half 2-C is against the standards and should be eliminated

[StekFence]

So… below baseline 2-c angels when?

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

I’m not denying whis is stronger than beerus, I’m just saying this feat might not be the best for showing it if I’m right. Idk, maybe I’m wrong

It’s not a durability neg feat in any way it’s a simple neck chop you made up some random shit if he was too weak Beerus would’ve tanked it

So… below baseline 2-c angels when?

Never

 

[StekFence]

hey I didn’t make up anything, I used like, 2 minutes worth of googling how neck chops works. It’s tough work.
And again, obviously whis can harm beerus, which is all that’s needed for a neck chop to work like that(according to my understanding of it), along with skill of course. That is congruent with him being vaguely stronger or him being stronger then beerus and champa combined

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

hey I didn’t make up anything, I used like, 2 minutes worth of googling how neck chops works. It’s tough work.
And again, obviously whis can harm beerus, which is all that’s needed for a neck chop to work like that(according to my understanding of it), along with skill of course. That is congruent with him being vaguely stronger or him being stronger then beerus and champa combined

You said it was a durability negation so would a character like Goku knock out Beerus with a neck chop?

 

[StekFence]

I meant something more like what hit does, which is dura neg on the site last I checked.
edit:ah it’s limited

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

I meant something more like what hit does, which is dura neg on the site last I checked.
edit:ah it’s limited

Hits durability negation attacks the organs https://imgur.io/a/uxS83iZ

 

[StekFence]

right. My point being, whis karate chopping beerus only shows Whis can damage beerus, not that whis is vastly stronger, because such an action abuses humanoid biology to induce its effects. Therefore, change his justification.

 

[omegabronic]

It’s not a durability neg feat in any way it’s a simple neck chop you made up some random shit if he was too weak Beerus would’ve tanked it

Never

What is the evidence for angels = 2x GoD?

 

[LordTracer]

What is the evidence for angels = 2x GoD?

This seems like a topic that should be discussed in another thread instead of derailing this one.

 

[pineappleman]

I’m assuming the profile refers to when Whis chopped beerus on the neck, instantly koing him. However, a neck chop works by manipulating blood flow to induce unconsciousness, so it’s kinda dura neg. Now that I think of it, is it really a good feat? All it shows is whis is strong enough to push beerus’ neck around.

come on dog. that's like saying a punch to the face/head is dura neg since it only rattles your brain to knock you out

 

[omegabronic]

This seems like a topic that should be discussed in another thread instead of derailing this one.

You are correct, my bad

 

[LordTracer]

I’ve deleted the most recent derailing posts. If y’all want to debate about Dragon Ball scaling, take it to your message walls or DMs.

 

[Lonkitt]

Any finite division of 2-C would still be 2-C so I'm in favour of omitting "half 2-C" as being Low 2-C

 

[TiltedFN]

I agree with the changes FRA, is this thread still being discussed? Or are we waiting for something else?

 

[Quantu]

I think we are waiting for more staff input.

 

[Planck69]

Tbh, I think we've had more than enough staff input, especially for something that was always against site standards to begin with.

 

[TiltedFN]

I think so too, don't we pretty much have more staff in agreement than in neutral? Imo I think we should make the changes, don't want this thread getting ignored.

 

[Gasper]

Not equally infinite according to set theory on which the entire tiering system is based upon.

And db is not using set theory

 

[omegabronic]

is this okay to be applied?

 

[Reiner04]

is this okay to be applied?

I disagree then how can you? (Jk)

 

[DivineAura44]

Lots of moderators have agreed with the thread with 0 disagreement, seems accepted. However it'd still take an extra thread each to upgrade the Sonic and Dragon Ball characters I think.

 

[ShakeResounding]

However it'd still take an extra thread each to upgrade the Sonic and Dragon Ball characters I think.

In Sonic's case, it really just affects one character in terms of Tiering (Egg Salamander). Which, if this is really approved, I can edit later today. There may be some others that mention it as extra qualification for their Low 2-C rating (like Tails), but I can handle that as well if need be.

 

[TiltedFN]

This affects many dragon ball characters also, like all the gods, obvious ones like goku, vegeta, jiren, etc. But i guess this can be debated in another thread if you dont want to tackle it here, even tho this change does only apply to dragon ball and sonic.

 

[Lonkitt]

In Sonic's case, it really just affects one character in terms of Tiering (Egg Salamander). Which, if this is really approved, I can edit later today. There may be some others that mention it as extra qualification for their Low 2-C rating (like Tails), but I can handle that as well if need be.

TBH I’d argue the change is more consistent for our Sonic ratings at the end of the day

 

[omegabronic]

So, do we have enough input for this to be applied or should we wait for more staff?

 

[Lonkitt]

I would say we have enough staff input to make the changes

 

[ImmortalDread]

I'm unsure if there is much more to discuss, but it seems that this tier should not be present as it is not included in the established standards or tiering system.

 

[Quantu]

I'm unsure if there is much more to discuss, but it seems that this tier should not be present as it is not included in the established standards or tiering system.

? You agree right

 

[ImmortalDread]

? You agree right

I do, half 2-C should not even br allowed because there is no "half" in tiering system standards to begin with.

 

[TiltedFN]

Are we gonna discuss who gets 2-C in this thread or separate?

 

[Quantu]

Are we gonna discuss who gets 2-C in this thread or separate?

There's only like, 2 profiles from Sonic.

For Anime Dragon Ball Super, we have all the G.o.D's, Goku, Jiren, Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan, Gamma suicide attacks, Cell Max, Broly, Gogeta

 

[omegabronic]

Are we gonna discuss who gets 2-C in this thread or separate?

separated, for now all people who are "at least low 2-C" for being hallf 2-C will become "at most 2-C"

I would say we have enough staff input to make the changes

good, altho pages like goku as vegeta for they "dbs super heroes" key would need someone else to make the changes since i am not familiar with dbs after the tournament of power

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Há apenas 2 perfis do Sonic.

Para Anime Dragon Ball Super, temos todos os GoD's, Goku, Jiren, Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan, ataques suicidas Gamma, Cell Max, Broly, Gogeta

Infinite Zamasu wouldn't scale with Goku and Beerus' feat?

 

[omegabronic]

Infinite Zamasu wouldn't scale with Goku and Beerus' feat?

no, also do not start arguing who scales or not, this thread is not for but for just to fix something that is against our standards

 

[omegabronic]

In Sonic's case, it really just affects one character in terms of Tiering (Egg Salamander). Which, if this is really approved, I can edit later today. There may be some others that mention it as extra qualification for their Low 2-C rating (like Tails), but I can handle that as well if need be.

thing was accepted, you can can change the pages now, i will let sonic with you

I would say we have enough staff input to make the changes

i am going to start to handle the god of destruction

 

[TiltedFN]

After you're done with that can we get a thread arguing for who scales in TOP? Ive never made one before since im new lol

 

[omegabronic]

After you're done with that can we get a thread arguing for who scales in TOP? Ive never made one before since im new lol

if you have a proposal you can make a thread later

 

[TiltedFN]

Infinite Zamasu wouldn't scale with Goku and Beerus' feat?

Do you have discord? i could help you with a thread if youd like

 

[ShakeResounding]

Aaaand edited Egg Salamander, I'll do some snooping and remove it from Low 2-C justifications of other Sonic characters when I get the chance.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

After you're done with that can we get a thread arguing for who scales in TOP? Ive never made one before since im new lol

Only those who are currently still rated as 'At least Low 2-C'