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I dreaded this, but luckily the evidence really will speak more for itself. The proposal of this crt is for Lord Boros to get a "possibly higher" rating indicating he potentially scales above orochi.
I'm going to go from the least strong to most strong point, starting with...
Edit: Points 1 and part of 2 are for the previous version of this crt which was to scale boros above orochi, but we have moved on to tatsumaki instead, so read point 3 and notes 3 and 4 below
1. Boros tanks normal punches that turn orochi into goop.
Okay, so saitama's not a very consistent source of scaling usually, however it is important to note that saitama does start battles with normal punches, and saves his serious ones for opponents that can't be beaten otherwise
more importantly, saitama was clearly a bit surprised by Boros still standing after being hit with that punch, which of course would make no sense if he just happened to throw out a weaker punch that day or something
even more importantly, meteoric burst boros later in the fight still takes another punch that was clearly stronger than the one from the start of the fight.
This alone doesn't prove much, I will admit, but it is a starting point. I think it's fair to bring up that Orochi is consistently being completely obliterated by the punches that saitama throws at the very beginning of his fights, while boros withstands multiple of saitama's normal punches.
In terms of author intent, pre redraw orochi fight makes it even more clear as saitama straight up tells orochi "that was a normal punch" that was able to one shot him, but as we all know, the fight was retconned for unrelated reasons (muh god plot)
2.Saitama sees orochi as weak, and boros as very strong
I know that "he called him strong" is a meme at this point, but this isn't my main argument really, however it is important to give credit where it is due, because saitama really REALLY sees boros as a powerhouse
"he was a hell of a tough guy, probably the toughest I've faced so far"
"now this looks more like a real fight"
"yeah, you are strong"
and he lies about it being a good battle for both of them, but it does show that he gave enough of a **** about Boros to do so, something that he does not even come close to giving to orochi.
More importantly, he sees Orochi as weak, which is the most damning part about this. In the scans given, you can see that Saitama didn't even know orochi was the monster king, and assumed that "monster king orochi" was the name of Ororchi's dad, while he thought the actual orochi was just "the bath monster"
further supported by the fact that Gaia Cannon was seen by saitama as being "splashing in the tub" which is not only insanely disrespectful, but clearly shows a significant level of being unimpressed by Orochi's full power final attack, vs boros who he was already calling strong before he even used meteoric burst.
as for how this would look
"At least high 6-A ([current justification]) possibly far higher (was considered to be strong, tough, and almost a real fight by saitama, while he considered Gaia cannon to be nothing but splashing in a tub"
sound familiar? Of course, that is the exact same logic we use for flashy flash's scaling above geryuganshoop's speed, except even stronger because we have not one, but TWO statements showing saitama most likely thinks Orochi was a weakling. Additionally, there are not one, but FOUR TO FIVE statements of saitama literally ********** the hell out of boros for him being strong.
3. The good shit
this one speaks for itself. Boros....was the strongest in the universe next to saitama, and their fight would determine who was the true strongest
"but Orochi was still eating sacrifices and got stronger" I hear you say
however, you may recall...that not before long, Ororchi's sacrifices became too weak for him to gain any meaningful level of power from them anymore, and after only draining earth's energy once, he went back to slaughtering fodder sacrifices instead while pretending to obey Psykos.
and no, blast and god are not in the universe at this time, so don't even start with that
and don't bring up tatsumaki, that topic is way too scary for us Boners (Boros fans) and we aren't handling it here
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the DEFINITIVE boros statement, nothing else comes close.
Once again, the proposal of this post is to get a “possibly higher” indicating Boros scales toOrochi TATSUMAKI, most likely for the 2nd and last justification, although the 1st one could be listed on the durability section.
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Note 1: The special chapter in which saitama claims he defeats everyone with a normal punch is pre Boros, given that the monsters are there for the same reason as Kombu infinity, and he did use a killer move against Boros
Note 2: Given that it had been multiple years in the past that Orochi defeated Gouketsu and Ororchi says that the sacrifices became weak “before long” we can estimate that around a year before the Boros invasion, Orochi’s sacrifices were not significantly amping him in any way, and would have been even less of a factor in what is approximately a month or so between the Boros fight and Orochi fight with Saitama
Note 3: Tatsumaki is already accepted as having scaled to high 6-A before her high 6-A scaling feat took place both chronologically and in the meta sense, due to the existence of the high 6-A in-training saitama scaling
additionally, tatsumaki does not have any kind of accelerated development for her to go from 9 petatons to 5.68 exatons in less than 2 months, as she does not have the passive AD that comes with a broken limiter. Even with training it would be impossible, given that she would have reached a plateau similarly to orochi, given that there was literally nobody strong enough for her to train with.
