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I'm doing this verse to get a personal question. Accelerator VS goku( all goku versions in diferent battles)

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but he has good enough resistance and hax

The question is not exactly who wins, but who gets tired first.

because the accelerator defense (resistance) is complex and multversal, and that includes its ability to redirect vector-based attacks.

who would be the first to get bored, accelerator with his redirect skill, or goku trying to hit some attack on him
 
Why the heck would Goku's own punch break his own arm? You punching yourself at max strength right now wouldn't break your own arm even if you were intentionally trying to do so
 
No, it's not. The Shield controls vectors and reverses the attack back to where it came; there's nothing about somehow shattering someone's arm even though the projected amount of energy is nowhere near such.
 
Because the field reflects the vectors at 2x the initial punch. Goku wouldn't be able to not only brace himself for his own force hitting him at 2x the force, but it'd overpower his own durability by abusing and magnifying his own forces behind the punch.
 
As for who gets tired, I guess Accel would and Goku would keep trying to fight until he breaks all his bones in his body. Worst case is he throws himself directly at him and kills himself while Accel picks his ear. Dunno if tired goes into 'bored'.
 
Yea redirection. In general if it's a punch, the vectors in the force of said punch and the vectors in the arm are altered. Thus the arm break or worse.
 
Accelerator doesn't have lightspeed reactions (at the very least they're not on his profile) and even if he did, Goku's so well above that that there's no way you can say speed is a nonfactor.
 
The real cal howard said:
Accelerator doesn't have lightspeed reactions (at the very least they're not on his profile) and even if he did, Goku's so well above that that there's no way you can say speed is a nonfactor.
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I can because he enters the field = calculate vector = dead.

Redirecting 1 vector is extremely simple and speed has never been a factor for Accel nor has it ever been stated to be a weakness in the novels. Now if he gave him 10k vectors above light speed that'd be different, but he's only receiving one. Kinetically in terms of vision he can't keep up but he doesn't have to because Goku kills himself running into the field when Accel passively calcs the 1 vector being thrown at him. His reaction speed /=/ his calc speed. At peak even before Clonoth he should easily have MFTL or higher calculation speed in terms of passive reflect against single vectors. But since you can't quantify calculation speed, it's irrelevant and doesn't matter because, again, canonically it's just not a factor.
 
Goku has extremley high stamina and doesn't get tired for hours. Accelerator is human with only 30 minute battery power in Post and didn't extert himself that much during pre. The wings are questionable and has never really given us a good stamina feat since he never really had to extert himself with them.

So Accelerator would get tired before Goku but on the otherhand Accelerator doesn't need to extert any energy really, he can just stand there and let his reflection do all the work.

Reflection speed isn't even added on his profile, that's just his normal reactions.
 
Is this MUI Goku? The one with a really short time limit that Accekerator can take advantage of by touching him when his limit runs out and he is standing still left in the open?
 
Speed unequal Goku blitzes, IIRC accel can deal with photons not sure where speed irrelevant came from. Anyways isn't Cukarot like a trillion times the speed of light, pretty sure he can cover hundreds of millions of kilometers around the same time sol accel moves an inch ( I know he is rel)
 
I thought I might be wrong but after checking his profile it does say; Since it is bound to his calculation speed, attacks that are significantly faster than light can likely pass through without being effected.
 
Again no he doesn't. Reflection doesn't care about speed. Accelerator can't do anything to Goku physically because Goku would be too fast for him to catch but Goku isn't bypassing reflection, end of. Once Goku punches reflection it will harm him though.
 
