half 2-C is against the standards and should be eliminated

[Sir_Marvulous]

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This needs to be updated

 

[Omegabronic]

vegeta(dbs anime)
gogeta(dbs)
son goku(dbs anime)
Broly(dbs)

i need these pages unlocked to apply the changes

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

vegeta(dbs anime)
gogeta(dbs)
son goku(dbs anime)
Broly(dbs)

i need these pages unlocked to apply the changes

I would say we have enough staff input to make the changes

Tbh, I think we've had more than enough staff input, especially for something that was always against site standards to begin with.

I’ve deleted the most recent derailing posts. If y’all want to debate about Dragon Ball scaling, take it to your message walls or DMs.

 

[Ss3micah]

vegeta(dbs anime)
gogeta(dbs)
son goku(dbs anime)
Broly(dbs)

i need these pages unlocked to apply the changes

Would Gohan Beast, Orange Piccolo, Gamma 2 and Cell Max also factor here or not
Just curious

 

[Omegabronic]

Would Gohan Beast, Orange Piccolo, Gamma 2 and Cell Max also factor here or not
Just curious

like i said, i am not very knolodgeble on anything after the tournament of power and the broly movie, someone would need to look on their case

 

[TiltedFN]

yes, im making a thread also

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Would Gohan Beast, Orange Piccolo, Gamma 2 and Cell Max also factor here or not
Just curious

Yes

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

So just to be clear, this thread simply eliminates the concept of At Least Low 2-C, but doesn't eliminate Low 2-C in general?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I agree with the proposals in this thread.

 

[Omegabronic]

So just to be clear, this thread simply eliminates the concept of At Least Low 2-C, but doesn't eliminate Low 2-C in general?

it eliminates downscaling from 2-C to low 2-C

 

[Planck69]

It doesn't need that much of a hassle. Any character that currently scales to the half 2-C should be made "At most 2-C". The justifications and scaling remain the same.

 

[TiltedFN]

It may be more complicated then that, jiren from his first battle with goku while heavily suppressed was stated to be beyond the gods, so more people could actually scale, not just the "at least low 2-C" characters. Because they can upscale from ui omen 1 goku and heavily suppressed jiren.

 

[Planck69]

It may be more complicated then that, jiren from his first battle with goku while heavily suppressed was stated to be beyond the gods, so more people could actually scale, not just the "at least low 2-C" characters. Because they can upscale from ui omen 1 goku and heavily suppressed jiren.

We do not have that Jiren scale to the GoDs at all on the site.

 

[TiltedFN]

We do not have that Jiren scale to the GoDs at all on the site.

Was it contradicted or something?

 

[LordTracer]

Was it contradicted or something?

It doesn’t matter for this thread. That would require a separate Dragon Ball thread, this one is just for changing characters that are “At least Low 2-C“ to “At most 2-C”.

 

[Reiner04]

Will it be Atleast low 2-C, Atmost 2-C
or just straight up Atmost 2-C ?

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

I think it’s just At most 2-C but I would prefer Atleast Low 2-C, At Most 2-C

 

[Omegabronic]

Will it be Atleast low 2-C, Atmost 2-C
or just straight up Atmost 2-C ?

At most 2-C

 

[Reiner04]

Hmm seems aight. Mostly I am wondering about how these characters gonna play in vs matches after this but I guess it doesn't matter that much.

 

[Planck69]

Will it be Atleast low 2-C, Atmost 2-C
or just straight up Atmost 2-C ?

Just "At most 2-C".

 

[Planck69]

Hmm seems aight. Mostly I am wondering about how these characters gonna play in vs matches after this but I guess it doesn't matter that much.

They're just gonna be treated as downscaling from baseline.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Bump

 

[TiltedFN]

Are all the changes out? And if so, mind @ing i have a thread up on all the characters that would scale if you wanna check it out since its not getting much attention.

 

[ImmortalDread]

@Planck69, using the term “half {tier}” in those character profiles violates our standards for tiering system. Our formatting standards do not recognize "half" or even "quarter" tiers as valid. Therefore, it is recommended to change the classification to “unknown” and create separate threads for controversial characters.

 

[Omegabronic]

Are all the changes out? And if so, mind @ing i have a thread up on all the characters that would scale if you wanna check it out since its not getting much attention.

Still waiting for the profiles requested to be open

 

[ImmortalDread]

Still waiting for the profiles requested to be open

They are only changed to “unknown”, they need a separate thread for their own discussion

 

[Omegabronic]

They are only changed to “unknown”, they need a separate thread for their own discussion

Not really, the proposal was "at most 2-C" and it was agreed, if you wish to make a thread for them, then go on

 

[ImmortalDread]

Not really, the proposal was "at most 2-C" and it was agreed, if you wish to make a thread for them, then go on

Although I do not advocate for the creation of a thread, it's crucial to acknowledge that the impact of the thread on each character is unique and individualistic, therefore it would be imprudent to generalize and disregard their specific context.

 

[Omegabronic]

Although I do not advocate for the creation of a thread, it's crucial to acknowledge that the impact of the thread on each character is unique and individualistic, therefore it would be imprudent to generalize and disregard their specific context.

In the db cases, they are all the same, and in the eggsalamander case, it is also considerated the same

 

[ImmortalDread]

Alright, then.

 

[Planck69]

They are only changed to “unknown”, they need a separate thread for their own discussion

"At most 2-C" was agreed upon here. There's only 2-3 series that this concerns anyway, whom have the same case, so I don't know why you're treating this as some sort of complex site wide revision.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Alright, then.

"At most 2-C" was agreed upon here. There's only 2-3 series that this concerns anyway, whom have the same case, so I don't know why you're treating this as some sort of complex site wide revision.

Did I not concede on this? Or what are you trying to do...?

 

[Planck69]

Did I not concede on this? Or what are you trying to do...?

Ah, didn't see that post.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I thought you were trying to be dismissive to me, lol.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Bump

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Bump

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Bump.

 

[KLOL506]

Why'd you bump an already-concluded thread? Half 2-C is dead and buried.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Why'd you bump an already-concluded thread? Half 2-C is dead and buried.

I didn't realize that, but if it's concluded, get someone to lock this.

 

[Lonkitt]

Locking powers activated