dimensional distance isn't Low Complex Multiversal, which is the point. What you're implying would be the same as granting High Universal range for a statement of "He ran to another place".