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58 times multipliers over the course of a single fight, (tho moments later it easily would have gotten into the hundreds due to it being exponential)
Isn't there two multipliers? Because doesn't the first page of the graph become the bottom/"zero" value on the second page of the graph? Since this is an exponential thing, after all.
 
Isn't there two multipliers? Because doesn't the first page of the graph become the bottom/"zero" value on the second page of the graph? Since this is an exponential thing, after all.
One question..since you are doing the CRT for Saitama...Can't we use the graph to upgrade him to 3A if we use 4A as a starting point of the graph and use it to scale the square length on the graph to determine his actual increase in the fight?
 
One question..since you are doing the CRT for Saitama...Can't we use the graph to upgrade him to 3A if we use 4A as a starting point of the graph and use it to scale the square length on the graph to determine his actual increase in the fight?
Not 3-A, but 3-C is a possibility that will be determined in the near future based on that.

Personally, I have no issue with it. Whether or not it will be accepted, I have no idea.
 
vs match wise, 3-A would indeed be possible
but it won't go on the profile since it's not really worth noting past "his limiter is broken, and he can AD"
 
Not 3-A, but 3-C is a possibility that will be determined in the near future based on that.

Personally, I have no issue with it. Whether or not it will be accepted, I have no idea.
oh so you're on team 3-C as well
well, it would help to have someone with the big yellow rectangle advocating for it...
 
I don't think current Saitama is reaching those 3-A levels of strength even in a vs match just yet (unless the match takes an eternity now). Maybe in the future though.
 
I don't think current Saitama is reaching those 3-A levels of strength even in a vs match just yet (unless the match takes an eternity now). Maybe in the future though.
He has the potential to reach 3-A, yes, but only in very specific circumstances. Basically, his AD has no limits.
 
timeframe?
Ignoring the multiple interruptions from the dragon and the NamekIan dude, the fight wasn’t long. Like a couple of minutes.

Goku upscales massively because he surpassed a far more superior Gas in seconds. Vegeta says Goku’s UI had not changed in power since, so Goku figured out that his Sayian AD won’t work with MUI because it requires Goku to stay totally calm and Sayian get stronger via their emotions. Goku meditated transformed to UI sign (the level below MUI) and he barely surpassed Gas in seconds. After meditating, UI sign allowed Goku to somehow activate his Sayian AD physiology.

Goku went from not being able to harm Base Gas with his strongest transformation… to surpassing his strongest transformation with a level below his strongest transformation in mere seconds.

Later on in the fight Gas grew even far more powerful which made Goku struggle, however thanks to the amount of power Goku got, he used a stronger MUI to easily restrain Gas and throw him in the air… allowing someone else to take care of him.

so MUI Goku went from not being able to hurt base Gas to completely restraining and sent flying a far more powerful gas with a superior MUI.
 
Ignoring the multiple interruptions from the dragon and the NamekIan dude, the fight wasn’t long. Like a couple of minutes.

Goku upscales massively because he surpassed a far more superior Gas in seconds. Vegeta says Goku’s UI had not changed in power since, so Goku figured out that his Sayian AD won’t work with MUI because it requires Goku to stay totally calm and Sayian get stronger via their emotions. Goku meditated transformed to UI sign (the level below MUI) and he barely surpassed Gas in seconds. After meditating, UI sign allowed Goku to somehow activate his Sayian AD physiology.

Goku went from not being able to harm Base Gas with his strongest transformation… to surpassing his strongest transformation with a level below his strongest transformation in mere seconds.

Later on in the fight Gas grew even far more powerful which made Goku struggle, however thanks to the amount of power Goku got, he used a stronger MUI to easily restrain Gas and throw him in the air… allowing someone else to take care of him.

so MUI Goku went from not being able to hurt base Gas to completely restraining and sent flying a far more powerful gas with a superior MUI.
He went from train level to hill level.
 
Pixelscaled from an unquantifiable graph, right? But nothing regarding official increases.

