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58 times multipliers over the course of a single fight, (tho moments later it easily would have gotten into the hundreds due to it being exponential)
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Infinite potential: Saitama vs Goku
- Thread starter Maverick_Zero_X
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Isn't there two multipliers? Because doesn't the first page of the graph become the bottom/"zero" value on the second page of the graph? Since this is an exponential thing, after all.
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the graph never reaches 0 in any of the panels of it
SirAlex09
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One question..since you are doing the CRT for Saitama...Can't we use the graph to upgrade him to 3A if we use 4A as a starting point of the graph and use it to scale the square length on the graph to determine his actual increase in the fight?
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Not 3-A, but 3-C is a possibility that will be determined in the near future based on that.
Personally, I have no issue with it. Whether or not it will be accepted, I have no idea.
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vs match wise, 3-A would indeed be possible
but it won't go on the profile since it's not really worth noting past "his limiter is broken, and he can AD"
but it won't go on the profile since it's not really worth noting past "his limiter is broken, and he can AD"
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oh so you're on team 3-C as well
well, it would help to have someone with the big yellow rectangle advocating for it...
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Wasn't this closed? or was it some other thread...
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He has the potential to reach 3-A, yes, but only in very specific circumstances. Basically, his AD has no limits.
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if his mimicry works like garou he could technically reach 3-A instantly by copying
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So now he can copy that?
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Ignoring the multiple interruptions from the dragon and the NamekIan dude, the fight wasn’t long. Like a couple of minutes.
Goku upscales massively because he surpassed a far more superior Gas in seconds. Vegeta says Goku’s UI had not changed in power since, so Goku figured out that his Sayian AD won’t work with MUI because it requires Goku to stay totally calm and Sayian get stronger via their emotions. Goku meditated transformed to UI sign (the level below MUI) and he barely surpassed Gas in seconds. After meditating, UI sign allowed Goku to somehow activate his Sayian AD physiology.
Goku went from not being able to harm Base Gas with his strongest transformation… to surpassing his strongest transformation with a level below his strongest transformation in mere seconds.
Later on in the fight Gas grew even far more powerful which made Goku struggle, however thanks to the amount of power Goku got, he used a stronger MUI to easily restrain Gas and throw him in the air… allowing someone else to take care of him.
so MUI Goku went from not being able to hurt base Gas to completely restraining and sent flying a far more powerful gas with a superior MUI.
DivineAura44
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Pixelscaled from an unquantifiable graph, right? But nothing regarding official increases.
Though that's nowhere near Goku's AD feats regardless.
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It’s a very quantifiable graph, otherwise the calc wouldn’t have even been possible. Basic math tells us that regardless of what x is, multiplying x by 2 will be 2x so the fact that the units are unknown is irrelevant for a multiplier. But since you’re sitting here asserting that goku has superior AD to Saitama I’m assuming you don’t know that math
And it’s more than that, since Saitama’s is exponential it would literally just surpass Goku’s regardless of how fast his goes. Within minutes he could easily be 1000 times stronger than he was at the start of the fight
DivineAura44
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And it still would pale in comparison to a 3-A to Low 2-C jump...
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I don't see any way Goku is having far superior AD without using the iffy 3-A to Low 2-C stuff.
Saitama's growth is so fast that it grows exponentially beyond someone who is actively copying his power and developing exponentially past it at the same time.
Saitama's growth is so fast that it grows exponentially beyond someone who is actively copying his power and developing exponentially past it at the same time.
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Your explanation of this jump didn't make much sense to me. Could you try it again?
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You guys are gonna be so sad once we get low 2-C battle of gods
DivineAura44
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Goku was 4-B by the start of it...
DivineAura44
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Goku was 3-A in Blue by the start of the tournament. After maybe 3/4 through the tournament (rough estimate) he's Low 2-C in Blue through contesting Jiren.
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good Point
3-A broly movie characters it is then
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Thats actually gonna be a thing?
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Nah
like I said I don’t even agree with low 2-C infinite zamasu in spite of arguing in favor of it a while back
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Assuming they can be multiplied. Not every graph works that way.
Base Goku growing stronger than his SSB Kaioken counterpart is another one. You could get that to at least a 400.000 times increase within minutes via official multipliers. Though not all are accepted on this site.
DivineAura44
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The accepted multipliers are 1,000. Might as well drop that.
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Goku would’ve had to grown stronger than that in base
and not over the course of a day or something
DivineAura44
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He did, and it was over the course of the tournament.
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Assuming the Garou fight took 24 minutes
By the end of the tournament of power Saitama would have gotten over 3,000 times stronger
By the end of the tournament of power Saitama would have gotten over 3,000 times stronger
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His transformations don’t grow per say, they’re fixed multipliers. His base is what grows with his transformation.
Evident in the fact that base Goku has far better feats in the end of the tournament than the beginning.
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I am aware
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Okidokie
Hard to keep track here.
I’m more focused on R3 since it’s the freshest in my head
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How else would Base Goku obtain this power? Lol. And this happened within minutes in the ToP.
That doesn't really change what I said.
DivineAura44
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1,000/48 minutes probably isn't that impressive of a multiplier.
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It actually happened in 18 minutes at most. But I'm curious as to how that wouldn't be impressive. How many shonen characters do you know that can multiply their strength a thousandfold within minutes?
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Technically Saitama could get a billion times stronger in a nanosecond if the fight goes on for like days
DivineAura44
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1. Where'd you get 18 from?
2. I mean in comparison to Saitama and Garou.
DivineAura44
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Crazy how Goku's AD dwarfs that.
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