Note 4: No, Boros being the strongest in the universe isn't flowery language. Unlike other cases like tatsumaki moving all of creation, there's no actual evidence that the statement is unreliable. Furthermore, it was stated THREE times, indicating a much stronger emphasis, so the statement is still valid to use, especially if only for a possibly or likely rating.
I'm going to go from the least strong to most strong point, starting with...
Edit: Points 1 and part of 2 are for the previous version of this crt which was to scale boros above orochi, but we have moved on to tatsumaki instead, so read point 3 and notes 3 and 4 below
1.
Okay, so saitama's not a very consistent source of scaling usually, however it is important to note that saitama does start battles with normal punches, and saves his serious ones for opponents that can't be beaten otherwise
more importantly, saitama was clearly a bit surprised by Boros still standing after being hit with that punch, which of course would make no sense if he just happened to throw out a weaker punch that day or something
even more importantly, meteoric burst boros later in the fight still takes another punch that was clearly stronger than the one from the start of the fight.
This alone doesn't prove much, I will admit, but it is a starting point. I think it's fair to bring up that Orochi is consistently being completely obliterated by the
In terms of author intent, pre redraw orochi fight makes it even more clear as saitama straight up tells orochi "that was a normal punch" that was able to one shot him, but as we all know, the fight was retconned for unrelated reasons (muh god plot)
2.
I know that "he called him strong" is a meme at this point, but this isn't my main argument really, however it is important to give credit where it is due, because saitama really REALLY sees boros as a powerhouse
"he was a hell of a tough guy, probably the toughest I've faced so far"
"now this looks more like a real fight"
"yeah, you are strong"
and he lies about it being a good battle for both of them, but it does show that he gave enough of a **** about Boros to do so
More importantly, he sees Orochi as weak, which is the most damning part about this. In the scans given, you can see that Saitama didn't even know orochi was the monster king, and assumed that "monster king orochi" was the name of Ororchi's dad, while he thought the actual orochi was just "the bath monster"
further supported by the fact that Gaia Cannon was seen by saitama as being "splashing in the tub" which is not only insanely disrespectful, but clearly shows a significant level of being unimpressed by Orochi's full power final attack, vs boros who he was already calling strong before he even used meteoric burst.
as for how this would look
"At least high 6-A ([current justification]) possibly far higher (was considered to be strong, tough, and almost a real fight by saitama, while he considered Gaia cannon to be nothing but splashing in a tub"
sound familiar? Of course, that is the exact same logic we use for flashy flash's scaling above geryuganshoop's speed, except even stronger because we have not one, but TWO statements showing saitama most likely thinks Orochi was a weakling. Additionally, there are not one, but FOUR TO FIVE statements of saitama literally ********** the hell out of boros for him being strong.
3. The good shit
this one speaks for itself. Boros....was the strongest in the universe next to saitama, and their fight would determine who was the true strongest
"but Orochi was still eating sacrifices and got stronger" I hear you say
however, you may recall...that not before long, Ororchi's sacrifices became too weak for him to gain any meaningful level of power from them anymore, and after only draining earth's energy once, he went back to slaughtering fodder sacrifices instead while pretending to obey Psykos.
and no, blast and god are not in the universe at this time, so don't even start with that
and do
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the DEFINITIVE boros statement, nothing else comes close.
Once again, the proposal of this post is to get a “possibly higher” indicating Boros scales to
This post is brought to you by Nord VPN.
Note 2: Given that it had been multiple years in the past that Orochi defeated Gouketsu and Ororchi says that the sacrifices became weak “before long” we can estimate that around a year before the Boros invasion, Orochi’s sacrifices were not significantly amping him in any way, and would have been even less of a factor in what is approximately a month or so between the Boros fight and Orochi fight with Saitama
Note 3: Tatsumaki is already accepted as having scaled to high 6-A before her high 6-A scaling feat took place both chronologically and in the meta sense, due to the existence of the high 6-A in-training saitama scaling
additionally, tatsumaki does not have any kind of accelerated development for her to go from 9 petatons to 5.68 exatons in less than 2 months, as she does not have the passive AD that comes with a broken limiter. Even with training it would be impossible, given that she would have reached a plateau similarly to orochi, given that there was literally nobody strong enough for her to train with.
Note 4: No, Boros being the strongest in the universe isn't flowery language. Unlike other cases like tatsumaki moving all of creation, there's no actual evidence that the statement is unreliable. Furthermore, it was stated THREE times, indicating a much stronger emphasis, so the statement is still valid to use, especially if only for a possibly or likely rating.
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