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Goku's testing his strength against someone he knows is stronger. He's not playing around for the sake of a good fight. Also, enjoying a good fight against a strong opponent is not nearly the same as letting them purposely reach their full power.
You’re just ignoring what the anime says at this point.

“Martial artists, especially master-level ones, want to fight their enemies after bringing out their full power.”

He’s speaking generally on how Goku goes about fighting, not just Jiren. Idk why you’re the impression Goku doesn’t seek a good fight.
Frieza and Goku have history, but even they transformed pretty soon to fight at full power. Goku Black was not a threat here, and Goku even says he doesn't know what for sort of person GB is.

He's fought every villain that's considered a threat seriously from the start.
Before pulling out their strongest forms Goku and Frieza fought in their base forms for basically half an episode to the point where Vegeta got pissed at Goku for not cutting to the chase and intervened.

Black was explicitly noted to be a threat plaguing Trunks’ future. Goku wouldn’t even have had to be told he was evil, he can sense negative intent.

Also, Saitama isn’t a villain.
 
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if this was a fight in which Saitama was pure evil and needed to die then goku would go MUI and instantly blitz and stomp
But in an in character match, especially sparring, goku has pretty much no win con since after a few minutes he would run out of transformations that could challenge Saitama
 
Things need to be accepted until they can be used. That's how it works. If you are impatient make a CRT and get it done. Unless Maverick Zero wants to bend the rules just for the sake of arguments :OO

If I am wrong, provide me with a statement from the Wiki Rules that it is possible to apply things before they get accepted.
Stop being pedantic. RPL is 100% going to be put on Saitama profile soon, 3-A SSJ Vegeta isn’t.
 
By the way Saitama could copy the kaioken and ultra instinct since it’s just a technique
not important but it’s fun to think about
 
If it's them fighting for fun then Saitama eventually surpasses. If Goku is Serious about taking him down then he probably wins before Saitama can evolve
 
What changes? Thought this was already discussed and we determined Saitama stomps.

Nothing about Son Goku's AD is impressive except his unquantifiable jump from 3-A to Low 2-C which shouldn't even be counted as a feat here.

Saitama evolves and then throws his punch back in time, game over.
 
  • Fight starts out with Stats Equalized, at least until both fighters begin to amp themselves
  • Location: An uninhabited Q-City
  • DBS Anime Goku is used
Round 1: Both are in-character, Goku starts in Base. Both view the fight as a simple sparring match and will employ their standard tactics and mindset

Round 2: Saitama is bloodlusted, Goku starts in Ultra Instinct -Sign- and views Saitama as a threat to the universe.

Round 3: Round 2, but DBS Anime Goku is composited with his manga counterpart.
Goku now has access to his manga abilities and sees Saitama has a major threat to Universe 7 in later rounds
 
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Nothing about Son Goku's AD is impressive except his unquantifiable jump from 3-A to Low 2-C which shouldn't even be counted as a feat here.
Phoenks we all know you are smart enough to realize that unquantifiable / = / unusable. It doesn't need to be quantifiable for us to know it's above Garou's jump.
Just idk, debunk it? You seem pretty good at that.
 
Phoenks we all know you are smart enough to realize that unquantifiable / = / unusable. It doesn't need to be quantifiable for us to know it's above Garou's jump.
Just idk, debunk it? You seem pretty good at that.
What I mean is that it shouldn't be used because it's an outlier among all of his other Accelerated Development feats, including those that happen after that jump.
 
Also, could you provide the feat of going from 3-A to Low 2-C again?
Basically by the start of T.O.P. he's 3-A in Blue. He goes through 2 UI's and post the UI he goes Blue and is able to contest Jiren making him 2-C. (I kinda explained it horribly, maybe someone else should do it.)
 
How exactly does that count towards accelerated development ? To me it just sounds like power ups.
 
Anyway Goku I’m Round 3 is fresh in my head atm. So I’ll focus on that for now

So Bardock went from not being able to scratch Base Gas and taking beating from him… to surpassing Gas’ transformation and beating him up then one shotting him.

Impressive right?
Let me start with the fact that Goku massively upscales from that feat. I’ll talk about more later.
 
Anyway Goku I’m Round 3 is fresh in my head atm. So I’ll focus on that for now

So Bardock went from not being able to scratch Base Gas and taking beating from him… to surpassing Gas’ transformation and beating him up then one shotting him.

Impressive right?
Let me start with the fact that Goku massively upscales from that feat. I’ll talk about more later.
timeframe?
 
low 2-C dbs pisses me off on this site ngl
just thinking that goku got two infinities stronger by doing sit ups and weight lifting is narratively stupid, even more so for broly who was just stranded on some jungle planet
and I don't even believe in time being a dimension I just think infinite zamasu has time manip and that's it
should use a goku 3-A or lower tbh
 
low 2-C dbs pisses me off on this site ngl
just thinking that goku got two infinities stronger by doing sit ups and weight lifting is narratively stupid, even more so for broly who was just stranded on some jungle planet
and I don't even believe in time being a dimension I just think infinite zamasu has time manip and that's it
should use a goku 3-A or lower tbh
cope 😈
 
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