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Infinite potential: Saitama vs Goku

BOEGVELD said:
1. From the episode Goku got one-shot to the episode he withstood a stronger Jiren's attacks in Base.
2. Neither of them have a feat of growing a thousand times stronger within that timeframe though.
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Jiren beating the shit out of goku doesn’t really mean much, since blue goku was able to withstand a beat down from Jiren and then once he goes kaioken x20 blue he gets one tapped by a goddamn glare
and then he just stares away a blue kkx20 spirit bomb
I wouldn’t say Jiren is very reliable when it comes to scaling like this, considering he’s then able to match a UI 3 goku without going full power still
 
BOEGVELD said:
1. From the episode Goku got one-shot to the episode he withstood a stronger Jiren's attacks in Base.
2. Neither of them have a feat of growing a thousand times stronger within that timeframe though.
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1. That's assuming the timeframes are linear. Which isn't correct by any means.
2. Yeah I'm not adept on Saitama nor Garou so I can't argue this but the people arguing for Saitama seem to disagree.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
Jiren beating the shit out of goku doesn’t really mean much, since blue goku was able to withstand a beat down from Jiren and then once he goes kaioken x20 blue he gets one tapped by a goddamn glare
and then he just stares away a blue kkx20 spirit bomb
I wouldn’t say Jiren is very reliable when it comes to scaling like this, considering he’s then able to match a UI 3 goku without going full power still
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He's just continuously increasing his power. Which kinda makes Base Goku's feat more impressive and a thousand time increase a very modest result.
 
DivineAura44 said:
1. That's assuming the timeframes are linear. Which isn't correct by any means.
2. Yeah I'm not adept on Saitama nor Garou so I can't argue this but the people arguing for Saitama seem to disagree.
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1. I used the time that was left til the end of the tournament from both episodes. Not the literal lenght of the episodes.
2. Fair enough. I'm fully caught up but don't know where the disagreements come from lol.
 
BOEGVELD said:
1. I used the time that was left til the end of the tournament from both episodes. Not the literal lenght of the episodes.
2. Fair enough. I'm fully caught up but don't know where the disagreements come from lol.
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Oh, I thought you were scaling every episode and thinking of them proportionally, never mind then.
 
Funny how we are debating 1000x jumps for Goku when even base Monster Garou had far superior jumps lol.
 
DivineAura44 said:
Exactly my point. I think we should just focus on the 3-A to Low 2-C jump personally. (As it stands, Saitama isn't touching that ever.)
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it's also a complete outlier for his AD since he supposedly jumped 2 levels of infinity higher doing nothing special and then was unable to even get infinitely stronger after breaking his limits three times over just getting his ass kicked by jiren
 
ZillertheBucko said:
it's also a complete outlier for his AD since he supposedly jumped 2 levels of infinity higher doing nothing special and then was unable to even get infinitely stronger after breaking his limits three times over just getting his ass kicked by jiren
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I already explained why it's not an outlier. Stop being a nerd. There is literally no other point in the series which would warrant a jump like that.
 
Yeah, using tiers. But we've already established Goku has better AD feats in that departement as well. With or without tiers, Goku has better AD feats regardless. Why's this still a debate?
 
BOEGVELD said:
Yeah, using tiers. But we've already established Goku has better AD feats in that departement as well. With or without tiers, Goku has better AD feats regardless. Why's this still a debate?
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you've literally established nothing of value and have been using sourceless multipliers and your own headcanon, and you were probably really hoping we'd forget you did that by now somehow
congrats
 
ZillertheBucko said:
you've literally established nothing of value and have been using sourceless multipliers and your own headcanon, and you were probably really hoping we'd forget you did that by now somehow
congrats
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So give me a better AD feat from Saitama than Goku going from 3-A to Low 2-C.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
when exactly did you explain this?
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As I stated last page, Goku jumps to match his opponent. Jiren was the only opponent were he would have to make that jump and so he did. Literally no one else in the series is that far ahead of him tiering wise so he wouldn't need to jump that much anymore.
 
DivineAura44 said:
As I stated last page, Goku jumps to match his opponent. Jiren was the only opponent were he would have to make that jump and so he did. Literally no one else in the series is that far ahead of him tiering wise so he wouldn't need to jump that much anymore.
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oh that
well first of all goku jumping to match his opponent.... that's dumb as ****
of course he's never had any such instance of that in dragon ball, and certainly he wasn't able to do it against Jiren since he jumped MULTIPLE TIMES and couldn't match Jiren
and obviously he was never able to match beerus in any of his fights with him.
but yknow what, let's just say that goku can just fight someone 2-A and instantly become 2-A because clearly, CLEARLY he has always matched his opponent via AD, and I'm sure you have plenty of statements to confirm this non-headcanon factual information that is definitely accepted by the wiki completely
 
BOEGVELD said:
I.e. there's none. So we've established Goku's AD feat is greater than Saitama's then, right? Lol.
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jesus christ dude how hard is it for you to understand that goku being able to go infinitely higher with just AD is literally never gonna happen, and that it's just you bringing up an instance of an infinite^2 power jump that was never acknowledged by the plot in any way and never happens again
you just have this dumbass headcanon that goku can instantly match the opponent's strength when that's never shown or implied or stated or anything, and is just demonstrably ******* false and you can't ******* wake up to reality
there's a reason this bullshit is never getting accepted, nobody here is gonna let you make a thread of goku fighting xeno goku or some shit because "he can instantly match power!!!!!!" NO
stop
 
ZillertheBucko said:
how hard is it for you to understand that goku being able to go infinitely higher with just AD is literally never gonna happen
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He pretty much did via going from 3-A to Low 2-C lol.

