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you mean the arguments you're keeping where they belong, the fun and games sectionThe ones you couldn't debunk on a debating and indexing site? Adorable.
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you mean the arguments you're keeping where they belong, the fun and games sectionThe ones you couldn't debunk on a debating and indexing site? Adorable.
jokes on u he aint high 6-a, atleast we knew he was atleast ______ not stuck on a tierRather be stuck at 4-B than High 6-A
I've yet to see you debunk anything either.you mean the arguments you're keeping where they belong, the fun and games section
and you've yet to make an argumentI've yet to see you debunk anything either.
no diffing the AwkguyDBGoku 10/10 No diffing
It's worse. It's a ''possibly'' rating.jokes on u he aint high 6-a, atleast we knew he was atleast ______ not stuck on a tier
oh yeah, ur talking about regular human to high 6-a when he was just doing pushes, my guy goku is a saiyan, plot armor king, and god luck and still was struggling with building level destruction BoSIt's worse. It's a ''possibly'' rating.
1. Broly would just have better AD (but I think it was just an insane rage amp.)Tbh, I’m leaning towards garou having better AD, since while goku did indeed improve drastically that time, he and vegeta got rolled by broly via AD. plus, I think garou has more consistent showings of AD being super big
Man I really hope general knowledge is one of your good topics.and you've yet to make an argument
one of my worst topics yet i still no diff u in itMan I really hope general knowledge is one of your good topics.
Sounding stupid? Good job. I'm not going to continue further with this discussion. I'm sorry for wrecking your thread, Mav. It's just comments like theseone of my worst topics yet i still no diff u in it
Really piss me off.embarassing existence: BOEGVELD
OkSounding stupid? Good job. I'm not going to continue further with this discussion. I'm sorry for wrecking your thread, Mav. It's just comments like these
OkReally piss me off.
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.Nah
I claim the strength remained, not the divine power. The strength fused with Goku, the godly Ki disappeared.
Edit: I've just seen that the sub confirms my point about Aura disappearing and SSG power remaining inside Goku
Canonically it also says that Goku evolved until he surpassed SSG.Judge it if you want, but that's what (canonically & accepted in the wiki) happened.
Goku's strength growing to 3-A without absorbing SSG power in base is speculation, contradicted by Beerus' explanation and not accepted in the wiki.
Goku didn't reach the limit of the power SSG had to offer until later on the fight. Until that, he was just taking more and more power the transformation had to offer, which again, is not a natural growthHe doesn't have any feats putting him above 4-B prior to growing stronger, so we don't assume he is.
Nothing contradicts him absorbing god power in base. If he absorbs God power, then increases his power more, he's clearly surpassed SSG. Yet it does not mean he had a natural growth from 4-B to 3-A in base.Canonically it also says that Goku evolved until he surpassed SSG.
Check Goku's page AP justification and Absorption explanation, please.The wiki's justification says Goku absorbed SSG but the explanation blog says his SSJ form surpassed SSG.
"It appears your SSG powers did not disappear" "God power fused within your very being". Don't know how that implies something different to Goku fusing SSG power with his base power.Beerus' explanation does not necessarily contrdaict it because it's up to interpretation. And the explanation that Goku absorbed it makes no sense logically.
I've already provided scans that say Goku's latent power is what allowed him to grow stronger.Goku didn't reach the limit of the power SSG had to offer until later on the fight. Until that, he was just taking more and more power the transformation had to offer, which again, is not a natural growth
The contradiction is that he didn't have god ki in base even though he should've absorbed god power into his base.Nothing contradicts him absorbing god power in base. If he absorbs God power, then increases his power more, he's clearly surpassed SSG. Yet it does not mean he had a natural growth from 4-B to 3-A in base.
I am aware. I literally said I was, that is why I brought another source which says otherwise (the explanation blog).Check Goku's page AP justification and Absorption explanation, please.
To me it's seems hyperbolic statement to describe SSJ Goku reaching SSG level."It appears your SSG powers did not disappear" "God power fused within your very being". Don't know how that implies something different to Goku fusing SSG power with his base power.
And, again, what fused with Goku was the strength of SSG: the divine ki/Red aura disappeared (his ki became the one of a mortal), but his strength (3-A AP) remained. That's why he didn't become SSGSS, because he lost his divine ki, which was, in fact, the only thing he lost after the SSG transformation went out
Notice that due to the Many Worlds theory (and the fact that future Garou may not be exactly current Garou), the mecchanics of Dragonball rule of Time and the one of One Punch Man may be more similar to what one may think.Saitama’s AD is a bit more impressive than Goku’s but it fails in terms of mechanics. What I mean is the exponential increase only kicks in due to an “upsurge of emotion” Saitama’s never felt before, this is likely due to him fighting a worthy opponent. Even when Garou copied Saitama’s power the two were throwing hand quite a bit until much later. So Goku and Saitama will definitely duke it out for quite a bit before the emotional surge happens.
Goku’s AD is definitely comparable with Garou’s AD. Before he became a full monster.
Since stats are equalized, Goku’s only chance at winning this fight would be transformations.
This is how I think each round would go:
Round 1: Goku Wins. As both are in-character, both will most certainly hold back. Goku will stall to see what Saitama is made of. This will cause Saitama to put a considerable amount of effort in the fight but I doubt he’ll try too hard. Goku only lets his habit of drawing out his opponent’s full power for so long and then eventually he’ll start competing a little seriously since he does have the desire to win. The minute Goku turns into a Super Saiyan and gain that 50x multiplier in all his stats is when I believe he will defeat Saitama. If not as a Super Saiyan, then the other higher SSJ transformations will do. Don’t think he’ll turn into a god as that indicates Goku is going serious. It’s a simple sparring match.
Round 2: It depends, lots of factors. Does the setting function off of Dragon Ball’s rule of time or One Punch Man’s rule of time? If we’re going by One Punch Man’s rule of time then Saitama Wins easy. He goes back in time and kills Kid Goku in the beginning of the fight or something. If we’re going off Dragon Ball’s rule of time then Saitama will still succeed in killing Goku in the past, but present Goku won’t die, since it will just create a new timeline. I’d say it will be inconclusive since I don’t think Saitama will realize that he didn’t really succeed in killing present Goku, but if he decides to travel back to his timeline then we’ll actually see a fight between them both. I see Goku winning this. Stats would no longer be equalized if Goku starts with UI Sign. Even if Saitama decides to copy Goku’s ultra instinct, Saitama lacks the divine training to maintain the form for very long. When he reaches his limit. Saitama won’t be able to fight anymore and Goku kills him with a Kamehameha.
Round 3: Same scenario with round 2.