Muchacho mrm said:
Goku becomes the 5th Hokage, uses his stand and activates Za Warudo and blitzes accelerator...Holy crap Goku doesn't have that on his profile.
Anyways i'm no longer interested in this match.
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Lmfao, got a good chuckle
 
the problem is the impossibility to fully calculate the speed of reaction and what threshold it has , we can hypothesize that in stopped time (infinite speed) anything pass as the brain is not active to calculate, but we do know that without the support of the calculation device he can still reflect light and some other harmful particles (ex radiation) and can do so even in his sleep, we can consider accel without calculation support a lvl 0 (so a normal human with minimal change to reality) but when accel has the choker on (support calculations) he basically reaches top lvl 5 calculation power able to calculate multiple vectors at the same time even bypassing limited chaos theory when he had 100% of his calculation power (chaos theory is almost impossible to calculate even with supposed futuristic computers)

in conclusion we 100% know that 1 accel can reflect light speed but can't reach infinite speed so it's somewhere between

i can low ball as we know that the difference between the sister and mikoto is around 1/20000 as they have 1/20000 of the power output (i know power is not exactly equal to calculation but for now we have this) and considering the that: 1) the jump from lvl 0 to 1 is enormous and thing get exponentially more difficult as u progress in lvl instead of being linear we can assume the difference of calculation power are around at least a bunch of units of order bigger and so we can safely assume to be around MFTL+ (already the 1 to 20000 would be enough but that's from lvl 3 to lvl 5 and not lvl 0/1 to lvl 5 and especially accel at lvl 5 has he better calc than mikoto)
 
well not quite but still it would be a really far-fetched number like SOL^ googol , because we do have instance s where superior calc power has been able to beat accel calc power at base (mina a super advanced processor that like 100% accel could surpass chaos theory and capable of calculating the future, or multiple lvl 5 boosted and connected by magic)
 
Akreious said:
No, it's not. The Shield controls vectors and reverses the attack back to where it came; there's nothing about somehow shattering someone's arm even though the projected amount of energy is nowhere near such.
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oh that cause law of mechanics , if there is no resistance (and there isn't as that is reflected too) it just breaks does not matter what it is, same reason why kids got his arm broken when he tried to simply grab him to play or thugs gets their arm broken easily
 
Steamport said:
Which version of Accelerator, though? Pre-headshot, post-headshot, black wings, white wings, or platinum wings?
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I think it's Accel at his strongest, which is platinum wings.
 
Uhhhhhhhh

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I'm pretty sure he's saying speed is irrelevant, not that infinite and immeasurable speed is also irrelevant speed.
 
Speed is irrelevant if he's only calculating simple vectors like a punch or a kick, because that's the most simplest formula passively that requires little to no calculation power. If it were 10k vectors all at FTL then that'd be a lot more different, but a simple punch just has 3 vectors at max to calculate is almost nothing in ability mode, so unless you're:

Infinite speed, Immeasurable, omnipresent, then you aren't getting through on the speed factor based on a simple punch. If Goku spammed danmaku projectiles then that's a different situation.
 
Malox1696 said:
well not quite but still it would be a really far-fetched number like SOL^ googol , because we do have instance s where superior calc power has been able to beat accel calc power at base (mina a super advanced processor that like 100% accel could surpass chaos theory and capable of calculating the future, or multiple lvl 5 boosted and connected by magic)
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Calc power /=/ speed. Getting through the field like how Mina did it is precision, reaction, and physiology based. Speed was not a factor so it's still irrelevant against simple vectors. Mina could calc so high she could basically calculate Destiny, and she gave him too many odd vector variables to calculate and punched through.
 
Accelerate420 said:
Calc power /=/ speed. Getting through the field like how Mina did it is precision, reaction, and physiology based. Speed was not a factor so it's still irrelevant against simple vectors. Mina could calc so high she could basically calculate Destiny, and she gave him too many odd vector variables to calculate and punched through.
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i think u are missing the point , while u are right that vector magnitude does not matter for the ability itself (and so speed) his brain still has to detect it to passively make the calculation, if an attack speed is faster than him making the calculations, subconsciously or consciously, then it would by pass it , but as explained above it would be an enormous number


and btw the attack not only would need to be faster than his calculation speed but either undetectable or from far away that he can't detect it before coming near him and calculate it before entering the field as in that case even thought it would be faster than his calculation speed he would have more time to calculate it before it actually enter his field ( and no invisible attack are not enough, it needs to be an attack that has no interaction with the environment as he can detect it by the interaction with other things)
 
Listentomyrhytm said:
All versions of Goku in different battles? So like, would they come one after the other? Then it would start with the weakest to the strongest.
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