ZillertheBucko said:
you just have this dumbass headcanon that goku can instantly match the opponent's strength when that's never shown or implied or stated or anything, and is just demonstrably ******* false and you can't ******* wake up to reality
there's a reason this bullshit is never getting accepted, nobody here is gonna let you make a thread of goku fighting xeno goku or some shit because "he can instantly match power!!!!!!"
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Yeah, I never said any of this. Weird strawman.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
oh that
well first of all goku jumping to match his opponent.... that's dumb as ****
of course he's never had any such instance of that in dragon ball, and certainly he wasn't able to do it against Jiren since he jumped MULTIPLE TIMES and couldn't match Jiren
and obviously he was never able to match beerus in any of his fights with him.
but yknow what, let's just say that goku can just fight someone 2-A and instantly become 2-A because clearly, CLEARLY he has always matched his opponent via AD, and I'm sure you have plenty of statements to confirm this non-headcanon factual information that is definitely accepted by the wiki completely
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1. He did match Jiren, have we watched the same series?
2. He absorbed God into base for this exact reason.
3. That's a greater strawman than Scarecrow.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
jesus christ dude how hard is it for you to understand that goku being able to go infinitely higher with just AD is literally never gonna happen, and that it's just you bringing up an instance of an infinite^2 power jump that was never acknowledged by the plot in any way and never happens again
you just have this dumbass headcanon that goku can instantly match the opponent's strength when that's never shown or implied or stated or anything, and is just demonstrably ******* false and you can't ******* wake up to reality
there's a reason this bullshit is never getting accepted, nobody here is gonna let you make a thread of goku fighting xeno goku or some shit because "he can instantly match power!!!!!!" NO
stop
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Bro it's an F&G, chill out.
 
BOEGVELD said:
He pretty much did via going from 3-A to Low 2-C lol.
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WHICH IS AN OUTLIER BECAUSE HE HAS STRUGGLED TO OVERCOME FAR LESSER GAPS
IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS ******* HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOKU'S BASE CAN'T JUST GROW 2 INFINITIES STRONGER WHEN IT HAS LITERALLY BEEN REJECTED BY THE WIKI THAT THE MULTIPLIER FOR BLUE FROM 3-A TO LOW 2-C IS EVEN INFINITE

THE WIKI DOESN'T EVEN ACCEPT ANY OF THIS BULLSHIT
 
DivineAura44 said:
Bro it's an F&G, chill out.
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because you know for certain that this is the only place where people are gonna let this fly
I'd very much encourage you to take this to the content revision section, just to see what happens when you tell them that goku has infinite^2 reactive evolution
 
ZillertheBucko said:
WHICH IS AN OUTLIER BECAUSE HE HAS STRUGGLED TO OVERCOME FAR LESSER GAPS
IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS ******* HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOKU'S BASE CAN'T JUST GROW 2 INFINITIES STRONGER WHEN IT HAS LITERALLY BEEN REJECTED BY THE WIKI THAT THE MULTIPLIER FOR BLUE FROM 3-A TO LOW 2-C IS EVEN INFINITE

THE WIKI DOESN'T EVEN ACCEPT ANY OF THIS BULLSHIT
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Once again it's an F&G Thread. Chill out.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
because you know for certain that this is the only place where people are gonna let this fly
I'd very much encourage you to take this to the content revision section, just to see what happens when you tell them that goku has infinite^2 reactive evolution
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No because I didn't make the thread idiot.
 
jiren casually flexing his butt cheeks already made the boys who saw infinite zamasu's wrath think Jiren is the biggest deal they ever faced off. Goku is just that chad and saiyans potential is limitless afterall
 
DivineAura44 said:
No because I didn't make the thread idiot.
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it doesn't really matter who made it, since you're hellbent on saying that goku has infinite accelerated development and if a character is 300 trillion to the trillionth power of the trillionth power times stronger than him he'll just adapt and overcome because he always matches his opponents (still not accepted by the wiki)
 
ZillertheBucko said:
it doesn't really matter who made it, since you're hellbent on saying that goku has infinite accelerated development and if a character is 300 trillion to the trillionth power of the trillionth power times stronger than him he'll just adapt and overcome because he always matches his opponents (still not accepted by the wiki)
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Once again, that's a strawman. Find a different way to cope.
 
DivineAura44 said:
Once again, that's a strawman. Find a different way to cope.
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ok so you're saying that goku isn't capable of doing infinite AD
in other words he's not capable of going to 3-A to high 3-A, or from high 3-A to low 2-C
especially not 3-A to low 2-C, since that's 2 infinite dimensions higher in AP
 
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