Though that's nowhere near Goku's AD feats regardless.
It’s a very quantifiable graph, otherwise the calc wouldn’t have even been possible. Basic math tells us that regardless of what x is, multiplying x by 2 will be 2x so the fact that the units are unknown is irrelevant for a multiplier. But since you’re sitting here asserting that goku has superior AD to Saitama I’m assuming you don’t know that math
And it’s more than that, since Saitama’s is exponential it would literally just surpass Goku’s regardless of how fast his goes. Within minutes he could easily be 1000 times stronger than he was at the start of the fight
 
It’s a very quantifiable graph, otherwise the calc wouldn’t have even been possible. Basic math tells us that regardless of what x is, multiplying x by 2 will be 2x so the fact that the units are unknown is irrelevant for a multiplier. But since you’re sitting here asserting that goku has superior AD to Saitama I’m assuming you don’t know that math
And it’s more than that, since Saitama’s is exponential it would literally just surpass Goku’s regardless of how fast his goes. Within minutes he could easily be 1000 times stronger than he was at the start of the fight
And it still would pale in comparison to a 3-A to Low 2-C jump...
 
I don't see any way Goku is having far superior AD without using the iffy 3-A to Low 2-C stuff.

Saitama's growth is so fast that it grows exponentially beyond someone who is actively copying his power and developing exponentially past it at the same time.
 
Your explanation of this jump didn't make much sense to me. Could you try it again?
Goku was 3-A in Blue by the start of the tournament. After maybe 3/4 through the tournament (rough estimate) he's Low 2-C in Blue through contesting Jiren.
 
Basic math tells us that regardless of what x is, multiplying x by 2 will be 2x
Assuming they can be multiplied. Not every graph works that way.

I don't see any way Goku is having far superior AD without using the iffy 3-A to Low 2-C stuff.
Base Goku growing stronger than his SSB Kaioken counterpart is another one. You could get that to at least a 400.000 times increase within minutes via official multipliers. Though not all are accepted on this site.
 
Assuming they can be multiplied. Not every graph works that way.


Base Goku growing stronger than his SSB Kaioken counterpart is another one. You could get that to at least a 400.000 times increase within minutes via official multipliers. Though not all are accepted on this site.
The accepted multipliers are 1,000. Might as well drop that.
 
Assuming they can be multiplied. Not every graph works that way.


Base Goku growing stronger than his SSB Kaioken counterpart is another one. You could get that to at least a 400.000 times increase within minutes via official multipliers. Though not all are accepted on this site.
Goku would’ve had to grown stronger than that in base
and not over the course of a day or something
 
Assuming the Garou fight took 24 minutes
By the end of the tournament of power Saitama would have gotten over 3,000 times stronger
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Goku would’ve had to grown stronger than that in base
and not over the course of a day or something
His transformations don’t grow per say, they’re fixed multipliers. His base is what grows with his transformation.

Evident in the fact that base Goku has far better feats in the end of the tournament than the beginning.
 
1,000/48 minutes probably isn't that impressive of a multiplier.
It actually happened in 18 minutes at most. But I'm curious as to how that wouldn't be impressive. How many shonen characters do you know that can multiply their strength a thousandfold within minutes?
 
It actually happened in 18 minutes at most. But I'm curious as to how that wouldn't be impressive. How many shonen characters do you know that can multiply their strength a thousandfold within minutes?
Technically Saitama could get a billion times stronger in a nanosecond if the fight goes on for like days
 
It actually happened in 18 minutes at most. But I'm curious as to how that wouldn't be impressive. How many shonen characters do you know that can multiply their strength a thousandfold within minutes?
1. Where'd you get 18 from?
2. I mean in comparison to Saitama and Garou.
 
1. From the episode Goku got one-shot to the episode he withstood a stronger Jiren's attacks in Base.
2. Neither of them have a feat of growing a thousand times stronger within that timeframe though.
 
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